Posted by simrud:

This actually shows how much Nash matters.

Meaning, he is the major reason behind that 30+ win record, not Amare or whoever. Once again proving he is 100 times the player Marbyr was, is, or ever will be.

Why do we alays get stuck with loosers.

Posted by Vmart:

Posted by simrud:

No, the problem is Marbury can't play .500 ball.

And Mohammed is capable of cathing alleys, he is athletic, and has cought alleys before. Marbury just does not know how to lob a pass.

Or bouncepass, or not throw a frakin bullet. Or play defense.

The point is Nash has a lot more impact then Marbury does because he runs the team a lot better. You put Nash on this team and I bet we would be a few games over .500 right now and finish the season with a solid 45 win record.

I 100% agree with you. Players like to play with a pass first pg rather than a score first pg. Marbury has assist but his assists are from dominating the ball for 40 minutes. Just look at how many assist he gets from playing the pick and roll with KT. he gets 3 a game. But how many time does he run a break and dish out an assist. How many time does he throw an alley oop, how many time does he tread the needle and hit a open man cutting to the hoop. I like Marbury but he is a SG caught in a PG body and teams that trade him realize that there is life after marbury. If the right deal comes along like say Artest and tinsley for Marbury make the trade becasue the KNicks would improve team play and defensively.

Posted by Solace:

I'm not necessarily saying that the entire blame for that lies strictly on Marbury, but sometimes you have to take a step back to have the room to move forward. The thing is that it's very difficult to build a championship team around a point guard. You usually build championship teams around a star big man (6'11"+). Marbury's a nice piece; but I just don't see how we're ever going to add that big man, unless fans are patient enough to let every player go in the year that H20 and Shandon expire, except for Nazr, Ariza, Sweetney, Crawford, Marbury. Then, we'd have the money to sign LeBron (in which case Nazr and Sweetney is enough to get by) or any star big man who is a free agent. Otherwise, how do we get there? Marbury for a group of young big men would be a nice way to go. We are starting to get younger, but I think we have a huge problem, seeing as how our mobility to move forward in the frontcourt is severely limited, unless we're planning on getting lucky in the draft. I guess the main thing for me is that I'm very confused as to what Isiah has planned next. We missed out on a volley of big men this offseason and now I don't know what is left that's actually attainable.