please. i like him. i can't believe how AWESOME he's playing but for djsunyc's sake, when you have a center that puts up 20 & 10, and other big # games, and still LOSE, you can see his overall impact. i like him, i really do, but he's our BEST moveable asset right now and this is a pure business move - trade while his value is the highest. it may get a little higher within the next month IF he makes the allstar team but let's make a deal.

Nazr + Moochie for Ollie + Mckie + Dalembert

ok, my rant is over.

your preaching to the choir, but if we just stay status quo his value is actually higher this offseason when he's viewed as a 14/10 (projected) starting center in his walk year with a very modest contract. I would LOVE to do that trade but waiting on trading NAzr wont hurt us.

in that case trade Steph, KT, Craw and Houston.....trade them all cuz if you play and get numbers yet still lose then obviously they need to go.

I see no one touched my Nazr thread about him being an all-star.....Ben, Big Z and Shaq are the only centers putting up comparable or better numbers than Nazr.

Knicks need to get better at the 3 and 4 and then the Knicks will be right there.

Posted by EnySpree:

in that case trade Steph, KT, Craw and Houston.....trade them all cuz if you play and get numbers yet still lose then obviously they need to go.

I see no one touched my Nazr thread about him being an all-star.....Ben, Big Z and Shaq are the only centers putting up comparable or better numbers than Nazr.

Knicks need to get better at the 3 and 4 and then the Knicks will be right there.

KT - sure
houston - sure, where do i sign?

crawford and marbury - nope. crawford is 24 and on the upswing of his career. this is the type of player your TRADE FOR. and coaches draw up game plans for marbury so he makes an impact. and he's the best PG in the league. it's true, he said so himself.

nazr could be an allstar in a weak frontcourt conference. he still makes no impact. if you look at a box score and see you're starting center drop 20 & 10 or even 15 & 10, you would expect that team to win, right? but that's not the case here. like i said, i like nazr, and he's come A LONG WAY but he's not the answer unless you don't mind being a 40-45 win team year after year. secondly, do you think we have chips to land a top tier 4? if so, who? kurt? are you ready to give up on sweets? you get me a KG, then sure, let's keep nazr. but KG's aren't readily available. but a bunch of young centers that DEFEND and can still average double doubles are and we'll need to part with nazr to get them.

whats wrong with getting a starting centre and keeping nazr to play the pf spot?

wouldnt it be nice to have a 7' centre and a 6'10" pf who can put up 20 and 10?

he scored 12 points in 42 minutes on us. he only grabbed 7 rebounds.

nazr's defence isnt that bad. its not great but its not bad. plus if we have a shotblocking 7' centre the whole team D improves.

if we could get ourselves a legit C by trading KT, i'd be more in favor of that...but if we need to trade Nazr to get ourselves a potential future franchise bigman who has yet to realize his potential, then you have to make that trade.

how about we don't trade anybody until the summer unless it's shaq or webber and we get them for peanuts?

Are the sixers winning with dalembert? I hadn't checked recently. How about the clippers? How eare they doing with those two studs that we covet so much? Or Chitown with their two 'monsters' we could use.

Oh, what about the studs on the winning teams...oh, i forget, if you are winning, why would you trade your studs?

Where is that goose that lays the golden eggs, I want to cut it's throat.

In our case the eggs are silver, but come on fellas...with crawford out (25 a game) and sweets injured, we still had the same number of players in double figures as the Kings (6) three had 20 points (h20, nazr and marbs), nazr had a double double and kurt and tt combined for 15 boards.

The kings played with this same roster the last several years (upgrading divac with Miler) and showed it...our full team has been together what, 3 games?

when craw returns after the all star break, we will make a run!

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Posted by turtle33:

he scored 12 points in 42 minutes on us. he only grabbed 7 rebounds.

nazr's defence isnt that bad. its not great but its not bad. plus if we have a shotblocking 7' centre the whole team D improves.

No offense but you gotta spell it center. The only decent 7' Canadian center was Wennington and that was only because Louie schooled him and MJ set him up.

magloire is a good canadian centRE. but ya thats aboot it fer canadian centre's eh.

but ya, i agree with tms and most on this board.........if you have a chance for a legit centER you get him. no matter who you trade (except for marbs). anyone else i feel is replacable, even sweets, ariza, crawford, nazr, anyone but steph.

... I don't think anyone can complain about Nazr Mohammed. He's outperformed expectations by anyone's standards. For those who want to trade him while his stock is high... two things. 1) I think he's going to continue to get better and 2) good cetners (as we all know) don't grow on trees. Some of the players mentiones of late are just not the answer... if Isiah trades him, it better be for the right guy.

This talk really must stop. I guess using this popular logic of "points wiht no impact", KG's 47 and 13 were of no impact because they lost. Vince's 33 also had no impact because they lost. This is scapegoating at its finest. Nazr is not the reason we lost. Nazr is a big part of the reason we were in it in the first place. They only time big points and rebounds have no impacts is in a blowout loss. We were in this game up until the final seconds.

It is nothing short of unbelievable that on a night when KT had 4 points, and Nazr drops 22,11,2 blocks on 8 for 13 shooting Nazr gets the blame.

TT had 11 on 5 of 13 shooting. With the same 13 shots Nazr doubled TT's points by getting fouled and getting to the line going 6 for 7. That IS having an impact!!

We lost the game because we came out flat and played poor defense early and got into a big hole. Steph helped bring us back, but we lacked the firepower to keep the lead. We missed J. Craw last night and the night before. He could have been the difference maker for us. Nazr should keep doing what he is doing, and you all should be happy to have a top 10 center in the league(actually 6th on most power rankings). If we had just a decent post up PF like Maurice Taylor or Juwan Howard (both of whom have wilted under JVG and are available) and SF like Jim Jackson, we would be a better team.

Against the Nets KT had 6 points!!!
Last night KT had 4 points!!!

So you all trashing Nazr and blaming him for not having an impact, have no point.