Suppossedly VC and Rose headed to Memphis for Swift, Wells and WHITE CHOCOLATE(crowd pleaser).

If it doesn't involves NY, Im happy with it.

We're in December. He can be traded now

Posted by Clean:

Actually he can't. He signed a qualifying offer meaning he can't be traded and he will be an unrestricted free agent next off season.

[Edited by - Clean on 12/17/2004 09:09:50]

could be so, but I have never heard taht rule.

This from the Peter Vescey article: "On the other hand, look for Memphis to make some noise before this is over. The Grizzlies have an excess of talented bodies to swap. Both Bonzi Wells and Stromile Swift are rising unrestricted and Jason Williams could join them with either Mo Peterson or Donyell Marshall (no Rose) accompanying Carter."

any rumor of him NOT coming here is a good rumor. Players in a qualifying offer year cannot be traded. Same situation with Olowakandi a couple years ago with the Clippers.

how about New Jersey trades: Kidd/Zo

Toronto trades: Carter/Alston/Rose or Marshall

Aside from whether or not Swift can be traded, that proposed deal for VC is better than anything we can put together... unless we include Crawford.

this is the kind of rip off isiah should be making for us.

why would toronto do this terrible deal

Best thing I read all day:

Knick sources now believe Vince Carter will be traded elsewhere. Last week after the medical history of the four players involved (Carter, Jalen Rose, Penny Hardaway and Tim Thomas) was exchanged negotiations broke down, perhaps for good. The Raptors demanded somewhat different (as in upgraded) talent, as well as excessive cap relief.



That's not going to happen. The Knicks will give talent or cap relief, but they won't give the Raptors (or any other team) both. Believe Isiah Thomas when he maintains Marbury, Crawford and Allan Houston will not be traded, that he likes all three. It's a moot issue, yet some members of the media continue to belabor it.

Raptor sources substantiate that declaration. Those same people also deny reports Nazr Mohammed ever came up in trade talks. Makes sense to me; he's the Knicks' only legitimate fortification in the middle. The Raptors, meanwhile, don't even have one real center so it's not as if they have anyone to give the Knicks in return. The truth is, Mohammed's name hasn't been mentioned by the Knicks since they tried to get Erick Dampier from the Warriors in a sign-and-trade arrangement.

[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 12/17/2004 14:59:15]

And now the Knicks and the Nets have a real rivalry.

Our three big guns? I didn't know we had three big guns... but N.J. certainly does.