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2/26/2026  9:47 AM
We’re running out of runway folks. This team has no identity and leadership is questionable. Our coach is still experimenting with rotations looking for answers with 75% of the seasons games played.

Both our offense and defense have looked good for stretches but we have not found any consistency. Our effort at times is questionable and the coach still hasn’t been able to implement his system fully. This is a veteran team for the most part. I expected more.

We are in the home stretch and this team is crashing and burning when tested. I’m not feeling confident they figure this out by the time the playoffs begin. We have the most talent we’ve had in this century but the cohesion and effort just haven’t been there especially from our highest paid players.

I can’t believe I’m already looking forward to the offseason. Gianis would be a great get. Besides being a great player with a competitive fire he is a true leader

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2/26/2026  10:15 AM
Not for nothing, but isn't this exactly what Knicks fans wanted Thibs to do last season?

Tinker with the lineup, put in young guys every once in a while to see what they got? All at the expense of wins and/or consistency of the same old thing?

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2/26/2026  10:16 AM
Saying the same things I think

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7069677/2026/02/25/knicks-lose-cavs-lets-get-to-playoffs/?source=emp_shared_article

Enough of these regular-season Knicks — let’s just get to the playoffs
James L. Edwards III


CLEVELAND — If I told you the New York Knicks were 12-4 over their last 16 games, would you believe me? What if I said that before Tuesday, they had the best net rating in basketball over that time? Would you believe that?

Both are true. I promise. However, the fact that those questions even exist is exactly what is so frustrating about the Knicks. Even literal facts still feel somewhat unbelievable because of how New York has ended up where it is.

New York is a good basketball team. The 37-22 record doesn’t lie. Yet, it’s a team that can look like a world beater one quarter and a bottom-feeder the next. It’s a team that can go 2-9 over an 11-game stretch, then 12-4 over a 16-game span. It’s a team that can lose to Sacramento, Indiana and Dallas, then beat San Antonio, Denver and Boston. It can be down 18 points at home to the Houston Rockets and then come back to win. It can lose three games to the Detroit Pistons by a combined 84 points. It can barely beat the terriBulls on Sunday, then get spanked by the Cleveland Cavaliers, as it did in Tuesday’s 109-94 defeat.

The Knicks carry multiple personalities, making it impossible to label them one thing or another.

And yet, maybe the answer is sitting right there out in the open. New York might just be an imperfect team with enough resiliency to get out of jams here and there. We’re 75 percent through the season, so that is a safe assumption.

At this point, let’s just get to the playoffs so that we all can have a definitive answer. New York was always going to be judged by what happens in the postseason. Let’s get the regular season over with and find out how good the Knicks really are. I’m sure you’re tired of this roller coaster.

New York, though, isn’t ready to walk with the same urgency.

“I think we’re still trying to figure it out,” Josh Hart said. “I think we’re still figuring out the style we want to play, the identity we want to play. I think that is where some of those lulls come from. We have to, collectively, figure that out.

“Time is of the essence. We have to really spend the next 20 or so games really finding our identity and how we want to execute.”

The Knicks are in the midst of their first season with a new coach, Mike Brown, a change they didn’t need to make after going to the Eastern Conference finals last season. Yet, the franchise’s suits thought change was needed. They wanted more diversity in the offense, more collaboration and opportunities for more players besides of the top-dollar names.

Brown wanted to bring with him an offense that played faster. He wanted his team to touch the paint and generate open 3s. He wanted less predictability. Defensively, Brown wanted his team to funnel offenses to the middle.

The season up to this point has been full of trial and error, resulting in the Knicks being a team without an identity. They still aren’t playing fast, largely because of the personnel, even though they’re trying to pick up the pace. The offense does generate 3s and usually hits them at a good clip, but on nights like Tuesday, when the shots aren’t falling, there isn’t always a backup plan thanks to the defense’s unevenness. That includes a shift in principles, from pushing opposing offenses toward the middle to pushing them to the sidelines and baseline.

Naturally, things are going to look funky when new ideas are being implemented and tried out. That’s part of the learning process. Still, though, the Knicks are almost a month out from the playoffs, where their owner publicly said they should get to the NBA Finals, and still searching.

Sure, the players might think they know what the best version of New York looks like. But does it matter if they can’t consistently achieve it?

“For us, it’s about the consistency,” Karl-Anthony Towns said. “When you play a seven-game series, you have to win four of those seven. You have to consistently be good. Sometimes you’re great, but the other team is just better that night, and you have to accept those results. You go into a series thinking you need to win five of seven. We just have to be the best version of ourselves come playoff time. Right now, we’re all trying to figure it out. We’re still trying to figure out the system, the new things we’re doing, the nuances that go with it and the changes we’re trying to make. It’s still a work in progress.

“I know, being in New York, everyone wants a finished product right now. People want instant gratification, but we’re still trying to figure out a lot.”

New York spent the first four months of the season trying to get the Karl-Anthony Towns of its last three games before Tuesday’s loss. The All-Star talent was hitting 3s. He was finishing. He was making quick reads. Towns dusted off all of his greatest hits over that stretch.

Against Cleveland, it looked like Towns was on his way to another banner night after he went 4-for-4 from the field with 11 points before halftime. In the second half, Towns attempted just one shot.

The Cavaliers deserve credit for their defense throwing bodies at Towns and mucking up the Knicks’ offense. But this is where the Knicks’ free-flowing style can be a detriment. Brown has acknowledged the team doesn’t often call a lot of plays and instead performs a read-and-react system based on principles and concepts. That makes it more likely that the ball bounces around to different hands instead of into the ones that are sizzling.

New York has one too many questions. It has soul-searching to do. It has little time to do it all.

That’s why I wish we could just fast-forward to the playoffs, just to finally get an answer that we can latch on to.

“I know how good we can be,” Jalen Brunson said.

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2/26/2026  10:41 AM
martin wrote:Saying the same things I think

That’s very interesting that the players are actually saying what I think I’m seeing. Thanks for posting that

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2/26/2026  11:12 AM
martin wrote:Not for nothing, but isn't this exactly what Knicks fans wanted Thibs to do last season?

Tinker with the lineup, put in young guys every once in a while to see what they got? All at the expense of wins and/or consistency of the same old thing?

I definitely wasn’t one who wanted tinkering with young guys getting random minutes. I think most of us wanted a few young players to actually have a defined role and regular minutes to help develop them at the nba level.

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2/26/2026  11:19 AM
After reading the players comments on Browns system I’m having flashbacks to when we were trying to run the triangle offense which is also a read and react system. Sounds like the players would prefer running plays….you know….run to the Buick and then cut left
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2/26/2026  12:25 PM
Fred is kinda saying the same things

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7071444/2026/02/26/knicks-inconsistency-towns-brunson-bridges-anunoby-nba/?source=emp_shared_article

The only thing consistent about the Knicks lately has been their inconsistency
Fred Katz


A formerly familiar friend returned to the New York Knicks just before the All-Star break.

With the team already mashing the Philadelphia 76ers, Jose Alvarado raced down the court. He dribbled into traffic and pitched the ball back to Josh Hart, who recognized the man behind him.

All five Philly defenders had retreated, but Karl-Anthony Towns was about to cross half court. And that meant there would be space for one of the league’s sweetest-shooting big men. Hart underhanded the ball back to Towns. The six-time All-Star released a jumper from as close to the Sixers’ logo as he was to the 3-point arc. Naturally, it swished through the net.

Two games later, a facsimile materialized. Hart zipped upcourt, then pitched an identical toss to Towns. The big man rose from the same spot. Cash, again.

Those trailer 3s in transition tend to go well for Towns. And for much of the season, they came often, an asset inside an offense that has insisted it wants to move faster but has slowed some since October. But until that moment, the one when Towns sank a seemingly unimportant bucket during what turned into a 49-point decimation of the 76ers, those types of shots had evaporated.

The trailer 3-point attempt in Philadelphia was Towns’ first in more than two weeks, a symbol of both what can be so enticing and also so confounding about the Knicks. This team is capable of beauty, such as during the destruction of the Sixers. Or during the second game after the All-Star break, when it roared back from an 18-point, fourth-quarter deficit to topple the Houston Rockets. And then it is also capable of collapses, such as the three against the first-place Detroit Pistons or the most recent hiccup, a deflating defeat to the Cleveland Cavaliers, who are now tied with New York in the standings.

The Knicks are inconsistent in their results, as The Athletic’s James Edwards chronicled after the loss to the Cavs. But behind the hot-and-cold production is an on-and-off process.

Sometimes, Hart finds Towns in transition. And sometimes, after receiving a pass, Towns acts with purpose, hoisting a shot in an instant. But sometimes, the Knicks forget that Towns exists. Or Towns doesn’t look at the hoop, despite touch so soft he is incapable of taking a bad catch-and-shoot 3.

Sometimes, Towns catches fire not just in a scoring fashion but also in a decision-making one. During the fourth-quarter comeback against the Rockets, his movements were quick. He cut with gusto on an inbounds, then dunked on Jabari Smith Jr. He caught a pass in the corner as he stepped behind the arc and popped a jumper. He spun into the post and finished a hook shot deep in the paint. He fired an over-the-head dime to OG Anunoby for a dunk.

And sometimes, Towns shoots only four times during the first half, as he did against the Cavaliers, and then attempts one more field goal for the rest of the game.

In moments, it’s because of Towns. For example, during the first half of the Pistons game, not one time did Towns pop to the 3-point arc after setting a ball-screen for Jalen Brunson. But he wasn’t rushing to the paint, either. The plays looked less like pick-and-rolls and more like pick-and-strolls, ones where he would meander into spots that weren’t ideal for getting him the basketball.

Every on-court movement should have purpose, to get yourself or someone else open. Lingering in the middle of the court doesn’t help with that. It’s why Towns took only three shots over the first two quarters of that loss. And it’s why he made an obvious effort to adjust at halftime.

On the first possession of the third quarter against Detroit, he popped to the 3-point arc with oomph. A minute later, he and Hart laid picks on either side of Brunson. Hart dove to the basket. Towns retreated to the wing on the opposite side of the court. And Brunson found him for a four-point play.

The Knicks are capable of exquisite basketball. For whatever reason, they get away from it, too. And that’s when results zigzag.

But while Towns’ situation — considering his star status and various comments about trying to ease into a role under new head coach Mike Brown — might be the most interesting talking point, he isn’t the only person contributing to the Knicks’ up-and-down behavior.

This is an organization with aspirations of playing into June. And to last so long, the rest of the core has to iron out its wrinkles.

There is Brunson, who needs more consistency on defense. His quality on that end cratered for the first half of this season, though it’s been more encouraging for the past few weeks. Especially for the first 40 or so games, he was one of the Knicks’ worst off-ball culprits, one reason why the team’s 3-point defense has been vulnerable.

There is Mikal Bridges, who needs consistency in sheer presence. Bridges’ form of poor play is less in your face and more in his ghosting. He’ll vanish for extended portions of a game, whether because he stops disrupting drives and passing lanes or veers so far from contact that he removes himself from the plot.

There is Anunoby, who needs consistency in his approach. For stretches this season, Anunoby could convince anyone he is a top-five defender. Then come the down periods, which often overlap with ones when he’s not hitting jumpers, when he doesn’t maintain the same verve. (Maybe on a related note, Anunoby’s jump shooting has never been so inconsistent, not just nightly but also from area to area. He’s shooting an impressive 42 percent on corner 3s but worse than 27 percent on looks from above the break.)

There is Robinson, who needs (maybe not now but by April) consistency in his nightly rim protection and pick-and-roll defense.

The Knicks have their backup center on a regimented resting plan, and because of that, people within the team don’t seem worried about the drop-off in Robinson’s defensive output thus far. He’s shown as recently as last spring’s playoffs that he has an on-switch. And considering his injury history, it’s not worth his throttling into regular-season drivers the way he would with playoff ones. Those people might be correct. Robinson deserves the benefit of the doubt. But there’s no question this group requires his best version to accomplish its goal — and it might need the best version of him to play next to Towns, a pairing that hasn’t been as common or as effective as anticipated.

There is Hart, who needs to consistently believe in his jump shot. Hart is nailing 40 percent of his 3-pointers this season, a fabulous progression, but too often it seems he’s the last person buying into himself. As long as he hesitates to shoot, even if he’s hitting a high percentage of 3s, defenses will continue to help off him. On some nights, he puts up shots like it’s no problem. On others, he misses a couple from the wing and then gets shy, which cramps spacing.

“I think we’re still figuring out the style we want to play, the identity we want to play,” Hart told reporters Tuesday, via Edwards.

It’s late in the season for quotes like these. And yet, during Brown’s first year in New York, some amount of inconsistency is baked into how the Knicks will operate.

Former coach Tom Thibodeau obsessed over routine, which his detractors argued led to inflexibility and his supporters insisted offered structure.

Brown is detail-oriented similarly, yet experimental in others, which leads to the opposite brand of a double-edged sword. Over the past couple of months, he’s attempted to simplify an offense more based on concepts than set plays, an effort to help Towns and others. Many of the lineups he’s using won’t be around in the postseason. During the Cavs game, he played Robinson, Mohamed Diawara and Jeremy Sochan together, as if he were trying to scrunch the court for Brunson.

Certainly, he’s considered schematic adjustments that he’s held back from trying. The Knicks never sent aggressive help at Detroit’s Cade Cunningham when the MVP candidate torched them last week. If it were a playoff game, they might have handled it differently.

They have spit out zone defense, which Brown typically doesn’t love, just to test it. The first time they used a zone this season was in a mid-November game against the Miami Heat.

Not during a practice. Not during a shootaround.

During a game.

The zone wasn’t pretty, but the Knicks won. And in the process, they gathered some data about a defensive strategy they haven’t deployed much.

Conversely, Thibodeau started rehearsing a zone during practices after the All-Star break last season. He didn’t love how the Knicks executed it, so he waited to implement it. Weeks later, the Knicks deployed the zone for one possession and allowed a basket. And they never ran zone again for the rest of the season.

That brings us back to Brown’s double-edged sword, an element any coach has.

The optimists will say inconsistency is a product of experimentation. The pessimists will declare that jostling players around makes it more difficult to get comfortable.

Both sides are correct. Execution is dependent on people. But now, the people in the Knicks’ locker room have to straighten themselves out, because winning three or four playoff series becomes a far more daunting task if you can’t stay consistent.

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2/26/2026  1:07 PM
martin wrote:Not for nothing, but isn't this exactly what Knicks fans wanted Thibs to do last season?

Tinker with the lineup, put in young guys every once in a while to see what they got? All at the expense of wins and/or consistency of the same old thing?

We wanted Thibs to use his bench more (esp playoffs) - he could have used Shamet, Precious and Kolek more to spell the tired starters. We are not struggling because Hukporti gets some burn here and there. We did go as far as we could with Thibs but he gave us an identity so many of us thought/hoped his replacement would also have one (of any kind) and to me it's still not clear what Brown's identity is or will be. Only thing Brown does that it better is he plays the bench enough to not overwear the starters.

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2/26/2026  1:25 PM
martin wrote:Not for nothing, but isn't this exactly what Knicks fans wanted Thibs to do last season?

Tinker with the lineup, put in young guys every once in a while to see what they got? All at the expense of wins and/or consistency of the same old thing?

Facts, comes down to the impact of this during the playoffs. With Thibs it was win every game possible during the regular season and then fans would say hey the team is burned out by the time the playoffs come. Now the team has clearly taken games off during the regular season. Will see if this translates to being fresher and able to go up extra gears in the playoffs.

IMO the team needs a starting caliber PF to push OG to SF which may not be possible this season. But would the team be able to even stay together like that after the offseason in order to get to that point?

Celtics failed for many years where it was said Brown and Tatum wouldn't be able to win big together. Then they made the right tweeks to become champions.

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2/26/2026  1:53 PM
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martin wrote:Not for nothing, but isn't this exactly what Knicks fans wanted Thibs to do last season?

Tinker with the lineup, put in young guys every once in a while to see what they got? All at the expense of wins and/or consistency of the same old thing?

Facts, comes down to the impact of this during the playoffs. With Thibs it was win every game possible during the regular season and then fans would say hey the team is burned out by the time the playoffs come. Now the team has clearly taken games off during the regular season. Will see if this translates to being fresher and able to go up extra gears in the playoffs.

IMO the team needs a starting caliber PF to push OG to SF which may not be possible this season. But would the team be able to even stay together like that after the offseason in order to get to that point?

Celtics failed for many years where it was said Brown and Tatum wouldn't be able to win big together. Then they made the right tweeks to become champions.

I would like to see a SL of:

C - Robinson
PF - Towns
SF - OG
SG - Shamet
PG - Brunson

Then you mix in a small ball line up off the bench

Alvarado, Bridges, Hart, Diawara and Deuce when he is healthy.

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2/26/2026  2:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2026  2:03 PM
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newyorknewyork wrote:
martin wrote:Not for nothing, but isn't this exactly what Knicks fans wanted Thibs to do last season?

Tinker with the lineup, put in young guys every once in a while to see what they got? All at the expense of wins and/or consistency of the same old thing?

Facts, comes down to the impact of this during the playoffs. With Thibs it was win every game possible during the regular season and then fans would say hey the team is burned out by the time the playoffs come. Now the team has clearly taken games off during the regular season. Will see if this translates to being fresher and able to go up extra gears in the playoffs.

IMO the team needs a starting caliber PF to push OG to SF which may not be possible this season. But would the team be able to even stay together like that after the offseason in order to get to that point?

Celtics failed for many years where it was said Brown and Tatum wouldn't be able to win big together. Then they made the right tweeks to become champions.

I would like to see a SL of:

C - Robinson
PF - Towns
SF - OG
SG - Shamet
PG - Brunson

Then you mix in a small ball line up off the bench

Alvarado, Bridges, Hart, Diawara and Deuce when he is healthy.

We lack the Center depth do go that route since Huk hasn't proven to be reliable enough. Instead we will play smaller with our best 5 players leaving us liable to get mauled and manhandled. As Kat isn't an enforcer type. And OG while he can successfully play PF. Doesn't put him in position to impose his will like SF does.

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newyorknewyork wrote:
martin wrote:Not for nothing, but isn't this exactly what Knicks fans wanted Thibs to do last season?

Tinker with the lineup, put in young guys every once in a while to see what they got? All at the expense of wins and/or consistency of the same old thing?

Facts, comes down to the impact of this during the playoffs. With Thibs it was win every game possible during the regular season and then fans would say hey the team is burned out by the time the playoffs come. Now the team has clearly taken games off during the regular season. Will see if this translates to being fresher and able to go up extra gears in the playoffs.

IMO the team needs a starting caliber PF to push OG to SF which may not be possible this season. But would the team be able to even stay together like that after the offseason in order to get to that point?

Celtics failed for many years where it was said Brown and Tatum wouldn't be able to win big together. Then they made the right tweeks to become champions.

I would like to see a SL of:

C - Robinson
PF - Towns
SF - OG
SG - Shamet
PG - Brunson

Then you mix in a small ball line up off the bench

Alvarado, Bridges, Hart, Diawara and Deuce when he is healthy.

We lack the Center depth do go that route since Huk hasn't proven to be reliable enough. Instead we will play smaller with our best 5 players leaving us liable to get mauled and manhandled. As Kat isn't an enforcer type. And OG while he can successfully play PF. Doesn't put him in position to impose his will like SF does.

I thought Trey Jemison iii did a very good job as a small ball C. At 6’10, 270lbs he isn’t that small either. He is very capable of play 10 min a game. I’m not sure why he’s disappeared something about lots of minor injuries and G league duties.

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2/26/2026  3:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2026  3:30 PM
Same identity as it was under Thibs. Thats the problem. Brown hasn’t really brought any innovation on offense. Brown has been more willing to include more players in the rotation which helps with regular season load management and helps with keeping guys healthy. That I have to credit brown

Randle getting injured 2 years ago in garbage time of a regular season game we had already won— I think ultimately that contributed significantly to Thibs getting fired the following year.

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2/26/2026  3:31 PM
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newyorknewyork wrote:
martin wrote:Not for nothing, but isn't this exactly what Knicks fans wanted Thibs to do last season?

Tinker with the lineup, put in young guys every once in a while to see what they got? All at the expense of wins and/or consistency of the same old thing?

Facts, comes down to the impact of this during the playoffs. With Thibs it was win every game possible during the regular season and then fans would say hey the team is burned out by the time the playoffs come. Now the team has clearly taken games off during the regular season. Will see if this translates to being fresher and able to go up extra gears in the playoffs.

IMO the team needs a starting caliber PF to push OG to SF which may not be possible this season. But would the team be able to even stay together like that after the offseason in order to get to that point?

Celtics failed for many years where it was said Brown and Tatum wouldn't be able to win big together. Then they made the right tweeks to become champions.

I would like to see a SL of:

C - Robinson
PF - Towns
SF - OG
SG - Shamet
PG - Brunson

Then you mix in a small ball line up off the bench

Alvarado, Bridges, Hart, Diawara and Deuce when he is healthy.

We lack the Center depth do go that route since Huk hasn't proven to be reliable enough. Instead we will play smaller with our best 5 players leaving us liable to get mauled and manhandled. As Kat isn't an enforcer type. And OG while he can successfully play PF. Doesn't put him in position to impose his will like SF does.

I think in the playoffs you will see more Mitch and KAT together. Right now Brown is trying to keep guys healthy.

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newyorknewyork wrote:
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newyorknewyork wrote:
martin wrote:Not for nothing, but isn't this exactly what Knicks fans wanted Thibs to do last season?

Tinker with the lineup, put in young guys every once in a while to see what they got? All at the expense of wins and/or consistency of the same old thing?

Facts, comes down to the impact of this during the playoffs. With Thibs it was win every game possible during the regular season and then fans would say hey the team is burned out by the time the playoffs come. Now the team has clearly taken games off during the regular season. Will see if this translates to being fresher and able to go up extra gears in the playoffs.

IMO the team needs a starting caliber PF to push OG to SF which may not be possible this season. But would the team be able to even stay together like that after the offseason in order to get to that point?

Celtics failed for many years where it was said Brown and Tatum wouldn't be able to win big together. Then they made the right tweeks to become champions.

I would like to see a SL of:

C - Robinson
PF - Towns
SF - OG
SG - Shamet
PG - Brunson

Then you mix in a small ball line up off the bench

Alvarado, Bridges, Hart, Diawara and Deuce when he is healthy.

We lack the Center depth do go that route since Huk hasn't proven to be reliable enough. Instead we will play smaller with our best 5 players leaving us liable to get mauled and manhandled. As Kat isn't an enforcer type. And OG while he can successfully play PF. Doesn't put him in position to impose his will like SF does.

I think in the playoffs you will see more Mitch and KAT together. Right now Brown is trying to keep guys healthy.

Agreed

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2/26/2026  6:08 PM
Wild how similar they are


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2/26/2026  10:52 PM
martin wrote:Wild how similar they are


Agree. But they seem to be running the same 17 second dribble before the amazing mid range fadeaway model. Same offense. Different coach.

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2/26/2026  11:28 PM
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martin wrote:Wild how similar they are


Agree. But they seem to be running the same 17 second dribble before the amazing mid range fadeaway model. Same offense. Different coach.

Same guy handling the ball is why. Brown just doesn't have the stones to tell Brunson what to do.

Early results of Brown's offensive approach were very positive. But habits take over and it is up to the coach to keep them on track. He has not and Brunson is back to pounding the air out of the ball.

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BlueKnickers wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:Wild how similar they are




Agree. But they seem to be running the same 17 second dribble before the amazing mid range fadeaway model. Same offense. Different coach.

Same guy handling the ball is why. Brown just doesn't have the stones to tell Brunson what to do.

Early results of Brown's offensive approach were very positive. But habits take over and it is up to the coach to keep them on track. He has not and Brunson is back to pounding the air out of the ball.

I remember some very very beautiful basketball early in the season..

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2/27/2026  4:08 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/27/2026  4:10 AM
ramtour420 wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
martin wrote:Wild how similar they are




Agree. But they seem to be running the same 17 second dribble before the amazing mid range fadeaway model. Same offense. Different coach.

Same guy handling the ball is why. Brown just doesn't have the stones to tell Brunson what to do.

Early results of Brown's offensive approach were very positive. But habits take over and it is up to the coach to keep them on track. He has not and Brunson is back to pounding the air out of the ball.

I remember some very very beautiful basketball early in the season..

Yes, that is the point, because you get guys waxing poetic about the wonderful Thibs, bring him back! It's absurd. Thibs offensive strategies were non-existent and have always been dependent on a high scoring ball handler with rebounders to create second chances. Thibs was the most unimaginative coach possible.

However, Brown's team is looking similarly predictable so at the moment there is no reason to prefer Brown or Thibs in particular.

The difference is Brown does have ideas that Thibs did not, but he does not seem to be getting compliance so all is for naught in such case.

The problem is Brown's lack of authority, not his ideas.

He is deferring to the alpha scorer on the team to the detriment of an offensive identity. And that leads to fragmentation on defense in response to team dissatisfaction over their role on offense. They all try harder on defense when they feel the ball will be shared more on the other end.

Brown may not be the guy who mold this team, but Thibs didn't do jack either. People think we had his identity which is funny to me. He had buy-in from the starters because they got all the minutes they could eat. They loved it until they got burned out by such bountiful playing time. No, we had Hartenstein and Divo in the mix. This is a more passive group. It is why I want to see more minutes for guys like McCullar who brings it on defense. Alvarado helps some too.

It does come down to Brown being the passive one then, because it is his job to rein Brunson in and get the whole team integrated as a unit.

I'm less of a Brunson fan now with my new perspective, because as remarkable a player as he is I still value playing the game right over being a unique offensive player and clutch scorer. I'm losing confidence in Brunson's ability to read the room and uplift his squad. He's great on his own, but that's not enough.

23 more games for players to buy in and the team to find an identity

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