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fitzfarm
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12/9/2024  1:25 AM
I gotta say as a yankee fan I’m kinda relived that’s a lot of money for a 280 hitter. That’s one player! Good for the Mets they needed a #3 hitter in the worst way and they need to fill the stands .

The yanks can now go get any or all of these guys for less then Soto: barns, Fried, Flaherty ,Walker, Bregman
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12/9/2024  1:00 PM
You guys were going to go $760M. Don't try to get all philosophical. It's simple. You got big d*cked by Uncle Stevie and wasted a bunch of assets for a one year rental.
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12/9/2024  1:16 PM
Rumor has it the Mets are signing KD and Kyrie next
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12/9/2024  1:33 PM

Cohen is wealthiest of all owners. He got his prize.
Soto might miss having Judge behind him in the batting order.
Me thinks both teams will be ok in the long run.
Better he a Met then going to Boston.
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12/9/2024  3:28 PM
Philc1 wrote:Rumor has it the Mets are signing KD and Kyrie next

I know it was a bitter pill when they signed to Brooklyn. But I think there's been enough time to get over this.

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12/9/2024  6:22 PM
I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

Would this be like getting a super max deal starting at like $70m per with raises for 5 years compared to other max contract given out? As comparison, I think Jaylen Brown got the biggest recent super max starting at $50m and working up from there?

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12/9/2024  7:06 PM
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

Would this be like getting a super max deal starting at like $70m per with raises for 5 years compared to other max contract given out? As comparison, I think Jaylen Brown got the biggest recent super max starting at $50m and working up from there?


Not Otani level in terms of AAV (10 years, $700M). But 15 years at $51M-$55M is still historic in terms of length. Soto has an opt out in 5 years (when he'll be in his early 30s) but the Mets can negate that by offering him another step raise.
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12/9/2024  7:09 PM
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

Would this be like getting a super max deal starting at like $70m per with raises for 5 years compared to other max contract given out? As comparison, I think Jaylen Brown got the biggest recent super max starting at $50m and working up from there?

It’s a **** ton of money! Almost a billion dollars for 15 years.

I hope they check his actual age when they do the medical because there as little leaguers, these guy lie about their age- so he might really be 28 or 29!
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12/9/2024  7:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/9/2024  7:34 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

Would this be like getting a super max deal starting at like $70m per with raises for 5 years compared to other max contract given out? As comparison, I think Jaylen Brown got the biggest recent super max starting at $50m and working up from there?


Not Otani level in terms of AAV (10 years, $700M). But 15 years at $51M-$55M is still historic in terms of length. Soto has an opt out in 5 years (when he'll be in his early 30s) but the Mets can negate that by offering him another step raise.

Got you, Otani got a more girthy contract but shorter length by comparison.

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12/9/2024  9:35 PM
Honestly, that money can be better spent … you would have thought the yanks learned their lesson on mega contracts they never pan out . I would have walked away after it went up past 600 mil . For a career 280 hitter and a below average fielder . People are acting and paying like he’s the best player in baseball. I’m not denying his talents he’s a great player. But 765 mil for .280 dang . How baseball has changed .

Good for the Mets though little brother needs to fill the seats. I swear though Mets are like the jets they are cursed watch Soto go out for the year in spring training. Or under perform like Arron Rodgers .

Yanks don’t need hitters we need to create the best starting rotation in the mlb and seal up holes in our bullpen. And all of that will cost less than Soto.

Would love another subway series !
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12/9/2024  9:36 PM
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

Would this be like getting a super max deal starting at like $70m per with raises for 5 years compared to other max contract given out? As comparison, I think Jaylen Brown got the biggest recent super max starting at $50m and working up from there?

He got a 15 year contract. There is no comparable contract in the nba. Baseball is crazy
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12/9/2024  9:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/9/2024  9:44 PM
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

Would this be like getting a super max deal starting at like $70m per with raises for 5 years compared to other max contract given out? As comparison, I think Jaylen Brown got the biggest recent super max starting at $50m and working up from there?

It’s a **** ton of money! Almost a billion dollars for 15 years.

I hope they check his actual age when they do the medical because there as little leaguers, these guy lie about their age- so he might really be 28 or 29!

He will be a DH last 6-7 years of the contract similar to Stanton now with the Yankees. Baseball players can play to well in their 40’s it’s just that during the steroid era so many guys’ bodies would break down by their mid-30’s. Satchell Paige won ROY when he was 47.
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12/10/2024  7:25 AM
fitzfarm wrote:Honestly, that money can be better spent … you would have thought the yanks learned their lesson on mega contracts they never pan out . I would have walked away after it went up past 600 mil . For a career 280 hitter and a below average fielder . People are acting and paying like he’s the best player in baseball. I’m not denying his talents he’s a great player. But 765 mil for .280 dang . How baseball has changed .

Good for the Mets though little brother needs to fill the seats. I swear though Mets are like the jets they are cursed watch Soto go out for the year in spring training. Or under perform like Arron Rodgers .

Yanks don’t need hitters we need to create the best starting rotation in the mlb and seal up holes in our bullpen. And all of that will cost less than Soto.

Would love another subway series !

I think WFAN had a journalist/analyst that covers baseball say based on his WAR, he should be getting something like $65m per year - which I know is insane! But then the numbers for average ball players is pretty mind boggling too.
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12/10/2024  9:04 AM
I like this move for the Mets. Risky as hell for the long term but they got better today. Hope their luck changes. Everything they do usually turns to crap. The subway series just heated up!
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12/10/2024  11:16 AM
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

Would this be like getting a super max deal starting at like $70m per with raises for 5 years compared to other max contract given out? As comparison, I think Jaylen Brown got the biggest recent super max starting at $50m and working up from there?

In NBA terms it would be higher than anything ever given out for a contract. Think of giving $80M to Luka for 5 years per season. You'll get superior offense and sub-par defense.
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BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

Would this be like getting a super max deal starting at like $70m per with raises for 5 years compared to other max contract given out? As comparison, I think Jaylen Brown got the biggest recent super max starting at $50m and working up from there?


Not Otani level in terms of AAV (10 years, $700M). But 15 years at $51M-$55M is still historic in terms of length. Soto has an opt out in 5 years (when he'll be in his early 30s) but the Mets can negate that by offering him another step raise.

Its semantics but Ohtani's contract is heavily deferred so his AAV impact against the tax (which is all that essentially matters in terms of MLB relative lack of a cap) is ~$46M per season.
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12/10/2024  11:42 AM
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

It’s basically like if Jordan, LeBron, or equivalent was able to get Lakers into a bidding war with Ballmer and Dolan without being constrained by the CBA or a salary cap

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12/10/2024  9:47 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

It’s basically like if Jordan, LeBron, or equivalent was able to get Lakers into a bidding war with Ballmer and Dolan without being constrained by the CBA or a salary cap

And Soto chose queens cause he was promised the best room at the Holiday Inn Express (Citi) and the Yanks wouldn’t match with a Suite at the Ritz Carlton (Yankee muth****in Stadium).

You know I gonna spin wit it
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EwingsGlass wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

It’s basically like if Jordan, LeBron, or equivalent was able to get Lakers into a bidding war with Ballmer and Dolan without being constrained by the CBA or a salary cap

And Soto chose queens cause he was promised the best room at the Holiday Inn Express (Citi) and the Yanks wouldn’t match with a Suite at the Ritz Carlton (Yankee muth****in Stadium).

I read this and though- honestly, is that the Yankee hill you’re going to die on- the principle of not giving your best player a suite so their family can come watch him play?
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franco12 wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:I’m not a baseball guy. Help me understand the magnitude of contract he just got relative to NBA max deals.

It’s basically like if Jordan, LeBron, or equivalent was able to get Lakers into a bidding war with Ballmer and Dolan without being constrained by the CBA or a salary cap

And Soto chose queens cause he was promised the best room at the Holiday Inn Express (Citi) and the Yanks wouldn’t match with a Suite at the Ritz Carlton (Yankee muth****in Stadium).

I read this and though- honestly, is that the Yankee hill you’re going to die on- the principle of not giving your best player a suite so their family can come watch him play?

Probably not. Either way, if he wanted to be a Yankee, he would be. He chose Flushing and we will see how it swirls for him.

You know I gonna spin wit it
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