Alpha1971 wrote:I recall how excited I was about Quentin Grimes. Man felt he was Allen Houston with Latrell Sprewells defense all rolled into one. The shine of his halo sort of vanished very quickly and now he seems to have become a regular journeyman. For the purposes of our team do you think Landry Shamet offers the same production that Grimes would have given the team if he was still here ? I don't recall Shamet playing against us, is he any good ?

Alpha1971 wrote:I recall how excited I was about Quentin Grimes. Man felt he was Allen Houston with Latrell Sprewells defense all rolled into one. The shine of his halo sort of vanished very quickly and now he seems to have become a regular journeyman. For the purposes of our team do you think Landry Shamet offers the same production that Grimes would have given the team if he was still here ? I don't recall Shamet playing against us, is he any good ?

Grimes had skills. Problem was he was one dimensional on offense. And soft.
Shamet is more like Donte. IMO.
Much more active without the ball.
Unlike Grimes uses the pump fake from three to get to other levels.
He has a quick release and decent mechanics with his jump shot.
Pretty good variety of finishes at the basket.
Think fans will like his high energy.
With that all said, he has been in the league for a minute and still just a journeyman trying to make a roster.

Shamet came out of college as a PG (in my view) so I've never seen him as a 3 but sounds like that is the plan short-term at least.

I don't mind Payne/Duece/Shamet/Precious combo but would be nice to squeeze maybe an OG/Mikal/Hart in there instead of Sims.

jskinny35 wrote:I was hyped about Grimes and heard how great his defense was... but after watching I would say his defense was solid/decent but nothing exceptional IMO. I recall many times his limited size hurt him when guarding longer/taller players. I don't really recall him shutting anyone down or doing anything more than playing solid defense. I think Shamet will fill a similar role here and wouldn't be surprised is he offered similar stats and inconsistency.

I undersand Grimes is gone but lets not change history. He was an amazing defender for us. He took the hardest match and was often left by himself because Randle, Brunson and RJ are not good defenders. Grimes issue was consistancy and actually earning the 3 part of being a 3 and D player. Once teams learned he would over look for the pass on his drives he became even less effective.

I always talk about confidence & consistency, and Grimes never developed it on the Knicks. Deuce took a large step last year, and hopefully, he takes another one this year.

Shamet may have the confidence Grimes lacks. It doesn't matter if Grimes, at his best, is better than Shamet at his best...If Shamet can play hard with consistency, he is probably a better fit on the team we know have.

This doesn't mean that at some point, Grimes might not be a better version of Danny Green on a playoff quality team, but he clearly hasn't taken that next step in his development.