Rookie wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Someone counted their chickens before they hatched.

I mean it was a petty good argument for why you don’t trade Donovan Mitchell and yo do everything you can to put a better team around him before the clock runs out.

DM leaving is his desire to play elsewhere?
Mobley is not what we thought he was, but he is 22 years old still.
Had 16 boards today.
Yes, Clev was without Allen.
Players and teams are not always what they were. We beat them last year. Does that mean they are "soft" forever?

Banchero is 21! And he is 6'10"- he is mobile big man that can shoot - and he will only get better.

DLeethal wrote:

Rookie wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Someone counted their chickens before they hatched.

I mean it was a petty good argument for why you don’t trade Donovan Mitchell and yo do everything you can to put a better team around him before the clock runs out.

This seems to hinge on a major, IMO bad assumption that Donovan will stay. They need to plan for life after Donovan because all signs are he wants to choose his next destination like many players that reach their prime FA.

When has DM ever even hinted at requesting a trade. I'll wait right here......I'm pretty sure the assumption is yours

We really going to label Mobley at his age as a finished piece?
The "small backcourt" is flawed. Would they be if it was Brunson and DM also?
I dont't see how DM gets here. I can see him on the Nets with Mikal but Clev has to be happy with a trade and they in mostly "win now" mode.
I can see him as a Laker but not the path to how. same for Miami. I can see Herro as a Cav with Garland. Miami has to sweeten the offer still.

Or DM swears his oath to Cavs and they trade Garland and keep going forward. DM walking after the season?
I doubt that.

Key to critical thinking is to avoid assumptions. I think there are many facets to DM being traded, asking quietly to be traded, being a knick/Net/CAA, and his desire to live in NY during the season but to what degree each is valid is known by very few.

Nalod wrote:There has been a lot written that DM thought he was being traded from Utah to Knicks. A lot of conjecture surrounding that then and until he signs and extension and comments on his intentions its just assumed.
His father is a Mets employee, and he spends a lot of time here. The CAA thing? That just makes it cozy.
Johnny Bryant coached DM in his most formidable stage as a young player and its been said they are tight.
Since that summer when he was moved to Clev Jalen has emerged to his peer or perhaps beyond.
Does that change anything? Does the 15-2 January demonstrate we don't need that 3rd star? With the CBA and the apron's does it make sense?
Jalen is dues a raise. Jules is due a raise. OG is UFA. There are limits.

We really going to label Mobley at his age as a finished piece?
The "small backcourt" is flawed. Would they be if it was Brunson and DM also?
I dont't see how DM gets here. I can see him on the Nets with Mikal but Clev has to be happy with a trade and they in mostly "win now" mode.
I can see him as a Laker but not the path to how. same for Miami. I can see Herro as a Cav with Garland. Miami has to sweeten the offer still.

Or DM swears his oath to Cavs and they trade Garland and keep going forward. DM walking after the season?
I doubt that.

Key to critical thinking is to avoid assumptions. I think there are many facets to DM being traded, asking quietly to be traded, being a knick/Net/CAA, and his desire to live in NY during the season but to what degree each is valid is known by very few.

We don't really have to overthink it. Cleveland isn't where he wanted to go, and he has free agency approaching where he can choose the team he wants to go to and spend his prime years. Why would he stay in Cleveland? Nobody thinks he's actually going to do that. Whether the Knicks make a play for him or not is irrelevant, he will want to explore free agency like every star player pretty much does nowadays for their prime years.

Donovan Mitchell: “I kinda had a feeling I was going to get moved. I thought it was New York, I'm not gonna lie to y'all. Who doesn’t want to be home…it would have been nice”

Since then he's gotten embarrassed in the playoffs by the Knicks, his team intentionally tanked to avoid playing a tougher team in the first round while the Knicks manned up and beat said team in a high profile historic series, his team nearly got eliminated by a first-timer Orlando Magic, his teammates barely showed up and he needed to be superman.

Not a whole lot to suggest he's gonna drop all his other options and commit to Cleveland for his entire prime.