He speaks the part, looks the part to me

Over the past couple months he has trended better than any other candidate

I think if Trump doesn't show up, debate, and discredit this guy, a bunch of people will vote for him

Rookie wrote:He’s got a big hill to climb to catch up in the polling. I don’t think it’s his time yet, but he’ll get there one day. We’ve got some big foreign policy challenges ahead of us. I haven’t seen where he stands on international issues yet.

He’s gonna wipe people out during debate. His iq/speed/delivery is 5-10x better than the other candidates. Ron desantis talks like a walrus

I will add I recall an SNL sketch in early 1992 (I think) mocking the Democratic candidates jockeying for the privilege of being obliterated by George Bush Sr. Then Bill Clinton came out of nowhere and became a two term president.

martin wrote:Once you get past Ramaswamy's shiny veneer, he is a sham. Just like Trump before him.

Fall for the con, get burned by the con. He is a well spoken political actor who delivers his lines nicely. After you get past that almost transparently thin layer, he has nothing to offer.

Do your homework this time Briggs so that you don't have to get burned by your own question of "What have we got to lose?"

This message from the party that brought you Biden/Harris LOL. There is still tons of time to learn about the candidates, why try and shut down the conversation now?

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

martin wrote:Once you get past Ramaswamy's shiny veneer, he is a sham. Just like Trump before him.

Fall for the con, get burned by the con. He is a well spoken political actor who delivers his lines nicely. After you get past that almost transparently thin layer, he has nothing to offer.

Do your homework this time Briggs so that you don't have to get burned by your own question of "What have we got to lose?"

This message from the party that brought you Biden/Harris LOL. There is still tons of time to learn about the candidates, why try and shut down the conversation now?

Because he has been around along enough to gather such information?

The question me is why hasn't Briggs or perhaps you done enough of your homework to not realize otherwise?

Let me know if you have any specific questions about this guy, I'll be glad to help out.

Because it's still early enough in the process to let it play out. If you have dirt go ahead and spill it. I would like to hear it.

KnickDanger wrote:

Alpha1971 wrote:I am a former Republican. I was the rarest of the bunch African American and Hispanic, raised by evangelicals, military family. We weren't ideologues and supported causes that transcended party very often. Party has no foundational principal at this point. Went from a party that believed in personal responsibility to what ever the cult leaders says now. BTW, how does voting for the wants of billionaires help the regular guy ? Do a brief Google of how much Billionaires reinvest their profits to grow the economy further I am not a Sanders supporter but the wealth gap to the top 1 percent helps who, how. Conservative economic theory is a fraud leaving the middle class with the bill. Plus, social issue seems to be a motivator for the base. So target gays, transgenders, and other marginalized groups. Plus deprive woman of their reproductive rights, first with abortion and soon birth control meds. I left the party before Trump there was already enough evidence I was hoodwinked but darn now anyone who would support this train wreck of a party well, back to the Knicks .

Yep yep yep.

I recall my parents, registered Democrats, not always voting the party line. I too am registered as such, but do not like some of the extremes I see. But the Republican Party has gone from being the rich man’s party of fiscal responsibility, pro-business, states rights, and such to a convoluted mish mash of hateful fear mongering that heavily benefits the richest of the rich while destroying so much else. Insane really that a large heap of its followers get screwed by it and like it.

My father was a conservative evangelical military vet. He identified as a Republican but was also a union member and thus he had a balanced world view. He was a war veteran and supported gun rights but never owned one when I was alive. Very balanced approach he was not afraid and paid his taxes so that police officers could be well paid and employed to protect us. We lived all our lives in the Bronx and never needed a weapon. Conservatives always used dog whistles and exploited wedge issues to divide and conquer but it's on a level of magnitude exponentially greater now. I have a coworker who swore the Trump tax cuts would benefit him. We pay more in taxes now
But still swears it's been great. Me and my coworkers, both pay many thousands more per year now, as we lost deductions we used to have, plus SALT taxes for the blue States as the red states reciece subsidies from the blue States in the tax formula they use. It can go on and on. Yet, they are screwed over and like it as long as they can trash transgenders or some other Boogeyman

GustavBahler wrote:There was a book written 40 plus years ago called "Friendly Fascism". Ive read exerpts. It argues that Fascism would morph from the traditional 20th century model, into something more telegenic. Fascism with a smiling face. Ramaswany IMO is the first candidate who looks like a poster boy for this movement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_Fascism_(book)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/26/vivek-ramaswamy-2024-presidential-campaign/

Billed as “America First 2.0,” an argument that Trump did not go far enough in passing his policy agenda as president, Ramaswamy’s platform — which leans heavily on executive actions — includes raising the voting age to 25 unless certain requirements are met, ending affirmative action “in every sphere of American life,” shutting down the FBI, and trimming 75 percent of executive branch employees to reduce the size of the “administrative state.”

“It shows, frankly, a historically unprecedented disregard for the powers laid out in the Constitution, which are that the president is supposed to execute the law, not just create new ones willy-nilly,” presidential historian Lindsay Chervinsky said of the plans. “This is unprecedented in its disregard for that power sharing structure laid out in the Constitution.”

On Thursday in New Hampshire, Ramaswamy unveiled the details of his plan to shut down the FBI, as well as the Department of Education and National Regulatory Commission, surrounded by charts covered in red strike marks and arrows. The next day, he was back in Iowa hosting an event that rhymes with the pronunciation of his first name: “Lunch Break with Vivek.” He recently followed in Trump’s footsteps by releasing a list of possible Supreme Court nominees if elected, including Sens. Mike Lee (R-Utah) and Ted Cruz (R-Tex.)

He has also faced pushback on his approach to foreign policy, including ceding support for Ukraine to negotiate a peace treaty with Russia and his unorthodox approach on other matters. “You want to stop Xi Jinping from invading Taiwan, put a gun in every Taiwanese household!” Ramaswamy exclaimed in his NRA speech.

Some have criticized Ramaswamy for shifting positions. After the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol by a pro-Trump mob, Ramaswamy tweeted that what Trump did was wrong and “downright abhorrent” regarding his handling of the day. Now, as a candidate, he has continued to criticize Trump’s actions on Jan. 6 but has also been one of his loudest defenders, including against a potential indictment over the day.

In June, when Trump was arraigned on federal charges at a courthouse in Miami, Ramaswamy was in front of the courthouse, calling on every other presidential candidate in the race to commit to pardoning Trump if elected

He is not the first and he really isn't that great at it. There have been better. He is just the latest brown face to do it for the conservatives. He is not that good. He knows what he has to say to get what he wants from those who will reward him for being their avatar.