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EwingsGlass
Posts: 27456 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
7/11/2023 8:34 AM
Until I see the defense, its hard to tell. Grimes defense stood out immediately. That's the thing that buys minutes early. No combine stats to peruse either. 6'6 with a reported 6'll wingspan at 19 years old. Solid biometric size at the guard position. Seems to have solid footwork but I didn't see any explosive athleticism. His shot off the pass seemed pretty efficient. At 19, I like him on a two way contract. Higher upside than Keels. Let the staff muscle him up a little like they did with IQ. I think he has a chance. Good prospect.
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Knixkik
Posts: 35409 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
7/11/2023 8:55 AM
I hope so. Betting on an undrafted rookie is tough but we need something in the pipeline.
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LivingLegend
Posts: 25456 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
7/11/2023 10:18 AM
He certainly can defend and will bring effort - for him I think it’s all about developing a jump shot 1) off the dribble and 2) 3 point range.
Also not sure on how well he understands the game - everything he’s getting in summer league seems to be off hustle and or simply trying to put his head down and get to the rim. |
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34053 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
7/11/2023 10:30 AM LAST EDITED: 7/11/2023 10:31 AM
I get what you're saying but think it is misguided. He should simply be treated as a legit prospect
We do not have any blue chippers. So, with that in mind, we should be pretty thorough and patient with what we got. History has shown us that sometimes it just takes time. Look at Bruce Bowen or Jeremy Lin. I'm not saying that we have anyone on the SL roster that compares to either or will become one of them. What I am saying though, is we should treat everyone on the team like they could be that, because there is no excuse to let a no name who can ball slip through our fingers DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39742 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
7/11/2023 11:10 AM
I think he'll be a legit "prospect" in a year. He has legit holes in his game, but I like the aggressiveness. To be honest, it's hard to change anyone when Trevor Keels is your point guard.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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blkexec
Posts: 28292 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
7/11/2023 12:46 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:I think he'll be a legit "prospect" in a year. He has legit holes in his game, but I like the aggressiveness. To be honest, it's hard to change anyone when Trevor Keels is your point guard. I agree. Playing with smart vets and a PG like JB, he might look like a promising future star or solid rotation player. But Keels is a combo guard who doesn't make others better, from what I'm seeing. And the SL team is suffering from not having a legit PG. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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fishmike
Posts: 53800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/11/2023 12:47 PM
came across this:
“New Knick Jaylen Martin missed about two months of the 2022-23 Overtime Elite season with a hamstring injury. https://www.sny.tv/articles/knicks-jaylen-martin-undrafted-ticks-boxes-2023 "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Panos
Posts: 30050 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 1/6/2004 Member: #520 |
7/11/2023 1:53 PM LAST EDITED: 7/11/2023 1:54 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:I think he'll be a legit "prospect" in a year. He has legit holes in his game, but I like the aggressiveness. To be honest, it's hard to change anyone when Trevor Keels is your point guard. Can we trade Trevor Keels for two "least desirable" second round picks? |
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39742 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
7/11/2023 2:00 PM
Panos wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think he'll be a legit "prospect" in a year. He has legit holes in his game, but I like the aggressiveness. To be honest, it's hard to change anyone when Trevor Keels is your point guard. I've made my peace with it. What was the other option? A first rounder so heavily protected that it was going to convey to two ****ty seconds anyway? It's done and, sadly, we wasted Obi's value over the years. I'm more concerned about the fact that Jason Hart is looking like he'll be out backup 4 going into the season. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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blkexec
Posts: 28292 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
7/11/2023 2:56 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Panos wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think he'll be a legit "prospect" in a year. He has legit holes in his game, but I like the aggressiveness. To be honest, it's hard to change anyone when Trevor Keels is your point guard. I’m more concerned about our current rotation and which players value will decrease from it. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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KnickDanger
Posts: 24375 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
7/11/2023 3:11 PM
"Keels Hate' - rolls right off the tongue.
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fishmike
Posts: 53800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/11/2023 3:58 PM
blkexec wrote:Out goes Obi. In comes DD. Please.. do elaborate on your concerns with our current rotation and who is losing valueBigDaddyG wrote:Panos wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think he'll be a legit "prospect" in a year. He has legit holes in his game, but I like the aggressiveness. To be honest, it's hard to change anyone when Trevor Keels is your point guard. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39742 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
7/11/2023 4:21 PM
KnickDanger wrote:"Keels Hate' - rolls right off the tongue. Does it roll as smoothly as he does when you push him down a hill? Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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blkexec
Posts: 28292 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
7/11/2023 4:21 PM LAST EDITED: 7/11/2023 4:24 PM
fishmike wrote:blkexec wrote:Out goes Obi. In comes DD. Please.. do elaborate on your concerns with our current rotation and who is losing valueBigDaddyG wrote:Panos wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think he'll be a legit "prospect" in a year. He has legit holes in his game, but I like the aggressiveness. To be honest, it's hard to change anyone when Trevor Keels is your point guard. Unless DDV can play power forward, then theres no worries. If not, we are crowed at the guard position. Unless you are smoking whatever Nalod is smoking I'm sure you know this already, but I'll play along since you asked. PG: JB 35 | IQ 13 (IQ averaged 29 mins last season) If you include McBride, Thibs has to force 11 guys into a 9 man rotation. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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blkexec
Posts: 28292 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
7/11/2023 4:33 PM
Trying to decide if this kid is a real prospect. At 19, with his size, build and experience, he's definitely a legit prospect. There's just no room in our 9 man rotation. Prior to his injury, he was coached by Charlie Ward and was identified as one of the top players in the OTE program. So right now, his value is super high because of his age. Good player to develop or use as a trade. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39742 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
7/11/2023 4:48 PM
blkexec wrote:Trying to decide if this kid is a real prospect. I agree. Will also add that OTE hasn't really impressed me much in terms of player development. Jean Montero, who was also highly touted coming in, looked years behind his college counterpoints. I think even the Thompson twins would've been better off going to college. Even the G-League. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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KnickDanger
Posts: 24375 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
7/11/2023 4:54 PM LAST EDITED: 7/11/2023 4:55 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:KnickDanger wrote:"Keels Hate' - rolls right off the tongue. I think you’d have multiple volunteers to find out! |
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martin
Posts: 75991 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
7/11/2023 4:55 PM
blkexec wrote:fishmike wrote:blkexec wrote:Out goes Obi. In comes DD. Please.. do elaborate on your concerns with our current rotation and who is losing valueBigDaddyG wrote:Panos wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think he'll be a legit "prospect" in a year. He has legit holes in his game, but I like the aggressiveness. To be honest, it's hard to change anyone when Trevor Keels is your point guard. Team like Miami only mostly had Love Bam at their big positions and did OK. More than enough teams run small ball at times and effectively with the right type of personnel and the Knicks have that in RJ Hart DDV who are all good rebounding guards. Big lineup opponent? You run iHart and some Jericho for a hot minute. I’m guessing the Venn diagram of those posters who screamed about wanting to run small ball with Obi are a full circle overlap of those bedwetting that the Knicks don’t have a backup PF and need to use Hart or RJ at that position with the bench rotation alongside iHart. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39742 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
7/11/2023 5:04 PM LAST EDITED: 7/11/2023 5:06 PM
martin wrote:blkexec wrote:fishmike wrote:blkexec wrote:Out goes Obi. In comes DD. Please.. do elaborate on your concerns with our current rotation and who is losing valueBigDaddyG wrote:Panos wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think he'll be a legit "prospect" in a year. He has legit holes in his game, but I like the aggressiveness. To be honest, it's hard to change anyone when Trevor Keels is your point guard. That other part of that argument is Thibs has to be willing to go small. I'm not saying you can't teach an old dog new tricks. But I have to see it to believe it. Also, were not particularly lengthy to begin with. It was a problem this past season and it got worse. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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