Where else could he be traded?

Package to gsw for kuminga and donte D would be my preference (we’d probably have to send back a pick/picks)

Although they did just ditch Poole to get kuminga more PT

Would we have to send out obi?

Could the kings or rockets use EF?

Wizards?

Some other under the cap team?

Jazz?

I’m sure teams rather wait it out and scoop him after a buy out or continue to ask Leon to pay for some of that 18mil and send them EF plus cash. Or some team will swoop in last min and meet Leon’s trade demands. Otherwise a buy out is the last resort. And the league already knows his resume.

Guess it will take GMs a few more years to realize Leon is not the typical NY GM /president from the past. Leon seems to be more calculated and patient with his moves and doesn’t seem to get rushed into something, unless it’s a sure fire thing like JB, who’s a monster clutch player (btw).

I just hope Leon doesnt over think this. Study too long can lead to stagnation. JB and Jules are in their prime. I don’t mind the patients but at some point he’s gotta forced it and take a chance on somebody, maybe it’s zion. Maybe Leon is delaying the resigning of hart and others to make sure we are in position to land PG or Zion for a Beal type trade where we still keep JB and Jules, along with some of our bench. Maybe Leon’s peeps leeked the deuce article to increase his trade value so that we don’t have to give up the farm.

So if I’m Leon I’m taking my time with EF until the right opportunity arrives. Because a buy out is always a better option than forcing a player into a culture that doesn’t fit.

blkexec wrote:This depends on the return. Leon will not be forced into adding a pick or adding another player just to dump EF. EF is not a locker room cancer like other disgruntled vets who’s riding the bench.

I’m sure teams rather wait it out and scoop him after a buy out or continue to ask Leon to pay for some of that 18mil and send them EF plus cash. Or some team will swoop in last min and meet Leon’s trade demands. Otherwise a buy out is the last resort. And the league already knows his resume.

Guess it will take GMs a few more years to realize Leon is not the typical NY GM /president from the past. Leon seems to be more calculated and patient with his moves and doesn’t seem to get rushed into something, unless it’s a sure fire thing like JB, who’s a monster clutch player (btw).

I just hope Leon doesnt over think this. Study too long can lead to stagnation. JB and Jules are in their prime. I don’t mind the patients but at some point he’s gotta forced it and take a chance on somebody, maybe it’s zion. Maybe Leon is delaying the resigning of hart and others to make sure we are in position to land PG or Zion for a Beal type trade where we still keep JB and Jules, along with some of our bench. Maybe Leon’s peeps leeked the deuce article to increase his trade value so that we don’t have to give up the farm.

So if I’m Leon I’m taking my time with EF until the right opportunity arrives. Because a buy out is always a better option than forcing a player into a culture that doesn’t fit.

If they can get a pick back for EF Rose is immediately pulling the trigger. 2024 is a team option so he’s basically an expiring contract now so maybe someone out there wants him

jskinny35 wrote:As much as I appreciate Thib's emphasis on defense I too still wish he were a little more flexible at times. While I get Fournier is not a very good defender we are now likely to take another loss on a trade when he could offer us some value as a reserve at times. Yes we need better defense but more then that we need outside shooting and it's literally the one thing he can still do - so why not spot minutes here and there and let him expire? If a trade opportunity presents itself I'll help him pack but if not - use him as a 10th man. I do understand team defense is only as strong as your weakest link but how does Miami get away with Herro and Robinson playing?

Miami put out Duncan Robinson who seems like a younger version of Fournier (great shooter, lousy defense) and we didn't use Fournier for even one minute - despite the fact that we couldn't score a bucket and clearly needed outside shooting and spacing. So while I don't personally care for Fournier - it's just a reminder that the FO keeps trying to add players in hopes Thibs will use them - but he simply won't if they don't fit his criteria (which is not a bad criteria btw) - just a tad too rigid IMO.

All hopes turn back to Grimes to really come along this sesason since neither RJ or Hart are consistent outside shooters.

KNicks had the 6th rated offense this past season.
WE don’t take a loss unless it actually happens, not because talk about it.
Best guess is he is cap fodder for a trade, but that remains to be seen. If we dump him and have to attach a pick, its to create cap space to sign someone? If so, its a net neutral?
EF does not move without the ball well like Duncan robinson does. His first 10-20 games in his first season it was known he frustrated Randle by his lack of timing. Did it get corrected?
EF is a pro and took his demotion like a man.

fishmike wrote:keep him. If a star shakes free mid season or there's a deadline fire sale his expiring contract is a must have piece. A polished shooter on an expiring contract looking to remind people why he belongs in the league is a nice commodity. If we dont trade him we can be classy and buy him out (if that's his wish)

Good point. Maybe the suns, blazers or warriors get desperate to unload a veteran star next February and EF’s expiring contract plus an asset and a couple picks might be all it takes

VDesai wrote:To me best Fit is the Suns. Suns need shooters/spacers around their 3 alphas. I think EF/Robinson for Ayton makes sense.

Thing is Ayton wants more shots than Phoenix is willing to give him. From Phoenix's point of view they need to add guys who can roll with the big 3 for 2+ seasons Not sure if EF has any value as a player going forward. Few picks would likely need to be included to make it happen. Ayton was about equal to Robinson in on the court impact so the bigger question is fit.