That's it.

Then its:

Mitch/IHart
Randle/?
PG13/JHart
RJ/Grimes
Bruns/IQ

Obviously there is more to this but as it would be in my head.

The thing with the older stars is that its like a game of musical chairs. I can trade 4 1sts if I know I will have a chance to get them back on the next trade. But once a guy hits injuries like this after 30, you gotta wonder if there is any residual trade value.

I look at the Simmons trade chart and obviously have questions. GSW isn't taking Randle for Dray by that value chart. BS. At 33 with one year left on his contract, how much could a team trade for George?

EwingsGlass wrote:Paul George is 33. A fine player but hasn't been on the court more than 60 games since 2018. Great all around player. Not sure I want to give up a lot for him though. Fournier, Rose's contract and Toppin works and I would be ok with some of the other picks. I don't know. Does this deal happen without including Barrett or Randle?

The thing with the older stars is that its like a game of musical chairs. I can trade 4 1sts if I know I will have a chance to get them back on the next trade. But once a guy hits injuries like this after 30, you gotta wonder if there is any residual trade value.

I look at the Simmons trade chart and obviously have questions. GSW isn't taking Randle for Dray by that value chart. BS. At 33 with one year left on his contract, how much could a team trade for George?

This look like one year or two? I see two. Am I missing something? He gonna not opt in on nearly 50mil??
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/la-clippers/paul-george-6892/
There has to be more to all of this.

PG-13 is not the missing piece, not on our time line, and seems ridiculous consider the way things were being put together.

We need shooting but we're going to get another guy who wants the ball in his hands.

fishmike wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Nalod wrote:I need to know more. PG13 has one year left on his contract. Is this a dump?
He makes 45 this year and nearly 49mm next with a player option. Post said one year left.
He is 33 and often injured.
What am I missing that makes me think its a good idea?

IQ would probably go in that deal after the Clips missed out on Brogdan. RJ, Obi and Grimes also strong possibilities.

god he's just not worth those guys. We absolutely need a 3rd bigtime player to compete but we also need quality depth and it needs to be the RIGHT star.

Anthony Davis would be best fit. Dude cant make it to the postseason without being totally busted.
KD would be a great fit between Randle/Brunson. That's obviously a no.
Giannis is an obvious yes for us, an obvious NO from the Bucks.

LITERALLY ALL the right fits are not available. Butler would be the perfect SG.. etc etc

All these guys being mentioned like Zach, PG etc are all 2nd tier guys.

If anything hurts its not getting Porzingis which we surely could have at that price point.

I am totally OK if folks think I am wildly overvaluing our guys but Grimes is a stopped, IQ is a 20ppg starter, Mitch destroyed the Cle front court, year 2 of Brunson/Randle playing together.... this is the time to be patient. We are young. Phuck these broken down guys making $40mm +

I would hate this deal if they gave up real assets. Paul is a really good player, but he's not reliable from a durability standpoint. I'm good at missing out KP. He still needs to get paid.

I’m having a sinking feeling of here we go again w hurt older players

Nalod wrote:

Chandler wrote:Seems like deranged short term thinking.

PG-13 is not the missing piece, not on our time line, and seems ridiculous consider the way things were being put together.

We need shooting but we're going to get another guy who wants the ball in his hands.

He can shoot, no?

he's a fine player. it just makes no sense. too old, too much salary, bad fit (four iso guys). If you're looking for purely shooting we can do better and honestly might have better if could get IQ and Grimes to be more willing

to use your term he's kind of a star-phuch. His wheels might fall off any moment

Chandler wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Chandler wrote:Seems like deranged short term thinking.

PG-13 is not the missing piece, not on our time line, and seems ridiculous consider the way things were being put together.

We need shooting but we're going to get another guy who wants the ball in his hands.

He can shoot, no?

he's a fine player. it just makes no sense. too old, too much salary, bad fit (four iso guys). If you're looking for purely shooting we can do better and honestly might have better if could get IQ and Grimes to be more willing

to use your term he's kind of a star-phuch. His wheels might fall off any moment

I agree. Im just trying to understand what is just a rumor.
All it said was knicks talked. That's it. I'm not thinking this is a thing until it is and the final price. If Beal went for basically nothing, I expect PG13 for even less than.