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Caseloads
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1/10/2023  9:01 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/rumor-knicks-asking-price-for-cam-reddish-amid-lakers-bucks-trade-interest/ar-AA16aQR8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=68636849578640aba155db1e9826f9f7
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1/10/2023  9:15 PM
Caseloads wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/rumor-knicks-asking-price-for-cam-reddish-amid-lakers-bucks-trade-interest/ar-AA16aQR8?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=68636849578640aba155db1e9826f9f7

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1/10/2023  11:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/10/2023  11:42 PM
I swear, sharpshooter? He was a "sharpshooter" for what, 10-15 games? It was the best percentages of his life! Am I missing something? Those must be a freaking IMPRESSIVE 8 points and 1 rebound per game (to the media and fans of course, actual teams themselves apparently aren't willing to give up 2 second round picks for 8 pts and 1 rebound.....).
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1/11/2023  8:09 AM
That Hornets protected first is looking like it will convey as two second round picks when it's all said and done. If this rumor is true, it looks like Brock is simply trying to recoup what he gave up. The thing for me is that teams need to think about whether or not Cam is even worth two second rounders. If this doesn't give Cam a fresh perspective of where his career is at, nothing will.
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1/11/2023  9:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2023  9:44 AM
My guess is that the FO saw what Cam could do in spots. Wanted to see if Thibs could get more consistency out of him. Old school like in college.

Definitely not Thibs fault this didnt work out. Gave him the PT to stick. Probably would have been more patient if this was Cam's rookie or sophomore year. But he's a veteran now.
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1/11/2023  12:43 PM
Hard to know what Reddish's future will be elsewhere as fit and minutes are vital to young players. Really surprised he couldn't even find spot minutes when RJ was out - considering he's better defensively vs Fournier and going smaller.

I keep going back to he must have a bad attitude or bad work ethic or giant ego... something to explain why he hasn't played and we will dump him... and then likely begin a new search for a 3 and D long, athletic wing. We'll probably find out after he gets traded.
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1/11/2023  1:22 PM
Reddish is gonna be signed by someone as an afterthought next year like "we are thin at wing and maybe he does ok"
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1/11/2023  2:02 PM
I think Reddish is far better than people give credit for. I'd predict that he will go to the Hornets next year and replace Kelly Oubre in that lineup and people will be looking at him funny wondering where he came from. The usage rate among Randle (27.6%), Brunson (27.2%) and Barrett (25%) is just too high to allow other young players to get meaningful minutes. They use over 79% of the Knicks possessions while they are on the court. Quickley uses 19% of possession while on the court. Robinson is 9.6% and Grimes is 13.6%. I just don't think it is possible for a young player to really shine with that kind of usage among the big three.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/usage?CF=MIN*GE*1000&dir=A&sort=USG_PCT

Reddish didn't perform here and lost his shot. He looked lost at times. But I truly believe that is because guys like him and Miles get so anxious that they actually have the ball that they make silly mistakes. McBride is finding his stride. I just think that the ball movement and sharing is a little light here with our three ball dominant players.

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1/12/2023  6:57 AM
If reddish succeeds its because he needs to be in a system that allows greater freedom AND he locked down some fundamentals he was lacking on. Its not like he has not had opportunities. He needs to execute better.
Maybe he needs to concentrate as he might have gotten lost on defense and did not hit his assignments. Sometimes its not physical.
Nobody doubts the physical tools he has and his upside with them.
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1/12/2023  8:06 AM
Lakers have 2 second round picks this year. Their own plus Chicago’s. I don’t see why he isn’t moved for one of those. The lakers like him and need talent. He’s a better gamble for them than anything else they can do. They can get reddish and still have the other 2nd rounder.
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1/12/2023  8:55 AM
Knixkik wrote:Lakers have 2 second round picks this year. Their own plus Chicago’s. I don’t see why he isn’t moved for one of those. The lakers like him and need talent. He’s a better gamble for them than anything else they can do. They can get reddish and still have the other 2nd rounder.

I think Brock is playing hardball with those two second rounders. The Knicks need an influx based off the number of second rounders they gave up in past trades and the NBA docking them one because of Brunson. Also don't think it's a coincidence the future first that the Knicks used to get Reddish turns into two second rounders if it doesn't convey by 2025. I think the Knicks are trying to get back the perceived value on the pick they used to get Reddish.

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1/12/2023  9:15 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Lakers have 2 second round picks this year. Their own plus Chicago’s. I don’t see why he isn’t moved for one of those. The lakers like him and need talent. He’s a better gamble for them than anything else they can do. They can get reddish and still have the other 2nd rounder.

I think Brock is playing hardball with those two second rounders. The Knicks need an influx based off the number of second rounders they gave up in past trades and the NBA docking them one because of Brunson. Also don't think it's a coincidence the future first that the Knicks used to get Reddish turns into two second rounders if it doesn't convey by 2025. I think the Knicks are trying to get back the perceived value on the pick they used to get Reddish.

Agreed. I just think the compromise for the Knicks is getting just one of those picks. It’s cutting their losses only slightly. Although they probably prefer a future second round pick, like one in 2025 to replace the Brunson loss.
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1/12/2023  10:01 AM
If Reddish is lucky, he'll wind up on a lotto team that doesnt mind giving Cam lots of playing time. Time to become more consistent. Change his rep as a player.
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1/12/2023  10:21 AM
Knixkik wrote:Lakers have 2 second round picks this year. Their own plus Chicago’s. I don’t see why he isn’t moved for one of those. The lakers like him and need talent. He’s a better gamble for them than anything else they can do. They can get reddish and still have the other 2nd rounder.

Because the Lakers have not decided if they are all in or not, meaning do they want cap space next offseason or should they make trades for players that extend beyond that and shoot for a championship for the next 2 years with that group of guys.

Otherwise the Lakers would be just throwing those picks away cause Cam is either released or has a $17M cap hold and you can't do diddly with that type of cap hold maneuver-wise.

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1/12/2023  10:22 AM
GustavBahler wrote:If Reddish is lucky, he'll wind up on a lotto team that doesnt mind giving Cam lots of playing time. Time to become more consistent. Change his rep as a player.

Not for nothing but that's the type of role Cam was set up for here and he couldn't hold to it. He prob wanted to be the feature guy.

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1/12/2023  10:26 AM
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:If Reddish is lucky, he'll wind up on a lotto team that doesnt mind giving Cam lots of playing time. Time to become more consistent. Change his rep as a player.

Not for nothing but that's the type of role Cam was set up for here and he couldn't hold to it. He prob wanted to be the feature guy.

Thibs wants to make the playoffs, so he wasnt going to give Cam the time he clearly needs to become more consistent.

A tanking for Wembanyana lottery team should be more patient.
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1/12/2023  10:29 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/12/2023  10:29 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:If Reddish is lucky, he'll wind up on a lotto team that doesnt mind giving Cam lots of playing time. Time to become more consistent. Change his rep as a player.

Not for nothing but that's the type of role Cam was set up for here and he couldn't hold to it. He prob wanted to be the feature guy.

Thibs wants to make the playoffs, so he wasnt going to give Cam the time he clearly needs to become more consistent.

A tanking for Wembanyana lottery team should be more patient.

He had the starting role and he fubar'ed it. Life comes at you fast some times and Cam missed it.

And not for nothing, if Thibs was just all-in on making the playoffs, Cam would be getting spot minutes on a depleted bench with zero wing players.

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1/12/2023  10:31 AM
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:If Reddish is lucky, he'll wind up on a lotto team that doesnt mind giving Cam lots of playing time. Time to become more consistent. Change his rep as a player.

Not for nothing but that's the type of role Cam was set up for here and he couldn't hold to it. He prob wanted to be the feature guy.

I question what team has a real role for him in a rebuilding situation. Maybe Detroit in the rotation ahead of knox?
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martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:If Reddish is lucky, he'll wind up on a lotto team that doesnt mind giving Cam lots of playing time. Time to become more consistent. Change his rep as a player.

Not for nothing but that's the type of role Cam was set up for here and he couldn't hold to it. He prob wanted to be the feature guy.

I question what team has a real role for him in a rebuilding situation. Maybe Detroit in the rotation ahead of knox?


My understanding is that Knox doesn't really get minutes. I thought about Charlotte, maybe. The lottery teams this year aren't as putrid in previous years and I'm having a hard figuring which of them would have the patience to give Cam a long leash.
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1/12/2023  10:38 AM
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:If Reddish is lucky, he'll wind up on a lotto team that doesnt mind giving Cam lots of playing time. Time to become more consistent. Change his rep as a player.

Not for nothing but that's the type of role Cam was set up for here and he couldn't hold to it. He prob wanted to be the feature guy.

Thibs wants to make the playoffs, so he wasnt going to give Cam the time he clearly needs to become more consistent.

A tanking for Wembanyana lottery team should be more patient.

He had the starting role and he fubar'ed it. Life comes at you fast some times and Cam missed it.

And not for nothing, if Thibs was just all-in on making the playoffs, Cam would be getting spot minutes on a depleted bench with zero wing players.


When I say "the PT he clearly needs" Its because the PT Thibs gave him didnt do the trick. He needs more time to develop.

The minutes Cam got were early in the season. Knowing what we know about Thibs, I seriously doubt that he is thinking about anything but making the playoffs. Its in his DNA.
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