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looking at this roster I cant help but think what a hell of a good job this FO has done
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fishmike
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10/26/2022  3:56 PM
I mean look at the current state of our roster, coaching and draft:


Coaching wins: Thibs, Johnnie Bryant

"We just signed new long contracts core 4:"
Randle 28
Brunson 26
Mitch 24
RJ 22

Pipeline/Rotation guys with upside:
IQ 23
Obi 24
IHart 24
Cam 23
Grimes 22

Stop gap:
Rose/Fournier

We'll see:
Keels
McBride
Sims

incoming draft assets
Rights: Rokus

FRPS:
2023 - Own; DAL 11-30; DET 19-30 (via HOU to OKC); WAS 15-30 (via HOU to OKC)

2024 - Own; DAL 11-30 if not already settled; DET 19-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled; WAS 13-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled

2025 - Own; DAL 11-30 if not already settled; DET 14-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled; WAS 11-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled; MIL 5-30 (via NOP to POR to DET)

2026 - Own; DET 12-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled; WAS 9-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled

2027 - Own; DET 10-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled


TLDR: We are ready to start winning now, and after Randle(28) and Brunson(26) we have 7 guys getting rotation minutes who are 24 or under, all our picks, at least 2-4 extra FRPs, a proven coaching staff and no albatross contracts attached to prima donna ageing players.

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ToddTT
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10/26/2022  5:00 PM
I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.
Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
GustavBahler
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10/26/2022  5:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2022  5:10 PM
ToddTT wrote:I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.

The thought crossed my mind as well. Lakers could use Randle. Dont believe Randle would mind going back to LA, playing with LeBron. Maybe it includes a pick swap.

The big question would be who the FO would target, with the cap room. Will more moves be made, to bring in not one but two stars?

Im liking what Im seeing from Randle. But this would be a deal that works for everyone, if the FO follows up with the right move(s).
fishmike
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10/26/2022  5:11 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
ToddTT wrote:I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.

The thought crossed my mind as well. Lakers could use Randle. Dont believe Randle would mind going back to LA, playing with LeBron. Maybe it includes a pick swap.

The big question would be who the FO would target, with the cap room. Will more moves be made, to bring in not one but two stars?

Im liking what Im seeing from Randle. But this would be a deal that works for everyone, if the FO follows up with the right move(s).


Sorry... Im missing the part where someone explains how trading our best player is good thing for us?
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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10/26/2022  5:11 PM
I believe the FO's biggest strength has been the lack of panic moves. Only striking when the iron is hot.
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10/26/2022  5:13 PM
As I said, depends on who the FO brings in.

fishmike wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ToddTT wrote:I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.

The thought crossed my mind as well. Lakers could use Randle. Dont believe Randle would mind going back to LA, playing with LeBron. Maybe it includes a pick swap.

The big question would be who the FO would target, with the cap room. Will more moves be made, to bring in not one but two stars?

Im liking what Im seeing from Randle. But this would be a deal that works for everyone, if the FO follows up with the right move(s).


Sorry... Im missing the part where someone explains how trading our best player is good thing for us?
GustavBahler
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10/26/2022  5:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2022  5:47 PM
Took a quick look at the 23' FA list. The only one that would really make a deal worth it is LaMelo Ball, and the Hornets have a club option. If there was a way of getting better by trading Randle, it probably would be for a player, not cap room. Right now I dont see a deal that makes us better, but the FO might. We'll see..

Terence Ross and Robin Lopez are UFAs next year, I believe. Wouldnt mind the FO making a run at them.

GustavBahler wrote:As I said, depends on who the FO brings in.

fishmike wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ToddTT wrote:I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.

The thought crossed my mind as well. Lakers could use Randle. Dont believe Randle would mind going back to LA, playing with LeBron. Maybe it includes a pick swap.

The big question would be who the FO would target, with the cap room. Will more moves be made, to bring in not one but two stars?

Im liking what Im seeing from Randle. But this would be a deal that works for everyone, if the FO follows up with the right move(s).


Sorry... Im missing the part where someone explains how trading our best player is good thing for us?
ToddTT
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10/26/2022  5:54 PM
If they trade for Westbrook I’m carrying my TV to the curb. I was joking, with what I thought would be a worst case scenario.

I’m happy with the front office and the team as well. I might even forgive them for the Kemba debacle.

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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10/26/2022  6:01 PM
fishmike wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ToddTT wrote:I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.

The thought crossed my mind as well. Lakers could use Randle. Dont believe Randle would mind going back to LA, playing with LeBron. Maybe it includes a pick swap.

The big question would be who the FO would target, with the cap room. Will more moves be made, to bring in not one but two stars?

Im liking what Im seeing from Randle. But this would be a deal that works for everyone, if the FO follows up with the right move(s).


Sorry... Im missing the part where someone explains how trading our best player is good thing for us?

Would do you mean? He didn't say anything about trading Brunson.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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10/26/2022  6:08 PM
Don't know how credible this is, but RJ has a history of starting slow. Not ready to panic yet.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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10/26/2022  7:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2022  7:12 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Don't know how credible this is, but RJ has a history of starting slow. Not ready to panic yet.

It’s fair that guarding the best player every night will impact shooting and scoring. It’s much different than guarding an off-ball player. But grimes coming back will be so important for this. The same way bullock was. Barrett shot his best with bullock guarding top opposing wing players. The same idea should be implemented with grimes. Better days are ahead for Barrett.
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10/26/2022  8:12 PM
So he is tired after 3 games? Wow. Guess he strained himself something awful with that giant wheelbarrow of cash he got.
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10/26/2022  10:04 PM
fishmike wrote:I mean look at the current state of our roster, coaching and draft:


Coaching wins: Thibs, Johnnie Bryant

"We just signed new long contracts core 4:"
Randle 28
Brunson 26
Mitch 24
RJ 22

Pipeline/Rotation guys with upside:
IQ 23
Obi 24
IHart 24
Cam 23
Grimes 22

Stop gap:
Rose/Fournier

We'll see:
Keels
McBride
Sims

incoming draft assets
Rights: Rokus

FRPS:
2023 - Own; DAL 11-30; DET 19-30 (via HOU to OKC); WAS 15-30 (via HOU to OKC)

2024 - Own; DAL 11-30 if not already settled; DET 19-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled; WAS 13-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled

2025 - Own; DAL 11-30 if not already settled; DET 14-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled; WAS 11-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled; MIL 5-30 (via NOP to POR to DET)

2026 - Own; DET 12-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled; WAS 9-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled

2027 - Own; DET 10-30 (via HOU to OKC) if not already settled


TLDR: We are ready to start winning now, and after Randle(28) and Brunson(26) we have 7 guys getting rotation minutes who are 24 or under, all our picks, at least 2-4 extra FRPs, a proven coaching staff and no albatross contracts attached to prima donna ageing players.

Thnx for this post Mike very informative enjoyed the read.

Future looks bright and the Knicks are currently fun to watch again. Jets and Knicks both fun for me again? Very strange things are happening lol
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10/27/2022  7:32 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Took a quick look at the 23' FA list. The only one that would really make a deal worth it is LaMelo Ball, and the Hornets have a club option. If there was a way of getting better by trading Randle, it probably would be for a player, not cap room. Right now I dont see a deal that makes us better, but the FO might. We'll see..

Terence Ross and Robin Lopez are UFAs next year, I believe. Wouldnt mind the FO making a run at them.

GustavBahler wrote:As I said, depends on who the FO brings in.

fishmike wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ToddTT wrote:I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.

The thought crossed my mind as well. Lakers could use Randle. Dont believe Randle would mind going back to LA, playing with LeBron. Maybe it includes a pick swap.

The big question would be who the FO would target, with the cap room. Will more moves be made, to bring in not one but two stars?

Im liking what Im seeing from Randle. But this would be a deal that works for everyone, if the FO follows up with the right move(s).


Sorry... Im missing the part where someone explains how trading our best player is good thing for us?

I don’t know how Lamelo would work with Brunson already here. DM was different because he could probably adjust to becoming a full time shooting guard and probably would like that. Lamelo is strictly a pg
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10/27/2022  8:33 AM
FO has done a masterful job. It remains to be seen if it made a mistake on Mitchell, but we really will not know until we see what Grimes becomes. If Grimes turns into a consistent 18-20 point, high efficiency 3 pt and defensive specialist, then he makes more sense for this team than Mitchell, who is a terrible defender. Even if they missed on Mitchell, the FO still has done a better job than any FO we have had over the past 10 years.
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10/27/2022  9:07 AM
ToddTT wrote:I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.

Zero chance that happens imo.
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Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Took a quick look at the 23' FA list. The only one that would really make a deal worth it is LaMelo Ball, and the Hornets have a club option. If there was a way of getting better by trading Randle, it probably would be for a player, not cap room. Right now I dont see a deal that makes us better, but the FO might. We'll see..

Terence Ross and Robin Lopez are UFAs next year, I believe. Wouldnt mind the FO making a run at them.

GustavBahler wrote:As I said, depends on who the FO brings in.

fishmike wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ToddTT wrote:I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.

The thought crossed my mind as well. Lakers could use Randle. Dont believe Randle would mind going back to LA, playing with LeBron. Maybe it includes a pick swap.

The big question would be who the FO would target, with the cap room. Will more moves be made, to bring in not one but two stars?

Im liking what Im seeing from Randle. But this would be a deal that works for everyone, if the FO follows up with the right move(s).


Sorry... Im missing the part where someone explains how trading our best player is good thing for us?

I don’t know how Lamelo would work with Brunson already here. DM was different because he could probably adjust to becoming a full time shooting guard and probably would like that. Lamelo is strictly a pg

Yeah, but we know JB can play off ball from his years with Luka. I'm just not sure 'melo is a winning player.

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10/27/2022  10:06 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:Don't know how credible this is, but RJ has a history of starting slow. Not ready to panic yet.

I thought for a second these meaningless baseless clearly drama driven rumors would end after Berman retired. Guess not.

Yeah, I'm really going to believe RJ, a 22 year old kid who lives and breaths his craft is tired. Give me a break!

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10/27/2022  10:34 AM
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:Don't know how credible this is, but RJ has a history of starting slow. Not ready to panic yet.

I thought for a second these meaningless baseless clearly drama driven rumors would end after Berman retired. Guess not.

Yeah, I'm really going to believe RJ, a 22 year old kid who lives and breaths his craft is tired. Give me a break!

Its not that he is “Tired” but lets be real, it still is expending energy and mental concentration. Granted the quote is “people around the knicks”. Who is that? Us? Coaches? Scouts? LOL………
He is also in the team concept of playing at a faster pace and off a new PG. Last year it was his game.
excuse or reasoning?
We talking about 2-3 more shots per game made. His rebounding, playmaking, pace and defense are all very very good.
He is taking good shots.
I love that he took the ball, got fouled and iced the game nailing two FT’s last night. The kid did not hide. Clyde winced a bit when that happend as he wanted the better FT’s guys to get the ball. High drama, RJ got it done.
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BigDaddyG wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Took a quick look at the 23' FA list. The only one that would really make a deal worth it is LaMelo Ball, and the Hornets have a club option. If there was a way of getting better by trading Randle, it probably would be for a player, not cap room. Right now I dont see a deal that makes us better, but the FO might. We'll see..

Terence Ross and Robin Lopez are UFAs next year, I believe. Wouldnt mind the FO making a run at them.

GustavBahler wrote:As I said, depends on who the FO brings in.

fishmike wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
ToddTT wrote:I think they’re setting up a trade for Westbrook.

The thought crossed my mind as well. Lakers could use Randle. Dont believe Randle would mind going back to LA, playing with LeBron. Maybe it includes a pick swap.

The big question would be who the FO would target, with the cap room. Will more moves be made, to bring in not one but two stars?

Im liking what Im seeing from Randle. But this would be a deal that works for everyone, if the FO follows up with the right move(s).


Sorry... Im missing the part where someone explains how trading our best player is good thing for us?

I don’t know how Lamelo would work with Brunson already here. DM was different because he could probably adjust to becoming a full time shooting guard and probably would like that. Lamelo is strictly a pg

Yeah, but we know JB can play off ball from his years with Luka. I'm just not sure 'melo is a winning player.

True. Kidd transitioned to full time 3 and D SG last 4-5 years of his career
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