Anyone unhappy with players run?

SergioNYK wrote:I've loved the rotations thus far. Especially IQ being the first guard off the bench and limiting Rose to under 15 mpg. Save Rose for the second half of the season and playoffs!

Seeing this as well. We have come a long way. Remember when some thought not having Rose would lead to many problems. Not only on second unit but also in finishing games.
Still think Rose will be key against the better teams. Easy to get lost in how guys play against some of these weaker teams. Although comforting that we are not losing to them. Like we did so many times last year.

KnickDanger wrote:Good points made. So far so good I'd say. The most interesting to me is Rose -- I suspect it is to preserve him plus see what else you have. The bigger question to me is maybe he is cooked? I not saying so nor do I think so but is it a kind of Bill Walton with the Celts kind of situation? (Old folks can chime in!)

Don't think he is cooked. I actually think Rose has transitioned well into the type of guard that can have more longevity. His three point shot seems a lot more sound mechanically. He has shown more confidence in it. Important in today's NBA. Also, think he has value in an era where these young guns sometimes play too quickly. He manages a game and flow well. Think he was always gas on the pedal type of player and has now matured.
However, agree with you, the youth movement may squeeze him out eventually.
As for Walton, did not see him play much but was he not riddled with career ending injuries?

HofstraBBall wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:Good points made. So far so good I'd say. The most interesting to me is Rose -- I suspect it is to preserve him plus see what else you have. The bigger question to me is maybe he is cooked? I not saying so nor do I think so but is it a kind of Bill Walton with the Celts kind of situation? (Old folks can chime in!)

Don't think he is cooked. I actually think Rose has transitioned well into the type of guard that can have more longevity. His three point shot seems a lot more sound mechanically. He has shown more confidence in it. Important in today's NBA. Also, think he has value in an era where these young guns sometimes play too quickly. He manages a game and flow well. Think he was always gas on the pedal type of player and has now matured.
However, agree with you, the youth movement may squeeze him out eventually.
As for Walton, did not see him play much but was he not riddled with career ending injuries?

Yeah, Rose is still moving pretty well. He's lost a few steps, but he came into the league several steps faster than 99% of the NBA. He can afford to lose a step and be effective. There's no pressure for Rose to get his rhythm back immediately with JB Smooth here.

fishmike wrote:

SergioNYK wrote:I've loved the rotations thus far. Especially IQ being the first guard off the bench and limiting Rose to under 15 mpg. Save Rose for the second half of the season and playoffs!

I thought when Grimes comes back that IQ's minutes would be threatened the most but it might Rose's minutes. I think everyone knows what Rose can do and maybe he gets a token minutes run at best.

Rose enjoys being a mentor. Having Rose sit while we play 10 guys and win games with youth and have Rose rested and ready for when someone turns an ankle could be a wonderful thing to play out this year... we'll see how it plays out.

Thibs certainly appears invested in giving IQ as big a role as he can. Nobody knows better than the coaches. He says it all the time... "we see what the guys do and can do in practice"

Agree.
Good coaches communicate to players what their role will be. I am sure that Thibs and Rose have discussed the mentoring aspect. Especially with Taj no longer here. Would also imagine Thibs telling Rose that he wants to keep him fresh, healthy and ready for the bigger games/playoffs. Will be interesting to see how Rose is used in games where the transition game may not be as affected.
I like IQ in games where pace can outgun the opponents. Detroit and Orlando can be beaten with pace. Their defense did not get back on transition very well and had several missed assignments. Think Rose will help against teams that get us in a half court game more.

I have been pleasantly surprised by Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk on the bench.
It seems to me this guy never misses.
Curious to see more of his game as the season unfolds.

HofstraBBall wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:Good points made. So far so good I'd say. The most interesting to me is Rose -- I suspect it is to preserve him plus see what else you have. The bigger question to me is maybe he is cooked? I not saying so nor do I think so but is it a kind of Bill Walton with the Celts kind of situation? (Old folks can chime in!)

Don't think he is cooked. I actually think Rose has transitioned well into the type of guard that can have more longevity. His three point shot seems a lot more sound mechanically. He has shown more confidence in it. Important in today's NBA. Also, think he has value in an era where these young guns sometimes play too quickly. He manages a game and flow well. Think he was always gas on the pedal type of player and has now matured.
However, agree with you, the youth movement may squeeze him out eventually.
As for Walton, did not see him play much but was he not riddled with career ending injuries?

HofstraBBall wrote:Good to see that Cam has earned the minutes he is getting.
Surprised about the minutes Rose is getting.
Is it because Rose is being brought around cautiously or Thibs prefers other rotations without him?
Randle has been busting his ass off. The loss of weight seems to be a real difference maker.
However, he looked gassed towards the end of the first and third quarters. Reason for a lot less movement on offense and settling for threes.
Would like to see Randle more around 28-30 a game.
Think Toppin needs to be close to 20. He has earned it and the pace is faster when he is in there.
Hart has been getting a lot of minutes. Mostly due to MR in foul trouble.
Would like to see Sims get some of those minutes. Really like Harts half court defense and decision making (Of course his GF too) but seems to be behind the pace in the second unit. Think Sims would keep up with the pace better and be a better fit in first unit if MR comes out early for fouls.
RJs minutes need to come down. Feel with Grimes back that will be the case. Hoping Cam still gets minutes despite Grimes being back. Would not mind if some of those minutes came from RJ. Still believe in RJ being the future but see no reason for him to get 35 plus. Especially if he doesn't have it going.
Feel EFs minutes are where they should be. As are Brunson's and the rest of the crew.
Think Thibs has done a good job handing them out and has also done a good job rewarding the right players for good play.
It will get tougher for Thibs once Grimes is back though.

Anyone unhappy with players run?

I think for Drose the plan is to get him through the season and be productive in April/ may. We are seeing the transition to Quickley as full time 6th man role in the meantime. That’s the goal as Rose is definitely not a long term fixture due to age. Quickley is likely viewed as a long term 6th man and will get an extension offer next summer reflecting market value for that.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:Good to see that Cam has earned the minutes he is getting.
Surprised about the minutes Rose is getting.
Is it because Rose is being brought around cautiously or Thibs prefers other rotations without him?
Randle has been busting his ass off. The loss of weight seems to be a real difference maker.
However, he looked gassed towards the end of the first and third quarters. Reason for a lot less movement on offense and settling for threes.
Would like to see Randle more around 28-30 a game.
Think Toppin needs to be close to 20. He has earned it and the pace is faster when he is in there.
Hart has been getting a lot of minutes. Mostly due to MR in foul trouble.
Would like to see Sims get some of those minutes. Really like Harts half court defense and decision making (Of course his GF too) but seems to be behind the pace in the second unit. Think Sims would keep up with the pace better and be a better fit in first unit if MR comes out early for fouls.
RJs minutes need to come down. Feel with Grimes back that will be the case. Hoping Cam still gets minutes despite Grimes being back. Would not mind if some of those minutes came from RJ. Still believe in RJ being the future but see no reason for him to get 35 plus. Especially if he doesn't have it going.
Feel EFs minutes are where they should be. As are Brunson's and the rest of the crew.
Think Thibs has done a good job handing them out and has also done a good job rewarding the right players for good play.
It will get tougher for Thibs once Grimes is back though.

Anyone unhappy with players run?

I think for Drose the plan is to get him through the season and be productive in April/ may. We are seeing the transition to Quickley as full time 6th man role in the meantime. That’s the goal as Rose is definitely not a long term fixture due to age. Quickley is likely viewed as a long term 6th man and will get an extension offer next summer reflecting market value for that.

IQ may have some competition from Grimes for that 6th man. If course, until Grimes allegedly takes over the starting role from EF.
Do agree, IQ is the long term commitment. Curious to see what that spells out to in dollars and length of contract.

The 6th man role is really a playmakers role. I don’t see grimes ever being that. He’s a true 3&D wing who will be a starter if he develops further. IQ seems pigeon holed into a 6th man role based on his combo guard skill set, for better or for worse.

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