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Caseloads
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7/11/2022  11:15 AM
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7/11/2022  11:20 AM
Nice, basically he put himself in the same level as MJ.
LMAO.
JA hasn't proven anything. Is he even as good as John Stockton or Gary Payton? Were those guys "average guys"?
Duck off, Ja.
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7/11/2022  11:22 AM
Morant makes himself sound really uneducated and dumb. Know your history and show some respect kid!
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7/11/2022  11:36 AM
man that NBA would have eaten today's pansies like pieces of **** for breakfast

Here's a question... which set of rules? Loves to see today's plays get their space and shots off in the NBA of the 90s

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7/11/2022  12:18 PM
Morant is great, but is he any better than a young Derek Rose? The way he crashes to the rim, he's a serious knee injury waiting to happen. You feel?

PS - the Grizzlies were 21-6 without Ja last year.
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foosballnick wrote:Morant is great, but is he any better than a young Derek Rose? The way he crashes to the rim, he's a serious knee injury waiting to happen. You feel?

PS - the Grizzlies were 21-6 without Ja last year.

He does have a point The talent today is unreal. But the physicality isn't close. Morant wouldn't be near as effective because guys like Oak would ensure his face met ground at least 5X per game.

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7/11/2022  12:29 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
foosballnick wrote:Morant is great, but is he any better than a young Derek Rose? The way he crashes to the rim, he's a serious knee injury waiting to happen. You feel?

PS - the Grizzlies were 21-6 without Ja last year.

He does have a point The talent today is unreal. But the physicality isn't close. Morant wouldn't be near as effective because guys like Oak would ensure his face met ground at least 5X per game.

Guys today would adjust to the physicality. If you really look at most of the 90s PGs, they were small and did fine.
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7/11/2022  12:36 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/11/2022  6:47 PM
Oak would not make this NBA. Love the guy, and his heart but different era.
Jordans accomplishments and particulars made him legend. It made him special vs. Dominque wilkens and others.
Time, the era, pre social media, the marketing, and so little about his personal life made him that.
I think Jah speaks to the talent and athletic ablility, not the accomplishment. That I can go with but its all debatable.
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7/11/2022  12:54 PM
Knixkik wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
foosballnick wrote:Morant is great, but is he any better than a young Derek Rose? The way he crashes to the rim, he's a serious knee injury waiting to happen. You feel?

PS - the Grizzlies were 21-6 without Ja last year.

He does have a point The talent today is unreal. But the physicality isn't close. Morant wouldn't be near as effective because guys like Oak would ensure his face met ground at least 5X per game.

Guys today would adjust to the physicality. If you really look at most of the 90s PGs, they were small and did fine.


Big difference in toughness. Guys like Zeke and Stockton were often the initiators of the contact. These cupcakes have no idea would a real hand check is like. Don't get me wrong, talent always wins out. But these guys would not be able to stroll down the paint as easily as they do now. Of course, I can't envision someone like Mark Jackson playing today either.
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7/11/2022  2:58 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
foosballnick wrote:Morant is great, but is he any better than a young Derek Rose? The way he crashes to the rim, he's a serious knee injury waiting to happen. You feel?

PS - the Grizzlies were 21-6 without Ja last year.

He does have a point The talent today is unreal. But the physicality isn't close. Morant wouldn't be near as effective because guys like Oak would ensure his face met ground at least 5X per game.

Guys today would adjust to the physicality. If you really look at most of the 90s PGs, they were small and did fine.


Big difference in toughness. Guys like Zeke and Stockton were often the initiators of the contact. These cupcakes have no idea would a real hand check is like. Don't get me wrong, talent always wins out. But these guys would not be able to stroll down the paint as easily as they do now. Of course, I can't envision someone like Mark Jackson playing today either.

I can see Mark Jackson playing today. You see how Brunson took his man down to the post Mark Jackson would be able to do that and some. Mark could pass really well from the post. You guys forget Bomb Squad Knicks? Jackson thrived in that offense as well.
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7/11/2022  3:06 PM
It would’ve been a much harder game for Morant. Maybe he could’ve been a form of iversen but that’s pretty high level. Ja would have trouble w hand checking and physicality. He’s a great player. There are great players from every era but mj at 6-6 with complete ball and body control speed agility basketball was a simplistic game for him. Without hand checking he prob would’ve been 45 a game 50% shooting. Jordan in his prime was the best player. Kenton a fair 2 w Kobe Duncan Hakeem shaq. There are no dominant centers like we remember. I think ja Should say I can’t really give a good answer but I know I can play w anyone — that’s fair
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7/11/2022  3:15 PM
the point that there are more stars now - maybe true. But I kinda think MJ is still his own level.

Regardless of level of play - I think today's NBA - because of it's billions has just a lot more talent than back when - skill wise, etc. Not sure guys like Ken Bannister (love him to death) would even sniff a G League game.
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7/11/2022  3:21 PM
Even MJ would have struggled to beat today's GSW...yamsayin?
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7/11/2022  4:10 PM
Young ignorance.....

Does he realize that all these so-called MJ likes cannot win a chip unless they team up in threes?
They also do not like to be touched when going to the basket.

MJ would have kicked Ja's ass.

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7/11/2022  4:12 PM
franco12 wrote:the point that there are more stars now - maybe true. But I kinda think MJ is still his own level.

Regardless of level of play - I think today's NBA - because of it's billions has just a lot more talent than back when - skill wise, etc. Not sure guys like Ken Bannister (love him to death) would even sniff a G League game.

There were plenty of stars during MJ's time. Several on his own team. What made him so great was that he made them look like "average dudes" you feel.

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7/11/2022  4:33 PM
Wow. Kinda lost me as a fan of Ja. Dude is either delusional or ignorant.
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7/11/2022  6:00 PM
what a total bunch of ****ing bull****
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7/11/2022  6:03 PM
80's basketball player under the same rules as the 90's and was stylistically similar to the kind we can see now with less 3's. Riley coached Showtime before the Knicks, no? 90's games are pretty unwatchable. Look at those Jazz- Bulls Finals and ask yourself how many of those guys would be in the league now. 90's were a low point of NBA ball, sentimentality aside.
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7/11/2022  6:40 PM
gradyandrew wrote:80's basketball player under the same rules as the 90's and was stylistically similar to the kind we can see now with less 3's. Riley coached Showtime before the Knicks, no? 90's games are pretty unwatchable. Look at those Jazz- Bulls Finals and ask yourself how many of those guys would be in the league now. 90's were a low point of NBA ball, sentimentality aside.

Those were the highest rated finals. Jazz Bulls series. Have you seen the drop in rating recently it’s ghastly.
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7/11/2022  6:48 PM
Morant shortchanges Jordan's defensive skills. Handchecking or not. MJ had great anticipation, some of the best footwork on either side of the court, ever.

Combine that with his length. Talk a little sht to him, and fuggedabouit. He could post up JA all day. Still cross him over at will.
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