One thing I'm looking at, at 4.5 million the cap hold for the 11 pick is significant. I wouldnt be surprised to see the Knicks use that pick to sweeten the pot for a team picking up Burks and/ or Noel and then moving back in the draft to get Brunson some more money.

fishmike wrote:https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/report-new-multi-year-deal-with-knicks-looming-for-mitchell-robinson/
Good... letting him walk for nothing wasnt doing anything to help our team

agree with that, a kid M.Robinson whom embraced NY with less talent but a Superstar heart. He wants to be in New York counts.
It's tough his durability is low however maybe that will change one day as a Knick

Allanfan20 wrote:

fishmike wrote:https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/report-new-multi-year-deal-with-knicks-looming-for-mitchell-robinson/
Good... letting him walk for nothing wasnt doing anything to help our team

Agreed. We can all agree that his overall offensive game basically sucks but letting him go for nothing is mindless. Despite what certain posters on here insist, a defensive presence down low is still crucial.

Hopefully Mitch proves out to be more durable than Noel (not a tall task) but also manages to grow some post moves (a truly tall task). Sims needs to improve as well and move up the food chain even if we don't part ways with on the DL Noel.

martin wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:Anyone know a list of teams trade exceptions?

One thing I'm looking at, at 4.5 million the cap hold for the 11 pick is significant. I wouldnt be surprised to see the Knicks use that pick to sweeten the pot for a team picking up Burks and/ or Noel and then moving back in the draft to get Brunson some more money.

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/listing-the-current-nba-trade-exceptions/

Thank you Martin!

Kemet wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

fishmike wrote:https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/report-new-multi-year-deal-with-knicks-looming-for-mitchell-robinson/
Good... letting him walk for nothing wasnt doing anything to help our team

Agreed. We can all agree that his overall offensive game basically sucks but letting him go for nothing is mindless. Despite what certain posters on here insist, a defensive presence down low is still crucial.

Hopefully Mitch proves out to be more durable than Noel (not a tall task) but also manages to grow some post moves (a truly tall task). Sims needs to improve as well and move up the food chain even if we don't part ways with on the DL Noel.

MitchRob for $60M for 4 years is to-to cheap! MitchRob is a double-double 2 block center under 28 minute player.
One of the strongest reasons I want Randle traded in offseason were watching him all season deny giving the ball to a 75% FG shooter MitchRob on Mitch final contract season (Mitch receiving several 3 FGA a game). Com'on! Throughout the season it looked like the only time MitchRob was happy on the court was when he was in a lineup having D.Rose leadership, instead of Randle or Barrett controlling the ball on offense.

I like seeing MitchRob & Obi in a lineup having Quickley controlling the ball and tempo.

He never once averaged double digits in rebounds or points. Where are you getting the double double double stuff from?

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/report-new-multi-year-deal-with-knicks-looming-for-mitchell-robinson/
Good... letting him walk for nothing wasnt doing anything to help our team

Good to hear. We need to keep Mitch. Some may think he is not worth it but the intangibles are important on every good team. Most point to what he can not do while ignoring what an important part he is to a good defense. IF healthy, MR is a key piece. Think this will improve with strength training and getting better at not falling for all those fakes that get him up in the air and in compromising positions.

I hope Mitch comes back at no more than ~$13M. Love Mitch on the team in the short term, don't think he necessarily fits on a deep playoff team but that's years away anyway

Allanfan20 wrote:

Kemet wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

fishmike wrote:https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/report-new-multi-year-deal-with-knicks-looming-for-mitchell-robinson/
Good... letting him walk for nothing wasnt doing anything to help our team

Agreed. We can all agree that his overall offensive game basically sucks but letting him go for nothing is mindless. Despite what certain posters on here insist, a defensive presence down low is still crucial.

Hopefully Mitch proves out to be more durable than Noel (not a tall task) but also manages to grow some post moves (a truly tall task). Sims needs to improve as well and move up the food chain even if we don't part ways with on the DL Noel.

MitchRob for $60M for 4 years is to-to cheap! MitchRob is a double-double 2 block center under 28 minute player.
One of the strongest reasons I want Randle traded in offseason were watching him all season deny giving the ball to a 75% FG shooter MitchRob on Mitch final contract season (Mitch receiving several 3 FGA a game). Com'on! Throughout the season it looked like the only time MitchRob was happy on the court was when he was in a lineup having D.Rose leadership, instead of Randle or Barrett controlling the ball on offense.

I like seeing MitchRob & Obi in a lineup having Quickley controlling the ball and tempo.

He never once averaged double digits in rebounds or points. Where are you getting the double double double stuff from?

So you don’t think Mitch can on paper avg a double double next 3 years when he’s 25-28 in his prime?

We are paying for future performance

BigDaddyG wrote:

Nalod wrote:Rumor mills as discussed via KFS was at or near the 11mm mark. THis is intersting as many thought he was holding out for greater than the 12.5mm knicks can only offer up to and some of you were keen on 15-18mil.
No need to call it out. Just interesting if this comes to be the wide range between what happens and what fans thought.
I like any deal were he plays to his contract and if opportunity arises either via trade or internal growth he plays to his contract and is a trade chip.
He might not be the guy that is on the court when we win a chip, but part of the long road of good fortune that gets us there.

That would be a bargain IMHO. That's Timelord money. I thought Mitch would get a little more since that Timelord deal is a little undervalued now. Detroit seemingly changing it's course toward bigger fish also helps

Ayton is restricted so PHX can match. That can force a trade scenario not just to detroit, but elsewhere. We did assume if Detroit was interested, it would be because knicks were handicapped by the 4 year 55mil limit of extending him and that he was holding out for more than that. We we might be learning is knicks did not have that amount on the table. Now we all get the hindsight thing right? His offense is limited and prior to this year injury prone. Foot was untested and he came into camp unable to fully go and basically got in shape after the season started and team did not want to pay up for a guy with an untested foot. ALl the while this season they negotiated and still are. While that happens his agent (whome ever it is) can read the market and guide him to more money if its there. That leads us to the Detroit thing. For all we know Ayton is a possibility if PHX won't go up to a certain limit and he becomes untradable if every other team things similar. Same for Mitch, Detroit can pay him more than us and it gives them leverage. The Grant dump is curious and speaks to making a run at both Brunson and Ayton. Or Brunson and Mitch. Or Beal if he walks. Or take on a bigger contract in a trade for the 5, or any other deal. For that matter they can take on Freaking Westbrook. But They did not have to clear cap for mitch. Or Brunson. But did for both.

Not sure this really answers anything but if rumors are true then mitch is 12.5 mil or less and if you think thats a bargain, thats cool. But its likely his market value and thats it.
few big names go out without compensation coming back when restricted. I'd think PHX would be similar. Sarvar might be a piece of ****, but is he not saavy to anticipate this?

Funny piece of history, it was Steve Kerr as Suns GM under Sarver that chased MDA out of town and made some very questionable moves. Lets just say his HOF won't include being suns GM. Hey, nobody is perfect!!!