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Quickley not in slump. He’s not very good
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BRIGGS
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2/12/2022  9:15 PM
And he’s costing us close games. Shtty shtty performance again
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2/12/2022  9:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2022  9:17 PM
I just found today, that we picked him over Desmond Bane

I knew about Obi over Haliburton.

Horrible draft.
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2/12/2022  9:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2022  9:20 PM
He can’t play Pg it seems. It forces him to overthink and takes away from what he does best. Judge him when Rose comes back.

But Haliburton and bane was the move obviously. But would have been phenomenal.
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2/12/2022  9:40 PM
Knixkik wrote:He can’t play Pg it seems. It forces him to overthink and takes away from what he does best. Judge him when Rose comes back.

But Haliburton and bane was the move obviously. But would have been phenomenal.

This exactly. People are so quick to forget him when he plays a position he knows how to play. This is coming from the person who wanted him benched during his slump earlier in the season so I am no homer for IQ. This is on Thibs for not wanting go give any sort of minutes to McBride. Maybe McBride is really bad but we will have no idea because he will never get a chance unless we are hit by another plague.
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2/12/2022  10:32 PM
BRIGGS wrote:And hecosting us close games. Shtty shtty performance again

I'm pretty sure his 10 minutes didn't cost us this game tonight.

But I know Evan Fournier's 36 minutes of 1/13 shooting + atrocious Defense did.

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2/12/2022  10:53 PM
NYKMentality wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:And hecosting us close games. Shtty shtty performance again

I'm pretty sure his 10 minutes didn't cost us this game tonight.

But I know Evan Fournier's 36 minutes of 1/13 shooting + atrocious Defense did.

fournier is gonna have games like this as a volume 3 shooter.. Quickley is 1-6 near every game.

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2/12/2022  11:46 PM

Overthinking because he is being played out of position just like Burks. Many positions are interchangeable. PG is not one of them.
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BRIGGS wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:And hecosting us close games. Shtty shtty performance again
I'm pretty sure his 10 minutes didn't cost us this game tonight.

But I know Evan Fournier's 36 minutes of 1/13 shooting + atrocious Defense did.

fournier is gonna have games like this as a volume 3 shooter.. Quickley is 1-6 near every game.

And IQ is going to have games like this as only a 2nd year developing kid.

What's Evan Fournier's excuse as a 10 year veteran scrub with atrocious Defense?
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2/13/2022  10:02 AM
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BRIGGS wrote:
NYKMentality wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:And hecosting us close games. Shtty shtty performance again
I'm pretty sure his 10 minutes didn't cost us this game tonight.

But I know Evan Fournier's 36 minutes of 1/13 shooting + atrocious Defense did.

fournier is gonna have games like this as a volume 3 shooter.. Quickley is 1-6 near every game.

And IQ is going to have games like this as only a 2nd year developing kid.

What's Evan Fournier's excuse as a 10 year veteran scrub with atrocious Defense?

Quickley is important because he’s the heart of unit 2. Even though yiu say 10-15 minutes — it’s those minutes which have been killing us. Thibs has been loyal to iq and we all like iq— but at the end of the day either he gets better immediately or his minutes need to go elsewhere. He’s shooting 36% but it’s the last 10-15 games he’s in the 20% range which simply can’t be accepted in the nba

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2/13/2022  11:26 AM
Well, we all witnessed him being very good last year and being very impactful this season, but I'm sure only this slump counts now because you don't like him, even though you didn't like him then loved him last year. Good luck on developing players if you're not prepared to see them struggle for stretches. But then again you don't believe in developing players, only what happened in the last game.
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2/13/2022  12:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/13/2022  12:47 PM
The problem with Quickly he is as others have stated a Shooting guard, not a Point Guard.

The bigger problem is Thibs has bought into it and slotted him in at PG.
He should be working on his off the ball movement and being effective at the 2, but instead is trying to do something he is not very good at, facilitating for others.

To make matters worse he has been given a green light by the coach to shoot atrocious shot after atrocious shot, taking away from facilitating.
So he is not developing the skills that would make him most effective for the team and on top of that has become the roadblock to introducing our only real PG (McBride) into a backup slot he should have been playing all along.

He is holding himself back and others...
It is becoming an Alonzo Trier situation, and that is a shame, because Quickly is very skilled.

I hate saying this, but in the last 20 games, we would have likely won a few more had he not played at all.

If this team wants to succeed it should get rid of all this ISO and make it MANDATORY team ball.
Unless it is off a fast break or you are wide open, you should not be allowed to shoot unless it is coming off of an assist.
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2/13/2022  1:01 PM
All those "Start IQ!" posts and threads were fun while they lasted
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2/13/2022  1:18 PM
smackeddog wrote:Well, we all witnessed him being very good last year and being very impactful this season, but I'm sure only this slump counts now because you don't like him, even though you didn't like him then loved him last year. Good luck on developing players if you're not prepared to see them struggle for stretches. But then again you don't believe in developing players, only what happened in the last game.

He’s costing us games. Nothing else to it

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2/13/2022  3:03 PM
why are we trying to pin the blame on one player - it's a team effort.

There are probably a half dozen games like this that we were in it, we were ahead- and then poof, there goes the lead and we don't recover.

We just don't have the talent to win games unless we are hitting on all cylinders.

Quickly has been big for us in stretches. Should we trade him like we did Jamal Crawford?

We definitely need to increase our talent, and we need to consolidate some players- so totally open to moving Quickly, but this isn't an addition by subtraction deal and I think he still has upside we have not realized yet.
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2/13/2022  4:35 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Well, we all witnessed him being very good last year and being very impactful this season, but I'm sure only this slump counts now because you don't like him, even though you didn't like him then loved him last year. Good luck on developing players if you're not prepared to see them struggle for stretches. But then again you don't believe in developing players, only what happened in the last game.

He’s costing us games. Nothing else to it

Yes, yes, it’s all Quickly’s fault, no one elses
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2/13/2022  4:49 PM
Let’s just pretend that the whole deadly bench unit (of which IQ was a crucial part) at the start of the year, never happened because… why exactly?
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2/13/2022  4:51 PM
So if you ignore all the games IQ was good, and all the games he help us win, erase them from history, and only count the recent slump, then I guess you could indeed conclude that he’s not in a slump, he’s just never good. Because you’re pretending only the slump games exist. Ingenious.
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2/13/2022  5:34 PM
smackeddog wrote:So if you ignore all the games IQ was good, and all the games he help us win, erase them from history, and only count the recent slump, then I guess you could indeed conclude that he’s not in a slump, he’s just never good. Because you’re pretending only the slump games exist. Ingenious.

Some posters are dead on. Quickley is better with Rose. But Rose is not here and Quickley is awful as a 1 guard. It’s not a slump. He sucks at pg. I’m a fan of Quickley — I’d rather not being saying this. I think he also needs a tad more arc on his jump shot and to simplify his game a bit. He could be part of a winning culture but right now he’s a conduit to losses.

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2/13/2022  9:08 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
smackeddog wrote:Well, we all witnessed him being very good last year and being very impactful this season, but I'm sure only this slump counts now because you don't like him, even though you didn't like him then loved him last year. Good luck on developing players if you're not prepared to see them struggle for stretches. But then again you don't believe in developing players, only what happened in the last game.

He’s costing us games. Nothing else to it


No he's not .. Thibs favoritism, substitution, changeable/different lineups every game, only having 48 minutes of ISO offense plays has cost the Knicks 31 losses, and so many winnable games.
The only creative player on the Knicks are D.Rose who's talent and experience plays to his teammates best talents in a lineup.
Coach Thibs still haven't FIXED the Knicks starter lineup!
It was Thibs starter lineup that build a 23 pt lead and LOSS the lead!
Randle's 41 min game didnt play a lick of defense in the 4th quarter, and the same with Fournier's 36 min game.
And this was not the first, second, or 3rd time the Knicks starters build a lead and loss the lead in the 2nd half (or 4th qtr.) in games this season.
Believe me, not a couple of Knicks players wanted to be traded on the deadline, a few Knicks players wanted out.
The Knicks not giving rookie McBride (Deuce) any playing time in their last 15 games (4-11) does something awful to a young player confidence, and NBA Growth.
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2/13/2022  10:11 PM
2nd season combo-guard Quickley's performance are far from being the Knicks problem from winning!

The number one problem are Thibs don't have head-coach Woodson as an assistant, or D.Rose leadership.
The second problem is RJ Barrett averaging 35 min a games ....
RJ Barrett can't play the SG position, he's a terrible backcourt partner.
RJ Barrett can't play the SF position, his effort and slow movement at the 3 spot are the same as Knox.
RJ Barrett's not a complimentary player to any of his teammates on help offense/defense, he has been an individual ISO player having little to no chemistry with his teammates on the court.
For the last 3 seasons RJ Barrett has been averaging 11 min of playing time in the Knicks first quarter of the game.
What was the Problem with the Knicks starter 5 lineup last season? The Knicks has the same problem with the starter 5 lineup this season .. RJ Barrett's the PROBLEM, he's to young and raw to be in a NBA starter lineup !!!
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