Word around the league is when Knicks president Leon Rose moved to strike a deal with Atlanta on Jan. 15, the head coach wasn’t all-in on the move.

“From my understanding, Thibs didn’t want him and they did it anyway,’’ said an NBA source who has been in contact with Knicks brass.

Then we all heard THIBs say you can't trade for a player who was out of the rotation for a player than needs to be in the rotation.

I have a feeling these moves are all inline with PERRY.

We had 27 million in open cap space all season long, and rolled out Elf as our pg

We had a boat load of expiring contracts and let them all expire with out using them to acquire a PG .

The previous off season showed stars were not lined up to come here, but we still chose to not make any trades.

We rolled out 6 PF's after having 70 million in cap space..

Now we have 6 wings no cap space, no expiring contracts, and even a guy like rondo would have help.

Thibs and Perry are not on the same page bottom line..There not really consulting with thibs, he wanted Derozen (balling his ass off) and he got Fournier.

Thibs didn't even want Kemba

knicks1248 wrote:Berman article is indicating

Word around the league is when Knicks president Leon Rose moved to strike a deal with Atlanta on Jan. 15, the head coach wasn’t all-in on the move.

“From my understanding, Thibs didn’t want him and they did it anyway,’’ said an NBA source who has been in contact with Knicks brass.

Then we all heard THIBs say you can't trade for a player who was out of the rotation for a player than needs to be in the rotation.

I have a feeling these moves are all inline with PERRY.

We had 27 million in open cap space all season long, and rolled out Elf as our pg

We had a boat load of expiring contracts and let them all expire with out using them to acquire a PG .

The previous off season showed stars were not lined up to come here, but we still chose to not make any trades.

We rolled out 6 PF's after having 70 million in cap space..

Now we have 6 wings no cap space, no expiring contracts, and even a guy like rondo would have help.

Thibs and Perry are not on the same page bottom line..There not really consulting with thibs, he wanted Derozen (balling his ass off) and he got Fournier.

Thibs didn't even want Kemba

Knicks have a lot of voices in the front office....Not sure why the fans always blame Perry for the trades and signings they do not like.

The moves we are making now (extremely conservative) are the same moves we were making when MILLS was here, the guy with NO FO experience, and his successor is another guy with no FO experience, both have relied on Perry.

I hated mills, but the move he was about to make ( a few days before he was fired) would have solved out PG problem

SNY's Ian Begley reported Monday that the Knicks had registered interest with Golden State about trading for Russell, adding that it was unclear how far talks had advanced.

Two of the names that have come up in conversations with the Warriors about Russell are Bobby Portis and Frank Ntilikina, according to Begley.

or

“New York obviously didn’t land Russell or any other young star prior to the trade deadline (Russell was dealt to Minnesota; for what it’s worth, one package for Russell under Mills that had support included Bobby Portis, Allonzo Trier and Frank Ntilikina),” Begley reported.

I believe they also wanted Knox, 1st and 2nd round pick, but conservative Perry wanted nothing to do with Russell's long term contract, went to Dolan and advised him the Mills was about to put us in cap hell and Mills was fired.

None of those players are here now, and we got nothing in return.

knicks1248 wrote:When you here other GMs talk about the knicks, PERRY and Leon are the 2 names that come up.

The moves we are making now (extremely conservative) are the same moves we were making when MILLS was here, the guy with NO FO experience, and his successor is another guy with no FO experience, both have relied on Perry.

I hated mills, but the move he was about to make ( a few days before he was fired) would have solved out PG problem

SNY's Ian Begley reported Monday that the Knicks had registered interest with Golden State about trading for Russell, adding that it was unclear how far talks had advanced.

Two of the names that have come up in conversations with the Warriors about Russell are Bobby Portis and Frank Ntilikina, according to Begley.

or

“New York obviously didn’t land Russell or any other young star prior to the trade deadline (Russell was dealt to Minnesota; for what it’s worth, one package for Russell under Mills that had support included Bobby Portis, Allonzo Trier and Frank Ntilikina),” Begley reported.

I believe they also wanted Knox, 1st and 2nd round pick, but conservative Perry wanted nothing to do with Russell's long term contract, went to Dolan and advised him the Mills was about to put us in cap hell and Mills was fired.

None of those players are here now, and we got nothing in return.

If all that is true, your looking it thru the lens of hindsight to make your point.
You also have Perry like ratting out Mills.
And, there is a cavalcade domino effect that your not factoring. LIke that deal gets done an all other things not.
And how rare is for a team to do a 4 for one. We to believe GS could take on Portis, Frank, Trier, and KNOX?
You can use anything you want to support what ever narrow agenda you wish to perpetuate to maintain your status of "Im right!".
What was Russels game then? Contract status? GSW was in what mode at that time?
Your pretending you were in the room. You were not in the building.
You can build up a more logical case and reconstruct things to present your view. You generally don't and instead rely on half quotes to serve a view.
A quote that says "Names come up on conversations" to you was a deal on the table Mills could have pulled the trigger on.
Of Deangelo was the guy, we'd have built around him and his heavy contract. Go reconstruct on that and present it. Or not.

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second i suspect we had insider info from RJ knowing what's ailing Cam and what Cam is and isn't capable of, and third, one can at least hope this is an added weight on the scale to persuade Zion towards NYC at some point in the future (if everything else breaks right)

Stop adding to an already log jam at certain positions unless you have a counter plan

knicks1248 wrote:Don't know why some of you hate to face reality about the situation..thats a direct shot at Leon and Perry.

Stop adding to an already log jam at certain positions unless you have a counter plan

You are literally looking at this through the view of a Tick Tack Toe game where one player just made 2 in a row and then the world stops and you can't figure out that the opposing player will just make the common sense next move.