I don’t think it’s a stretch to say Randle isn’t the playmaking forward we need. But he’s still an excellent finisher and rebounder. Barrett has done enough to earn some additional playmaking duties. And obviously we need to make a PG move to improve play making from that position. Knicks should transition Randle to a pick and roll and pick and pop finisher. His assists will go down but he will get his 20 ppg far more efficiently. Make a new PG and Barrett the initiators, and Randle the finisher. It should speed up the offense too. What worked last year isn’t working this year. I know I am one of those rare fans/posters who doesn’t really believe in brash decisions, but there are other things you can do before saying blow it up.

He's a PF with no PG and even worse his Front Office has forced him to play basketball with two atrocious players in Evan Fournier (loser should go back to Orlando) and midget on bad knees Kemba Walker; both who've ruined his Knicks team of last year.

How would Karl Malone looked as a PF with no John Stockton @ PG but instead Alec Burks @ PG? 🤣🤭🤣

SergioNYK wrote:After games like tonight, I just want Randle gone. I appreciate what he did last season but I just want him gone. He's getting almost impossible to root for. I really dislike his game this season.

Get used to it. He’s only under contract for another 4 seasons

NYKMentality wrote:I feel bad for Julius Randle.

He's a PF with no PG and even worse his Front Office has forced him to play basketball with two atrocious players in Evan Fournier (loser should go back to Orlando) and midget on bad knees Kemba Walker; both who've ruined his Knicks team of last year.

How would Karl Malone looked as a PF with no John Stockton @ PG but instead Alec Burks @ PG? 🤣🤭🤣

Randle is no Karl Malone. He's not even Jenna Malone this season.

NYKMentality wrote:I feel bad for Julius Randle.

He's a PF with no PG and even worse his Front Office has forced him to play basketball with two atrocious players in Evan Fournier (loser should go back to Orlando) and midget on bad knees Kemba Walker; both who've ruined his Knicks team of last year.

How would Karl Malone looked as a PF with no John Stockton @ PG but instead Alec Burks @ PG? 🤣🤭🤣

Agreed. The changes to the roster played a part. That being said, it’s time to use Randle differently and try to create easy baskets instead of make him work for everything on his own. Go get a real PG before it’s too late.

blkexec wrote:

NYKMentality wrote:I feel bad for Julius Randle.

He's a PF with no PG and even worse his Front Office has forced him to play basketball with two atrocious players in Evan Fournier (loser should go back to Orlando) and midget on bad knees Kemba Walker; both who've ruined his Knicks team of last year.

How would Karl Malone looked as a PF with no John Stockton @ PG but instead Alec Burks @ PG?

Malone would still look better than randle

How do you know? You never watched Karl Malone play PF while surrounded by Alec Burks, Kemba Walker and Evan Fournier type of crap, now did you?

NYKMentality wrote:I feel bad for Julius Randle.

He's a PF with no PG and even worse his Front Office has forced him to play basketball with two atrocious players in Evan Fournier (loser should go back to Orlando) and midget on bad knees Kemba Walker; both who've ruined his Knicks team of last year.

How would Karl Malone looked as a PF with no John Stockton @ PG but instead Alec Burks @ PG? 🤣🤭🤣

Karl Malone took open jumpers, and didn’t play iso ball.

Randles main issue is his outside shooting has fallen off a cliff compared to last year. He doesn’t even take open shots when they are set up for him. I don’t know what he works on in practice but it definitely isn’t spot up shooting.

Knixkik wrote:2022-23 starting lineup:

C Turner PF Randle SF Barrett SG Grimes PG Brunson

This would assume something like;
Toppin, Kemba and Dallas 2023 first for Brunson (as a sign and trade this summer) or add Bullock or Powell to the deal as a deadline deal to work cap wise

Turner to the Knicks during the draft for Burks, Noel and the 2022 pick which will likely be 10-15 range.

Bench will consist of Rose, IQ, Fournier, Reddish etc

Starting 5 of Turner, Randle, Barrett, Grimes and Brunson will allow Randle an open lane as a finisher. Brunson and Barrett as initiators and Grimes as a 3&D menace. Turner will anchor the D and provide inside out scoring. Randle will be the oldest starter. The team will get faster on offense and far better defensively. Bench will come in guns blazing.

I will continue to advocate for Brunson and Turner as pieces that fit from a basketball perspective and an age perspective. And Grimes looks like a guy who can be infectious when he’s on the floor and help set the tone as a starter eventually. Fourniers role can be a spark plug scorer who can see increased minutes when he’s hot.

Mavs aren't dealing Brunson especially at the deadline. They have been great with him in the starting lineup. They can easily make the 2nd round of the playoffs.

Jmpasq wrote:

Knixkik wrote:2022-23 starting lineup:

C Turner PF Randle SF Barrett SG Grimes PG Brunson

This would assume something like;
Toppin, Kemba and Dallas 2023 first for Brunson (as a sign and trade this summer) or add Bullock or Powell to the deal as a deadline deal to work cap wise

Turner to the Knicks during the draft for Burks, Noel and the 2022 pick which will likely be 10-15 range.

Bench will consist of Rose, IQ, Fournier, Reddish etc

Starting 5 of Turner, Randle, Barrett, Grimes and Brunson will allow Randle an open lane as a finisher. Brunson and Barrett as initiators and Grimes as a 3&D menace. Turner will anchor the D and provide inside out scoring. Randle will be the oldest starter. The team will get faster on offense and far better defensively. Bench will come in guns blazing.

I will continue to advocate for Brunson and Turner as pieces that fit from a basketball perspective and an age perspective. And Grimes looks like a guy who can be infectious when he’s on the floor and help set the tone as a starter eventually. Fourniers role can be a spark plug scorer who can see increased minutes when he’s hot.

Mavs aren't dealing Brunson especially at the deadline. They have been great with him in the starting lineup. They can easily make the 2nd round of the playoffs.

Maybe not but it’s time to use their connections and convince him to come home to the Knicks. He’s a free agent and can control his own future. He’s the real deal and would be perfect at PG, along with a healthy drose backing him up.