fishmike wrote:we are building around Sims because Mitch isnt a long term solution... remember?

If we don’t lock up Mitch long term OMFG

BigDaddyG wrote:KJ is a nice little player, but you'd want to play him over Obi and give up a decent prospect in Jericho? Not really worth it right now.

I like Sims but you must give to receive. I like KJ for our team. He can play 2-3-4 and he’s a better 3 point shooter abs defender than obi.

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:KJ is a nice little player, but you'd want to play him over Obi and give up a decent prospect in Jericho? Not really worth it right now.

I like Sims but you must give to receive. I like KJ for our team. He can play 2-3-4 and he’s a better 3 point shooter abs defender than obi.

KJ is a 6'6" wing who plays like a bull that would be considered a SF who could possibly play some PF minutes in a super small ball lineup. Comparing him to Obi make zero sense.

Taj looks like he is on his last legs this year. Mitch or Noel may be moved.

I like Jericho as a backup C and I think you forgot about him cause he hasn't played much.

Also, with RJ, Grimes, Burks, Fournier where do you think KJ will get minutes? Doesn't make sense.

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:KJ is a nice little player, but you'd want to play him over Obi and give up a decent prospect in Jericho? Not really worth it right now.

I like Sims but you must give to receive. I like KJ for our team. He can play 2-3-4 and he’s a better 3 point shooter abs defender than obi.

KJ is a 6'6" wing who plays like a bull that would be considered a SF who could possibly play some PF minutes in a super small ball lineup. Comparing him to Obi make zero sense.

Taj looks like he is on his last legs this year. Mitch or Noel may be moved.

I like Jericho as a backup C and I think you forgot about him cause he hasn't played much.

Also, with RJ, Grimes, Burks, Fournier where do you think KJ will get minutes? Doesn't make sense.

We have 3 more draft picks coming up. I’m interested in some more well rounded prospects.I like KJ martin I think he’s a guy who can be a good player for a good team.

BRIGGS wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:KJ is a nice little player, but you'd want to play him over Obi and give up a decent prospect in Jericho? Not really worth it right now.

I like Sims but you must give to receive. I like KJ for our team. He can play 2-3-4 and he’s a better 3 point shooter abs defender than obi.

KJ is a 6'6" wing who plays like a bull that would be considered a SF who could possibly play some PF minutes in a super small ball lineup. Comparing him to Obi make zero sense.

Taj looks like he is on his last legs this year. Mitch or Noel may be moved.

I like Jericho as a backup C and I think you forgot about him cause he hasn't played much.

Also, with RJ, Grimes, Burks, Fournier where do you think KJ will get minutes? Doesn't make sense.

We have 3 more draft picks coming up. I’m interested in some more well rounded prospects.I like KJ martin I think he’s a guy who can be a good player for a good team.

That's nice and all but addresses zero of what I responded to

blkexec wrote:http://www.ultimateknicks.com/outerlink.asp?id=146667654

Meh. What does this do for us?

Knixkik wrote:The simplest trade possibilities right now are Noel, Obi and picks for Turner, or Burks, Obi and picks for J grant.

I am hoping the Knicks are working on a three team trade. Basically pay for Grant to send him to another team. We’re hearing that the Kings are open to Haliburton trade scenarios. He is overrated, but as a role playing PG he might be exactly what the Knicks need long term. I think they would be willing to move him for Jerian Grant to pair him with Fox. It would give them a really talented duo.

wargames wrote:

Knixkik wrote:The simplest trade possibilities right now are Noel, Obi and picks for Turner, or Burks, Obi and picks for J grant.

I am hoping the Knicks are working on a three team trade. Basically pay for Grant to send him to another team. We’re hearing that the Kings are open to Haliburton trade scenarios. He is overrated, but as a role playing PG he might be exactly what the Knicks need long term. I think they would be willing to move him for Jerian Grant to pair him with Fox. It would give them a really talented duo.

Definitely down to be third team to help facilitate Grant going to another team. Grants best position is PF, so it doesn't make sense to pair him with Randle.

Would love to figure out a way to get Haliburton...he would automatically become our best passer, ball mover and one of our best 3 pt shooters.

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:The simplest trade possibilities right now are Noel, Obi and picks for Turner, or Burks, Obi and picks for J grant.

You know what trade I'd go for?

JGrant, Saddiq Bey for Randle, Burks, etc. No idea what that "etc" would be, also the salaries don't really match but it's more the idea I'm going for.

Maybe it's a hint of a step back in top line talent - Randle is more valuable and overall better - but I think it gets you 2 guys who are more role players who are defenders and ball movers and fills the SF/PF spots better. Cleans room for others to step up in Randle's absence.

Detroit gets a guy they can temporarily build around and offensive focal point to help Cade and the other young guys.

I’m not ready to give up on Randle. I believe there’s a middle ground between what we had last year and what we are seeing right now from him. I like Grant and Bey though.