Not the team. The fans. We boo. Im not a big Gilbert Arenas fan but there is an interivew going around about this subject. saw a video were he explains its one thing to get booed on the road. It pisses players off and they want to destroy those fans. At home they want encouragement. “Steph Curry can miss all day, he don’t get booed at home. He says that really messes with players heads.
We want change and think thats improvement.
We say “they can’t handle the big stage”. He likens it to how Eagles fans are in Philly.
We say we the mecca, we the best fans, and are smart. Maybe right? Arrogant but correct?
We do feel we are “deserving”? Entitled? Its harsh, but its a bit right. We love our team and want to be loved back with success?
I recall GSW fans in the oracle being loud and supportive in years the team was not good.
They booing in Boston with Tatem and brown?

The Bing Bong crowd are bipolar. The highs are very high and the lows are irrational. , and get angry when not. This bipolar response is not rational. For example look at Phlip Flop PhilC and his nonsensical one liners. the open concept suggestions of 1248 were “we need a trade” as some desperate cure without any actualization of reality of a real proposal. Just as an emotional release. Briggs heat of the moment suggestions. All well intended, and all representative of the fan who perceives themselves as knowledgeable and self indulged enough to think they have the answers. We/they are more knowledgable than the avg fan, but also lacks the understanding of the profession, or “Know what you don’t know”. Briggs suggested they run passing drills. While not a bad idea, it assumes he sees things the massive coaching staff does not. I have read here that Mitch’s post game bike work to get further into shape was deemed silly by someone. Reality is these guys have to also rest and body needs to repair itself and pro teams spend big money on training staff and tech to gain every advantage. In the ensuing weeks Mitch has been playing better and better. It was not silly, its how its done and that way to mitigate injury.

Fans are empowered in there comments (Me too). I push back on some of you because making **** up falsifies that empowerment and spreading it to others is not accurate.

Then there is NYmentality who only has good intentions with his uber a bit obsessive Randle Love and will go to great lenghts to protect his opinion. At the same time, he deplores EF to the other extreme. Shouldn’t we be cheering EF to do better? I mean, thats the best outcome? Instead we think his exile without much thought of replacement improves the team.

We are not responsible for the play of our guys or the decisions made. Often fans like us think we are and call each other out for it. Im sort of doing this here but really there is no solution or consequence other than the jeers in the arena. Most of you in NYC don’t go to the games? We used to have posters who went but very few do or talk about going to games and the experiences. So we are not boo birds are we?

Im asking questions about the nature of the NY fan not shaming. Lets put it this way im not imploring you guys to change nor do I have any illusions I can influence any of you. Arenas calls us out. Im discussing it.
Do any of you agree or disagree?

BigDaddyG wrote:I just wanted Julius to improve his overall effort. If he was too delusional to realize he was slacking and needed to do better, than I could care less if his feeling were hurt. I also couldn't give a phuck what Gilbert Arenas has to say about the Knicks, a team I doubt he even watches.

Who said his feelings were hurt?

This is interesting, you don’t go to games and somehow feel your helping him overcome his delusional approach?
You feel that since you watch your entitled to say what you want, but Arenas not, eventhough he played in the league?

Uptown wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:I just wanted Julius to improve his overall effort. If he was too delusional to realize he was slacking and needed to do better, than I could care less if his feeling were hurt. I also couldn't give a phuck what Gilbert Arenas has to say about the Knicks, a team I doubt he even watches.

Pretty much....It's not about missing shots, it's about his lack of intensity on the defensive end, his constant bickering with the refs during live action, and his poor body language. And its not just the fans, he is being called out by the MSG broadcasters. Along with big money comes big expectations and I don't think its too much to ask your best player and leader set the tone.

Is it the money that is bugging fans out this season?

And he sounded like a tool during that interview. He thought we would actually boo Julius Randle on Christmas while giving Trae Young a "standing ovation"? Well. He was wrong. Julius Randle played awesome, MSG cheered for him and MSG also chanted FK TRAE YOUNG.

Gilbert Arenas is a tool.

"When you lose in NY it stinks but when you win in NY it's the greatest place to play in the world".

Fans at the Garden were chanting "MVP" last year! What changed? Maybe the "I don't give a sh**" attitude that his body language displays is the answer.

Uptown wrote:It's not just NY, this is pervasive across the league. The bigger the fan base, the bigger probability you will see fans on all ends of the spectrum. The Lakers Fans hated Danny Green; were sending him online death threats for his poor performance during the finals. Lakers also hated Dwight Howard during his first stint. There's a bunch of Mavs fans that hate KP. Some Memphis fans called out Ja Morant when they lost a game after he returned from injury. We are FANatics for a reason.

Fans at the Garden were chanting "MVP" last year! What changed? Maybe the "I don't give a sh**" attitude that his body language displays is the answer.

NYKMentality wrote:

Rookie wrote:While claiming he does not pay attention to any outside criticism, Randle confirmed he has heard the outside criticism. Really dont give a fk what anybody has to say, to be honest; Randle said after practice in Tarrytown on Wednesday. I;m out there playing. Nobody knows the game out there better than I do, compared to what everybody has to say. So I really dont give a ****. I just go out there and play; via Mark W. Sanchez @ New York Post

isn;t it Randles I don;t give a **** attitude that we fans have taken issues with? Is this like which came first, the chicken or the egg? Maybe, just maybe, he should give a ****. If I didnt give a **** in my job, I wouldn;wouldn't be very good at it. He just sounds so entitled

Asked if he has felt underappreciated, Randle said the right people value him. Thats for you guys [media] to judge. My teammates appreciate me, my coaches, organization; Randle said before alluding to the Knicks; team president, senior basketball adviser and head coach, respectively. Leon [Rose], Wes [William Wesley], Thibs [Tom Thibodeau]. Everyone appreciates me. That;s all I need; via Mark W. Sanchez @ New York Post

Well I guess he really doesnt care if he gets any fans all star votes. Or does he only not care when we are criticizing his lack of effort and I dont give a ****ty attitude. What a freaking circle jerk

Julius Randle is correct.

He shouldn't give two flying fks about what chicken little "love you while you're up/kick you while your down" types of fans think (about a shooting percentage).

It takes a pos fan to forget how Julius Randle carried NYC on his back last year, became the first NBA player to do what he did since dating back to Larry Bird's MVP season of 1986, earned the NBA's MIP award, made an NBA All-Star team, selected to an All-NBA team and most importantly; led NY to the playoffs (and as a 4th seed) for the first time since 2012-2013 but yet oh so quick to quit on him (not even 35 games into the season).

And now fans such as yourself label him as playing with a "not giving a **** attitude"?

Well. I've got news for you.

#1 on his team in Points scored (19.6).
#1 on his team in Rebounds (10.1).
#1 on his team in Assists (4.9).
#1 on his team in Minutes played (35.4).
#1 on his team in Defensive Win Share.

Imo it takes a certain type of fan. With a hidden agenda. To make those types of horse crap claims such as "Julius Randle doesn't give a ****" when he's the heart and soul of his team, loved by his teammates and gives his all every single game.

ONLY CERTAIN TYPES OF NEW YORK FANS WILL TURN ON YOU OVER A FG% WHILE COMPLETELY IGNORING EVERYTHING ELSE

And I'm not one of them.

It's fans such as yourself, who deserved Eddy Curry (because Julius Randle is too good for you).

And it's fans such as yourself which makes going 0-2 without Julius Randle with two atrocious loses have a silver lining. Because had NY gone 2-0? You "ISO haters" would've criticized and hated on Julius Randle like no tomorrow. But yet you'll ignore his 30 points, 16 rebounds, 4 assists and WIN during his return game.

Fans such as yourself have a hidden agenda against Julius Randle.

You'll say "he doesn't give a ****". But you just don't realize that sometimes Julius Randle gets tired during a basketball game. Because his coach Thibs plays him like a race horse. And you also don't comprehend how Julius Randle has only missed 1 game throughout the previous two years (before COVID-19 protocol) despite the fact that his coach Thibs rides him like a horse while trying to run him into the ground.

Any Knicks fan claiming Julius Randle plays like he "doesn't give a ****" A.) Has a hidden agenda against the guy and B.) Deserves Eddy Curry.

Nope

SergioNYK wrote:Arenas is the same clown who brought loaded guns into the locker room as a joke. I don't take what he says too seriously.

Also, the same guy who thinks it's funny to poop in a teammates sneakers.

Nalod wrote:Arenas is an ass. Was then and likley not much changed.
Randle fully cares about fan reaction. They loved him last year, and killing him in kind.
Im not trying to change the fan. We are discussing.
Not even debating any of our rights to opinions. I think on this subject Arenas is repeating what many have said about
NYC and the Garden being a tough place to play and not all are cut to do it. He said that. Randle is taking the good with the bad.
IM part of the "We" in "We suck". Im not saying I don't. I just don't suck as much as some. But yes, we are fanatics and prone to emotion.
Randell is asked if it bothers his and says he don't care. Does that offend the fans?

As a fan, I invest time, energy and money (League Pass, hats, jerseys etc.) in the team. I don't expect players to give a phuck, but there is an unwritten contract between teams and their fanbases. If a player is off, I think most reasonable people can understand that it happens. But effort... that's the bare minimum I expect.
If I'm staying up late to watch a team, especially when I have an early commute in the morning, that's a time investment and I'm going to be pissed when I see that wasted watching low energy and lack of effort. I didn't have Julius hate, because I don't know all the circumstances. Thibs said he was banged up and I'm taking that into account. But it's clear that he's not performing up to snuff. There's plenty of video showing him dying on defense. That's unacceptable for the leader of the team. I'm a Knicks fan and I want Julius to do well. But I'm not going to ignore it when I see a consistent lack of energy and interest.
I saw the Matrix: Resurrections in the theaters on opening night. Definitely not the smartest move, but I'm a big fan of the franchise...really the first movie. The other two were aight. Anyway, I left the theater disappointed. Didn't even stay for the closing credits scene. I told everyone I knew was interested that the movie was kinda disappointing and that I wished I watched it at home. Should I have lied and gave it a slightly better review because I wouldn't mind watching more Matrix movies and I hope more people watch it in the theaters? Should I over hype the positives, and there are some, but just overlook the film's underlying problems?
In the end, it's all entertainment. The fans, players and owners understand this. If, as a consumer, you're not happy with the product, you have every right to voice you're displeasure. Philly is doing it with Ben Simmons, Boston does it with Marcus Smart and even Milwaukee fans were doing it with Jrue Holiday during the first half of the finals.

maybe he should run around the league like Harden, Paul George and Westbrook looking for a loaded team to joined.

maybe he should request a trade to the wizards or Portland and hook up with Beal or Lillard to make his life easier

Maybe he's disgusted with management for wasting 30 mill on EF and KEMBA as oppose to signing another ALL star

Even if Randle Duplicated his season from last yr, it was only good enough for a 1st round exit