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11/11/2004  8:59 AM
Although it was interesting to hear JYD said that Robinson used to dunk from the foul line in practice he is not what we need. As so many of you that are infatuated with Isiah like to point out about Isiah bringing a winning attitude and a culture to the team look who has brought in.

Marbury-who has a history of whinning at players who don't convert on his passes, never has proven he can win
Crawford-who won nearly 17 games a year for three years and has one of the worst shot selections in the league
TT-career underachiever that has more talent than half the league but refuses to use it
Baker-who can't stay clean, is always depressed and rarely is in shape, although we will give him a pass
Penny(although i like him)-has a history of being someone that is tough to play with

E-Rob-hasn't played in years, has no basketball IQ

He has to get out of this habit, he falls in love with athletes which is dangerous especially when they don't have the proper work ethics.

I say if we are going to take a chance it might as well be on a project at a position we don't really have and teach him how to be a center, he is athletic can block shots and dunk the ball.

And if he didn't sign people that will never play he wouldn't need to buy anyone out. Brewer? Sundov?

Haslip or no one.
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11/11/2004  1:12 PM
Its unfair to say that about our players because everyone deserves another chance to change their careers. I don't know if anyone has noticed it but Marbury, for example, is becoming a very different player than the one that was famous for being selfich and not a leader. I really believe that this is the year in which Marbury will become a superstar like he can. No great scoring average, but great leadership. And anyway, I really like the fact that Isiah wants to give this players that chance because he knows how tough life can be and that a change in scenary can really help anyone who has been negatively affected by that. I would like to sign Haislip because we need a center prospect in the team. We need guys at 6'10"+ with talent and if you have a chance to get one by signing it without taking a deep risk, I'd do it. But I do like the fact that Isiah is willing to give E-Rob a new chance and with a chance of scenary and some love he could go back to being the player he was in Charlotte, and that would be good for us.

If you made some mistakes in life and your reputation were in the bottom of the ocean, wouldn't it be great that someone showed some faith in you, gave you some love and gave you a new chance in life? It could bring out the best from you. Thats part of the direction Isiah is taking and I like it.

In terms of signing who, I would definitely sign Haislip because he can play a position we really need to upgrade. But signing E-Rob could become a good deal in the future. We'll see...
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11/11/2004  1:17 PM
I dunno man, I am not liking all these Bulls players in NY uniforms. Craw and JYD I am cool with - beyond that and I dont think the team is really improving.

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11/11/2004  1:22 PM
MS.. I agree. Eddie R. is not what this team needs. Haislip at least has the potential to fill the shock blocking, role playing big man we lack.. although he isn't the 5. If he developes, he could make others into trade chips.
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11/11/2004  1:29 PM
Posted by OasisBU:

I dunno man, I am not liking all these Bulls players in NY uniforms. Craw and JYD I am cool with - beyond that and I dont think the team is really improving.

I would welcome Eddy Curry to the Knicks with arms wide open!!

But yeah, be careful with that Bulls exodus. Isiah will know who to bring from any team...
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11/11/2004  1:43 PM
Bottom line is we need a 5. If Isiah has to make a trade that puts us a step back at one of the other positions in order to solidify the center position then I say go for it.

If the potential is out there then he should seize the moment and grab a good big. I dont know what would be available at this point in the season.
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11/11/2004  1:49 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by OasisBU:

I dunno man, I am not liking all these Bulls players in NY uniforms. Craw and JYD I am cool with - beyond that and I dont think the team is really improving.

I would welcome Eddy Curry to the Knicks with arms wide open!!

But yeah, be careful with that Bulls exodus. Isiah will know who to bring from any team...

I doubt your arms can open that wide!
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11/11/2004  1:54 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by OasisBU:

I dunno man, I am not liking all these Bulls players in NY uniforms. Craw and JYD I am cool with - beyond that and I dont think the team is really improving.

I would welcome Eddy Curry to the Knicks with arms wide open!!

But yeah, be careful with that Bulls exodus. Isiah will know who to bring from any team...

I doubt your arms can open that wide!

LOL!!! So true!
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11/11/2004  2:14 PM
Look it doesn't matter E-Rob will become a Knick because this is not a purely basketball move more like a business decision. What IT wants he gets so lets welcome the new Knick.
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11/11/2004  2:30 PM
It really surprises me me that nothing has been written about Haislip since he was let free. He was a 1st round pick, he is 6'10", he has potential and is very young. Why hasn't some team tried to sign this guy? Is there something we don't know?

We should try signing him, even if we do or not sign Robinson if he really could be the upgrade in the frontcourt that some of us think he can be.
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11/11/2004  2:32 PM
Chad Ford Conversation

PJ, CT: Did it really make sense for the KNicks to waive SHandon Anderson to make room for Eddie Robinson? I just don't see him getting time to play...Wouldn't Alonzo make more sense? What is Isiah thinking?!?!

Chad Ford: You mean paying $20 million dollars to waive a guy (Anderson) so that you can sign a guy (Robinson) the Bulls just paid $14 million to dump? Makes perfect sense in Isiah's world. One man's trash is another man's treasure I guess.

I have to agree with him Isiah is in his own world. I don't want Curry, he is a fat dump of ****, never is in shape, can't handle the pressure, has not gotten better on a yearly basis, and is an underachiever.

TT has all the talent in the world and limitless potential and he turned out to be an over priced waste. Curry will be the same thing. There is no pressure on him as a Bull and he can't get it.

Isiah is a terrible business man, and is lost in his own world of athleticism. He hasn't brought in one blue-collar guy yet. KVH had 23 last night, by the way. And this is another step in the wrong direction.....
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11/11/2004  4:13 PM
Isiah is a terrible business man, and is lost in his own world of athleticism. He hasn't brought in one blue-collar guy yet. KVH had 23 last night, by the way. And this is another step in the wrong direction.....

Dog, what is up with you and Keith Van Horn

You act like you’re his mama or something…straight catchin feeling over the trade. Get over it...

KVH > TT / Nazr > Doleac… Basically it was a wash. You keep acting like we traded away Labron James or something. I like KVH, but dude has a habit of being as dependable as a crack head when the game gets tight. Why you think he keeps getting traded?

And that Blue collar reference is a straight up lie. JYD aint blue collar? Ariza with his defense and intangibles isnt blue collar?. And didn’t Zeke re-sign Krazy Kurt when everybody around here wanted some pretty boy power forward instead. In case you havent noticed, Kurt defines blue collar work ethic. Get your facts straight homie! What Blue collar only means white players?
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11/11/2004  4:39 PM
Posted by MS:

Although it was interesting to hear JYD said that Robinson used to dunk from the foul line in practice he is not what we need. As so many of you that are infatuated with Isiah like to point out about Isiah bringing a winning attitude and a culture to the team look who has brought in.

Marbury-who has a history of whinning at players who don't convert on his passes, never has proven he can win
Crawford-who won nearly 17 games a year for three years and has one of the worst shot selections in the league
TT-career underachiever that has more talent than half the league but refuses to use it
Baker-who can't stay clean, is always depressed and rarely is in shape, although we will give him a pass
Penny(although i like him)-has a history of being someone that is tough to play with

E-Rob-hasn't played in years, has no basketball IQ

He has to get out of this habit, he falls in love with athletes which is dangerous especially when they don't have the proper work ethics

Chauncey Billups - Journeyman. It has always been question could a team go far with him at the point being that some thought he was a tweener.

Lindsey Hunter - Can play D but a journeyman none the less.

Corliss Williamson - Although he actually became 6th man of the year he has become a journeyman who has had a hard time finding an identity on whatever team he's on. He keeps getting traded.

Ben Wallace - Was a diamond in the rough for a few years. He had played for a few teams on their summer league rosters and gotten cut. Also played over seas.

Rasheed Wallace - Good player but led the league in tecs and is a headcase. It had gotten to the point where everytime he touched the ball in Portland the entire arena would boo him.

Prince - The teams that passed on him in the draft said that he was an ok player that will struggle because he doesn't do any one thing particularly well and has no go to moves.

Elden Campbell - was said to be old and washed up.

RIP - was traded for Stackhouse...enough said about what was thought about him in DC

Milicic - has yet to find an identity in this league. Some question if he'll ever find it.

REAL MOTLEY CREW HUH? A team full of underachievers was put together, played the game the right way and one it all.

Case closed.
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11/11/2004  4:43 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Isiah is a terrible business man, and is lost in his own world of athleticism. He hasn't brought in one blue-collar guy yet. KVH had 23 last night, by the way. And this is another step in the wrong direction.....

Dog, what is up with you and Keith Van Horn

You act like you’re his mama or something…straight catchin feeling over the trade. Get over it...

KVH > TT / Nazr > Doleac… Basically it was a wash. You keep acting like we traded away Labron James or something. I like KVH, but dude has a habit of being as dependable as a crack head when the game gets tight. Why you think he keeps getting traded?

And that Blue collar reference is a straight up lie. JYD aint blue collar? Ariza with his defense and intangibles isnt blue collar?. And didn’t Zeke re-sign Krazy Kurt when everybody around here wanted some pretty boy power forward instead. In case you havent noticed, Kurt defines blue collar work ethic. Get your facts straight homie! What Blue collar only means white players?

LMFAO HAHAHAHA
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11/11/2004  4:58 PM
[b]Posted by MaRbUrYiSaKnIcK:
LMFAO HAHAHAHA

Hey - Watch that "F" Mr. 12-Year-old.
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11/11/2004  10:39 PM
Posted by Marv:
[b]Posted by MaRbUrYiSaKnIcK:
LMFAO HAHAHAHA

Hey - Watch that "F" Mr. 12-Year-old.

haha
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11/11/2004  10:40 PM
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by MS:

Although it was interesting to hear JYD said that Robinson used to dunk from the foul line in practice he is not what we need. As so many of you that are infatuated with Isiah like to point out about Isiah bringing a winning attitude and a culture to the team look who has brought in.

Marbury-who has a history of whinning at players who don't convert on his passes, never has proven he can win
Crawford-who won nearly 17 games a year for three years and has one of the worst shot selections in the league
TT-career underachiever that has more talent than half the league but refuses to use it
Baker-who can't stay clean, is always depressed and rarely is in shape, although we will give him a pass
Penny(although i like him)-has a history of being someone that is tough to play with

E-Rob-hasn't played in years, has no basketball IQ

He has to get out of this habit, he falls in love with athletes which is dangerous especially when they don't have the proper work ethics

Chauncey Billups - Journeyman. It has always been question could a team go far with him at the point being that some thought he was a tweener.

Lindsey Hunter - Can play D but a journeyman none the less.

Corliss Williamson - Although he actually became 6th man of the year he has become a journeyman who has had a hard time finding an identity on whatever team he's on. He keeps getting traded.

Ben Wallace - Was a diamond in the rough for a few years. He had played for a few teams on their summer league rosters and gotten cut. Also played over seas.

Rasheed Wallace - Good player but led the league in tecs and is a headcase. It had gotten to the point where everytime he touched the ball in Portland the entire arena would boo him.

Prince - The teams that passed on him in the draft said that he was an ok player that will struggle because he doesn't do any one thing particularly well and has no go to moves.

Elden Campbell - was said to be old and washed up.

RIP - was traded for Stackhouse...enough said about what was thought about him in DC

Milicic - has yet to find an identity in this league. Some question if he'll ever find it.

REAL MOTLEY CREW HUH? A team full of underachievers was put together, played the game the right way and one it all.

Case closed.

Very, very good point.
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11/11/2004  11:06 PM
do you think there is any chance of signing erob and moving him right away?

i was thinking maybe (cause its so close to christmas) of sending him and someone else to denver for nene and lenard. i know, i know, pipe dream right?

any ideas of what zeke might be offering him for $$$$$$$$$$$$
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11/11/2004  11:29 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by TheloniusMonk:
Posted by MS:

Although it was interesting to hear JYD said that Robinson used to dunk from the foul line in practice he is not what we need. As so many of you that are infatuated with Isiah like to point out about Isiah bringing a winning attitude and a culture to the team look who has brought in.

Marbury-who has a history of whinning at players who don't convert on his passes, never has proven he can win
Crawford-who won nearly 17 games a year for three years and has one of the worst shot selections in the league
TT-career underachiever that has more talent than half the league but refuses to use it
Baker-who can't stay clean, is always depressed and rarely is in shape, although we will give him a pass
Penny(although i like him)-has a history of being someone that is tough to play with

E-Rob-hasn't played in years, has no basketball IQ

He has to get out of this habit, he falls in love with athletes which is dangerous especially when they don't have the proper work ethics

Chauncey Billups - Journeyman. It has always been question could a team go far with him at the point being that some thought he was a tweener.

Lindsey Hunter - Can play D but a journeyman none the less.

Corliss Williamson - Although he actually became 6th man of the year he has become a journeyman who has had a hard time finding an identity on whatever team he's on. He keeps getting traded.

Ben Wallace - Was a diamond in the rough for a few years. He had played for a few teams on their summer league rosters and gotten cut. Also played over seas.

Rasheed Wallace - Good player but led the league in tecs and is a headcase. It had gotten to the point where everytime he touched the ball in Portland the entire arena would boo him.

Prince - The teams that passed on him in the draft said that he was an ok player that will struggle because he doesn't do any one thing particularly well and has no go to moves.

Elden Campbell - was said to be old and washed up.

RIP - was traded for Stackhouse...enough said about what was thought about him in DC

Milicic - has yet to find an identity in this league. Some question if he'll ever find it.

REAL MOTLEY CREW HUH? A team full of underachievers was put together, played the game the right way and one it all.

Case closed.

Very, very good point.

The common ground on them other than knowing their roll is that they all knew how to play defense and were willing to play totally committed team ball...not one player averaged 20 pts on that team...they were a true team, IMO...
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11/12/2004  8:05 AM
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by OasisBU:

I dunno man, I am not liking all these Bulls players in NY uniforms. Craw and JYD I am cool with - beyond that and I dont think the team is really improving.

I would welcome Eddy Curry to the Knicks with arms wide open!!

But yeah, be careful with that Bulls exodus. Isiah will know who to bring from any team...

The same way he knew how to bring in Tim Thomas?
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