The GS Warriors are 11-1 smoking teams and they play primarily with no C. Do we really need a C for 48 minutes every night? Cant we mix and match smaller lineups to play faster?
Somehow we need to inject more obi(IQ and Obi are the best energy players)

I think we have some of the players we need to be good.

But so far Thibs has not got the line ups down. Also Leon Rose gets a fart grade for Fourmier. Kemba is OK but also not the answer.

Free Grimes extended Obis minutes. and do what Jim Calhoun would do Barrett Fourmier or even Randle if their body language and energy suck--sit them. No ones good enough not to play hardy

Nalod wrote:Grimes has played a total of 4.5 minutes in 4 appearences.
The notion of change = improvement is suggested when things are not going well, but its not always the case.
If Q has earned an audition thats fine but there has to be an order to it and a fit.
Whose place does he take and what is he doing that elevates the team?

“I heard a poster talk about patience”………Briggs is bugging our house? Or “I read a poster implore patience but I read Thibs is not buying it and I am starting my own thread of the day which makes me then more accurate so read my new thread”.
Larry Browns 23 win knick season/roster was a dysfunctional mess from day one. This team started well and is now has chemistry issues. I suppose as fans we suppose to have answers? Thibs, the bank of coaches and analytic guys don’t have it, but Briggs does?
Maybe he is right. Maybe humiliation of pro’s like Calhoun did with UCONN college kids is the answer, or give the rookie his due is te answer, or keep throwing out suggestions until they do one then stand with boastful pride if it works as if……………

Well, thats better than Nalod just sitting on his ass commenting on it and not making suggestions? Maybe. Im not helping the cause. Actually im sort of the historian type that likes to discuss many range of things, not just the tightness in my chest due to the starting unit.

Im patient because usually panic rookie inclusions rarely work. Love me some Linsanity “a star is born” type thing as much as the next guy.

there is room for action between patient and panic. I don't think Briggs or anyone is suggesting we panic, but we'd like to maybe see some move to try to stir things up.

We can't ostrich our way to a starting line up fix.

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Grimes has played a total of 4.5 minutes in 4 appearences.
The notion of change = improvement is suggested when things are not going well, but its not always the case.
If Q has earned an audition thats fine but there has to be an order to it and a fit.
Whose place does he take and what is he doing that elevates the team?

“I heard a poster talk about patience”………Briggs is bugging our house? Or “I read a poster implore patience but I read Thibs is not buying it and I am starting my own thread of the day which makes me then more accurate so read my new thread”.
Larry Browns 23 win knick season/roster was a dysfunctional mess from day one. This team started well and is now has chemistry issues. I suppose as fans we suppose to have answers? Thibs, the bank of coaches and analytic guys don’t have it, but Briggs does?
Maybe he is right. Maybe humiliation of pro’s like Calhoun did with UCONN college kids is the answer, or give the rookie his due is te answer, or keep throwing out suggestions until they do one then stand with boastful pride if it works as if……………

Well, thats better than Nalod just sitting on his ass commenting on it and not making suggestions? Maybe. Im not helping the cause. Actually im sort of the historian type that likes to discuss many range of things, not just the tightness in my chest due to the starting unit.

Im patient because usually panic rookie inclusions rarely work. Love me some Linsanity “a star is born” type thing as much as the next guy.

there is room for action between patient and panic. I don't think Briggs or anyone is suggesting we panic, but we'd like to maybe see some move to try to stir things up.

We can't ostrich our way to a starting line up fix.

100%. Were 16% into the season— a good sample size. I think we’ve all seen material inconsistency from many players. Time to choose an alternate route— time to shake things up. We are still 7/6 but we’re a lucky 7-6.
Maybe put Fournier on unit 2 and Burks into unit 1. Extend obis minutes cut Randle to 32. Cut the center position to 30 min— give Grimes 18-20. Many things we can do— status quo is not working. Or we can be patient and stay inconsistent.

Its not a question of patience or not, its a question of going with what you know until you know something else. Thibs said it the other day he won’t let the season slip and something has to be done.
It could very well be changing up things. Its part of the intrigue and be fun to behold.
Personally I’d like to see Knox get some minutes at the 3 and move RJ to the 2 if Evan’s minutes are being eaten. But pulling out of the starting lineup to the second creates other issues.
The chess game is facinationg, wish we could sit in on coaches meetings and hear the debates amung them.

These Knicks remind me of the Giants in their glory days when their line would try to control the pace of the game - except we're not good enough to do it much of the time. Thibs has his work cut out for him for sure.

I’d like to see Fournier run screens like Reggie Miller, side to side, back and forth.

We are so easy to defend.

With Mitch & Toppin, we should be trying to get them at least 10 easy shots a game. Don’t tell me it can’t be done.

And why do we continue to struggle against the zone like a JV HS team?

franco12 wrote:Briggs, we’re simply not that good.

My wish in the off season would have been to sign Ball. I haven’t watched the bulls play, but maybe the move would have been for DeRozan or Spencer Dinwiddie.

Walker’s signing doesn’t look like a deal, it looks like an over pay. Dude should be on a vet min deal and on the bench for use in an emergency/desperation. He has 10 minutes max of impact which you may or may not get any given night.

I think Thibs has to go Larry Brown on this Knick roster and try some different combos.

If you don’t want to start Rose, try Grimes.

We’re not as good as our record is and as we play more games, we prove it.

With teams like Miami, the Wizards, the Bulls & Toronto all making big improvements in the off season, I could see us missing the play offs altogether.

While I agree about Kemba...and think sharing out his mins during the season is a good idea, I also think having him on board in the Playoffs may pay off on his deal. He can step up and loves MSG limelight. For what's basically a one year deal, I like the signing.

That said, I am not at all impressed with EF and would rather have had Ball than EF+KW.

franco12 wrote:My wish in the off season would have been to sign Ball. I haven’t watched the bulls play, but maybe the move would have been for DeRozan or Spencer Dinwiddie.

A good portion of us wanted Ball, but unfortunately he went to Chicago. DeRozan is not an ideal solution in the long run, which I wrote, but in the short term he is certainly a much "stronger" player than Fournier. So the Bulls hit pretty good with reinforcements and now they have a LaVine-DeRozan-Ball-Vucevic core which is realistically a lot stronger than our core.