[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

New suggested rotation
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum
Page 1 of 3  1  2  3 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
Author Thread
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
11/11/2021  7:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/11/2021  7:14 AM
Minutes
Unit 1
Noel— 22 minutes
Randle -32 minutes
Barrett-28 minutes
Fournier -20 minutes
Iq -24
Taj Gibson 16 minutes
Obi-24 min
Rose 24 min
Grimes 20 min
Burks 20 min


Spot Robinson and knox. Kemba out
I’d also consider removing Fournier from starter to unit 2 if he doesn’t pick it up

RIP Crushalot😞
AUTOADVERT
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
11/11/2021  7:54 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Minutes
Unit 1
Noel— 22 minutes
Randle -32 minutes
Barrett-28 minutes
Fournier -20 minutes
Iq -24
Taj Gibson 16 minutes
Obi-24 min
Rose 24 min
Grimes 20 min
Burks 20 min


Spot Robinson and knox. Kemba out
I’d also consider removing Fournier from starter to unit 2 if he doesn’t pick it up

I actually say we should flop over the starters and 2nd unit. Rose, IQ, Burks, Obi, Gibson.
Randle can be first off the bench, along with RJ.

I agree with the statement that maybe Kemba needs more time to rehab. Have Grimes come off the bench as your PG.
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
11/11/2021  8:19 AM
I said before yesterdays game the Mitch and Fournier should come off the bench or their minutes needs to be reduced.

The guys on the bench are only good for limited minutes as well, Rose and Burks are effective 25 minutes guys, beyond that they struggle.

Once we got back in the game, Randle and RJ should have came back in to finished it off

ES
SergioNYK
Posts: 22536
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/8/2002
Member: #333
USA
11/11/2021  10:06 AM
I'm giving this unit until Christmas. I really do not wanna mess with our bench cause it's one of the best in the league and our biggest strength. I also wanna give Kemba and Fournier every opportunity. Of course that can easily change if we fall under .500 and these type of losses continue.
fishmike
Posts: 53803
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
11/11/2021  11:29 AM
where's Mitch?
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
NYKBocker
Posts: 38395
Alba Posts: 474
Joined: 1/14/2003
Member: #377
USA
11/11/2021  11:33 AM
From a coaches stand point, I think you can't make these drastic changes so early in the season. However, I think the first step is having a quicker hook on all players. You don't play defense you get yanked and you stay out. Similar to what they did to Payton last year.
TheGame
Posts: 26632
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 7/15/2006
Member: #1154
USA
11/11/2021  12:19 PM
Not sure what is up with Kemba but he looks done right now. IQ should definitely get those minutes. If Kemba does not play better by the end of the year, they will probably come up some fake injury so he can save face and sit him for the rest of the year until playoff time.
Trust the Process
BigDaddyG
Posts: 39752
Alba Posts: 9
Joined: 1/22/2010
Member: #3049
11/11/2021  12:35 PM
TheGame wrote:Not sure what is up with Kemba but he looks done right now. IQ should definitely get those minutes. If Kemba does not play better by the end of the year, they will probably come up some fake injury so he can save face and sit him for the rest of the year until playoff time.

It's hard for undersized guards who lose their burst. He'll get hot from three and have scoring bursts, but that's hard to do consistently unless you're Steph Curry. Might need to force-feed him more PnRs.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
knicks1248
Posts: 42059
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #582
11/11/2021  12:58 PM
fishmike wrote:where's Mitch?

hopefully out of the rotation

ES
Nalod
Posts: 71078
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
11/11/2021  1:21 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I said before yesterdays game the Mitch and Fournier should come off the bench or their minutes needs to be reduced.

The guys on the bench are only good for limited minutes as well, Rose and Burks are effective 25 minutes guys, beyond that they struggle.

Once we got back in the game, Randle and RJ should have came back in to finished it off

Yeah, but unless you start you own thread it kinda inhibits your confidence in the statement.

I saw some mention as Grimes as PG? Is he now the fix it kind of 3 positional bench hope dude?
Nalod
Posts: 71078
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
11/11/2021  1:22 PM
NYKBocker wrote:From a coaches stand point, I think you can't make these drastic changes so early in the season. However, I think the first step is having a quicker hook on all players. You don't play defense you get yanked and you stay out. Similar to what they did to Payton last year.

But Fans can and think they are correct. After all, the though is “since we will lose, what do we have to lose, thus my suggetion is not better at its very worse then what thibs is doing and as a fan I have the benefit of hindsight. Yeah me!”
NYKBocker
Posts: 38395
Alba Posts: 474
Joined: 1/14/2003
Member: #377
USA
11/11/2021  1:35 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
TheGame wrote:Not sure what is up with Kemba but he looks done right now. IQ should definitely get those minutes. If Kemba does not play better by the end of the year, they will probably come up some fake injury so he can save face and sit him for the rest of the year until playoff time.
It's hard for undersized guards who lose their burst. He'll get hot from three and have scoring bursts, but that's hard to do consistently unless you're Steph Curry. Might need to force-feed him more PnRs.
blkexec
Posts: 28294
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 9/3/2004
Member: #748
11/11/2021  2:30 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
TheGame wrote:Not sure what is up with Kemba but he looks done right now. IQ should definitely get those minutes. If Kemba does not play better by the end of the year, they will probably come up some fake injury so he can save face and sit him for the rest of the year until playoff time.

It's hard for undersized guards who lose their burst. He'll get hot from three and have scoring bursts, but that's hard to do consistently unless you're Steph Curry. Might need to force-feed him more PnRs.

I agree....when you are 6ft and under, you rely on change of speed and first step to create separation. With Kemba's age and more importantly his injury history, he definitely lost a step or 2. Steph Curry is 6'3 and a much better shooter, so I'm not sure its a fair comparison. Steph is also being mentioned with some of the greatest NBA players ever.

Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland. The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
Nalod
Posts: 71078
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
11/11/2021  3:13 PM
Curry’s range is a weapon. It gives him space. He is not the quickest or the strongest. But even avg NBA guard speed is no joke and few can stay in front of. That ranges gives him penetration ability. His dad has good longevity because of the range an quick release. Steph is that much better. Not sure where his rankings goes but its high.
Nalod always be talking about not signing midget guards past 30. Chris Paul defies this and there are others. But Kemba is a very typical case in point. Kyrie is heading that way perhaps given his history. Phil Ford, Nate Archibald, Baron Davis are three all time greats struck down from injury.
Kemba at 8mm per is not a big risk. I hope like Hell I am wrong!!!!
BigDaddyG
Posts: 39752
Alba Posts: 9
Joined: 1/22/2010
Member: #3049
11/11/2021  3:45 PM
blkexec wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
TheGame wrote:Not sure what is up with Kemba but he looks done right now. IQ should definitely get those minutes. If Kemba does not play better by the end of the year, they will probably come up some fake injury so he can save face and sit him for the rest of the year until playoff time.

It's hard for undersized guards who lose their burst. He'll get hot from three and have scoring bursts, but that's hard to do consistently unless you're Steph Curry. Might need to force-feed him more PnRs.

I agree....when you are 6ft and under, you rely on change of speed and first step to create separation. With Kemba's age and more importantly his injury history, he definitely lost a step or 2. Steph Curry is 6'3 and a much better shooter, so I'm not sure its a fair comparison. Steph is also being mentioned with some of the greatest NBA players ever.

I wasn't trying to compare the two, just that it's rare for guards to consistently score consistently solely with their Js. Especially with the new foul rules. Steph is an outlier. Kemba in his prime leveraged his quickness to be able to consistently get clean shots. This new Kemba is going to be prone to bouts of streakiness.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
fishmike
Posts: 53803
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
11/11/2021  4:24 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
fishmike wrote:where's Mitch?

hopefully out of the rotation

lol cause he's a liability like Rudy Gobert yeah? Man you are special
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Nalod
Posts: 71078
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
11/11/2021  6:24 PM
Rainman not happy unless he has someone to hate on………..
franco12
Posts: 34069
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/19/2004
Member: #599
USA
11/11/2021  9:05 PM
realistically, we should move Rose into the starting line up. I might also move Burks in as well.
JesseDark
Posts: 22773
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 9/9/2003
Member: #467
11/11/2021  9:33 PM
Kemba reminds of when Jkidd was done he gave us a good half a year then his production when off the cliff.
Bring back dee-fense
LivingLegend
Posts: 25474
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 8/13/2007
Member: #1645
11/11/2021  10:22 PM
Doesn’t look like Thibs is going to adjust much and even with Kemba looking washed I highly doubt he would be pulled from rotation.

Regarding moving IQ into unit 1 - I really don’t want to separate IQ from Obi or Rose.

My thought was moving Burks into Kemba spot with Grimes replacing Burke’s with unit 2.

Burke’s though not a pg does play pick/roll well and his size would give us nice switch ability maybe reducing double teams - open 3s. Plus he still spreads the floor but can handle/attack.

Grimes would be nice fit with Rose/IQ/Obi/Mitch on 2nd unit.
Page 1 of 3  1  2  3 Next ›
« Reply To Topic
New suggested rotation
Forum Index  ›  NY Knicks Forum

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy