ToddTT wrote:If we keep defending like this, most teams are better than us.

They were on fire.
But realism. We can’t guard two premium 7 footers. Makes everyone of the perimeter players better

Their zone defense is very good. Long arms lebngth for days

TPercy wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

ToddTT wrote:If we keep defending like this, most teams are better than us.

Yeah, this team has become too reliant on pull-up threes. It's an important skill, but the team isn't going to be as efficient taking them over the long haul. This team isn't good enough to think. It can just gunsling it's way to a W.

If I'm being honest, thats a lot of teams in this league. And I think we've done a good job at creating looks for 3s but yes we are reliant on them.

Yeah, but those teams, at least the good ones, also run consistently effective motions on offense and get into the paint to create good spot up opportunities. I don't feel the shots have been coming as easily and we've just been really hot. Let's be real. Kemba ain't gonna keep shooting like this. We're going going to need him to consistently take the paint.

fitzfarm wrote:No Ricky rubio had the game of his life…. Knicks are the better team no debate

The Rubio argument would be fine except Mobley (a rookie that Randle definitely thought he could take to school) shot 11-15 and Allen completely overwhelmed Mitch and Garland didn't exactly shoot poor from 3 himself.

How exactly are the Knicks better than Cleveland right now?

Allanfan20 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:No Ricky rubio had the game of his life…. Knicks are the better team no debate

The Rubio argument would be fine except Mobley (a rookie that Randle definitely thought he could take to school) shot 11-15 and Allen completely overwhelmed Mitch and Garland didn't exactly shoot poor from 3 himself.

How exactly are the Knicks better than Cleveland right now?

Knicks shot 9-31 from 3.....missing a significant amount of open looks. Cavs shot 19-35 from 3 (54%). Thats 30 extra points from 3. They were certainly better last night, but hard to really say who's better overall when the shooting normalizes to average. For instance is Rubio going to average
90% from 3 for the year? If he shot to his career average (32%) the game/score is close.

foosballnick wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:No Ricky rubio had the game of his life…. Knicks are the better team no debate

The Rubio argument would be fine except Mobley (a rookie that Randle definitely thought he could take to school) shot 11-15 and Allen completely overwhelmed Mitch and Garland didn't exactly shoot poor from 3 himself.

How exactly are the Knicks better than Cleveland right now?

Knicks shot 9-31 from 3.....missing a significant amount of open looks. Cavs shot 19-35 from 3 (54%). Thats 30 extra points from 3. They were certainly better last night, but hard to really say who's better overall when the shooting normalizes to average. For instance is Rubio going to average
90% from 3 for the year? If he shot to his career average (32%) the game/score is close.

Their best 3 point shooter missed 5. They played without sexton. Rubio was unreal but we lost because their big men dominated. ThTs not including Laurie M

BRIGGS wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:No Ricky rubio had the game of his life…. Knicks are the better team no debate

The Rubio argument would be fine except Mobley (a rookie that Randle definitely thought he could take to school) shot 11-15 and Allen completely overwhelmed Mitch and Garland didn't exactly shoot poor from 3 himself.

How exactly are the Knicks better than Cleveland right now?

They aren’t but Cavs are likely a playoff team this year as are we

Look at their zone defense. They put Mobley up top! It’s nasty good and that’s with two smallish guards

How about looking at how our defense absolutely sucked. When it wasn't raining Rubio threes, they were getting wide open dunks.
Too much standing around, staring at each other.

How the hell does Mitch rotate and leave DRose alone under the basket?

TPercy wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

ToddTT wrote:If we keep defending like this, most teams are better than us.

Yeah, this team has become too reliant on pull-up threes. It's an important skill, but the team isn't going to be as efficient taking them over the long haul. This team isn't good enough to think. It can just gunsling it's way to a W.

If I'm being honest, thats a lot of teams in this league. And I think we've done a good job at creating looks for 3s but yes we are reliant on them.

Exactly. If you don't have dangerous 3 point shooters, if you can't generate 3's or have guys who can pull up and hit a 3 when needed, you are pretty much toast in this league. Its the reason we went out and got Fournier and Kemba in the offseason. It's the reason RJ has been working tirelessly on becoming a better 3 point shooter.

And I'm not sure how you can say they are reliant on it when they can (and DO) throw the ball to Julius on a regular basis to attack the rim and make something happen.

Bottom line, to win in this league -especially this year now that the refs and letting the defense play- you have to play tenacious D and hit your shots.