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BRIGGS
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10/28/2021  10:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2021  10:55 PM
I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

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Knickoftime
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10/28/2021  10:45 PM
BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Then who replaces Fournier, which you suggested Grimes replace a week ago?

Genuine question.

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10/28/2021  10:51 PM
Five games in and you want to replace Quickley with a rookie. Just relax. The problem in the fourth had more to do with the Knicks still trying to figure out how to close games. We were up 13 with two and a half minutes left. We just went cold and Randle kept trying to force the issue.
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10/28/2021  11:05 PM
BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

I thought Obi was really playing nicely when he got pulled - felt sudden and not in the flow.

We won, wheh. I'm not going to criticize Thibs too much, but I think the observations have merit.

I felt like Walker didn't have anything left in his tank at the end, and thought we needed Rose back out there.

Good thing we won- otherwise i would have had to post 60 win teams don't lose games like that.

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10/28/2021  11:06 PM
Replace Immanuel Quickley?

The SEC player of the Year out of Kentucky?

An NBA Rookie last year who drained 100+ 3's, a beautiful floater, 90%+ FT% and a team USA Select Selection?

And you want to replace this kid only 5 games into the season at 4-1 overall?

Um. No. Heck no.

BRIGGS
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10/28/2021  11:10 PM
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

I thought Obi was really playing nicely when he got pulled - felt sudden and not in the flow.

We won, wheh. I'm not going to criticize Thibs too much, but I think the observations have merit.

I felt like Walker didn't have anything left in his tank at the end, and thought we needed Rose back out there.

Good thing we won- otherwise i would have had to post 60 win teams don't lose games like that.

We can be better than we are. IQ has not been playing well--time to give Grimes 5 games. Obi has proven to give the Knicks a shot in the arm with easy 2's. Whatever way we can find to get him to 20-24 we should. Hes 6-9 and a different type of player than anyone else on the team. Rose is still the 2nd best player on th team--sometimes the best. Hes our guy. Hes got to be in there at the end in tough games. Id be comfortable with both kemba and Rose if needed.

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10/28/2021  11:10 PM
franco12 wrote:
Good thing we won- otherwise i would have had to post 60 win teams don't lose games like that.

Given it's unlikely they're a 60 win team, that makes perfect sense.

60 wins overwhelm the league with talent.

Not moxie.

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10/28/2021  11:14 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2021  11:15 PM
NYKMentality wrote:Replace Immanuel Quickley?

The SEC player of the Year out of Kentucky?

An NBA Rookie last year who drained 100+ 3's, a beautiful floater, 90%+ FT% and a team USA Select Selection?

And you want to replace this kid only 5 games into the season at 4-1 overall?

Um. No. Heck no.

Agreed. He’s been way too good to take out of the rotation. His play is infectious too

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10/28/2021  11:16 PM
BRIGGS wrote:We can be better than we are. IQ has not been playing well--time to give Grimes 5 games.

So you won't answer inconvenient questions.

Check.

So I'll remark.

YOU thought 4 games was enough to decide Fourmier and Walker were struggling and expressed a similar sentiment as this one - they should maybe be replaced.

Did you or did you not learn sometimes what a player struggling for a few games needs most is a few more games.

That's sports 101.

Do you understand that or not?

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10/28/2021  11:17 PM
Taj getting 20 minutes to Obi’s 12 on average the last 3 games. That needs to be reversed. When Mitch comes out in the 1st, play Obi with Randle for a few minutes then Taj can come in for Randle. What happens when Noel returns, does Obi go back to 10 minutes like last year? The kid has too much talent and yes he still makes mistakes on defense but he brings an element to this team that nobody else does.
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10/28/2021  11:21 PM
BMart wrote:Taj getting 20 minutes to Obi’s 12 on average the last 3 games. That needs to be reversed. When Mitch comes out in the 1st, play Obi with Randle for a few minutes then Taj can come in for Randle. What happens when Noel returns, does Obi go back to 10 minutes like last year? The kid has too much talent and yes he still makes mistakes on defense but he brings an element to this team that nobody else does.

Taj was getting run tonight because it’s a revenge game and he’s super motivated

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10/29/2021  12:25 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:We can be better than we are. IQ has not been playing well--time to give Grimes 5 games.
So you won't answer inconvenient questions.

Check.

So I'll remark.

YOU thought 4 games was enough to decide Fourmier and Walker were struggling and expressed a similar sentiment as this one - they should maybe be replaced.

Did you or did you not learn sometimes what a player struggling for a few games needs most is a few more games.

That's sports 101.

Do you understand that or not?

Kemba Walker = 4x All-Star.

2017 = All Star.
2018 = All Star.
2019 = All Star.
2020 = All Star.

How NYK fans could doubt him after 1 or 2 games on a new team was beyond me. Acting like he was washed up? It was a joke to me.

Boston Celtics messed up BIG TIME by letting him walk into NYKs laps and PS he's a TRAE YOUNG KILLER @ 3-1 ALL TIME vs him (.750%).

We just upgraded and went from Elfrid freaking Payton to a 31 year old 4x All-Star @ PG and a handful of fans wanted to give Kemba Walker the "business" early on?

Made no sense to me!

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10/29/2021  6:07 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/29/2021  6:09 AM
We’re 4-1 but we’ve been awful in the 4 th Q. It cost us against Orlando and nearly cost us two more games w Boston and Chicago. The answer isn’t well we eon. I think the answer Shouod be what can we do to improve. I’m glad we are 4-1 but we easily could be 2-3. I think adjustments are in order.

Derrick Rose is our closer. Period or Shouod be.
Obi Shouod play more— he’s earned more pt. He’s our path to easier buckets and better tempo

I think Quickley is shooting 27%. He’s a part time player — role player. Let’s give Grimes 5 games now at the same spot. Let’s not crybaby. Let’s improve

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10/29/2021  6:47 AM
BRIGGS wrote:We’re 4-1 but we’ve been awful in the 4 th Q. It cost us against Orlando and nearly cost us two more games w Boston and Chicago. The answer isn’t well we eon. I think the answer Shouod be what can we do to improve. I’m glad we are 4-1 but we easily could be 2-3. I think adjustments are in order.

Derrick Rose is our closer. Period or Shouod be.
Obi Shouod play more— he’s earned more pt. He’s our path to easier buckets and better tempo

I think Quickley is shooting 27%. He’s a part time player — role player. Let’s give Grimes 5 games now at the same spot. Let’s not crybaby. Let’s improve

Obi is the energizer bunny- that energy can be infectious. We should be running some set plays at the end of games when teams are pressing on defense to get him easy dunks at the basket. Smart teams do that.

IQ is struggling. Is it sophomore jinx? Is it trying to adjust to having Rose & Walker out there? Other scorers where we don’t need IQ to shoot as much?

I don’t know that it would be horrible to sit IQ & give Grimes a shot. I don’t know about 5 games, but one or two?

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10/29/2021  7:23 AM
Ball played intense Defnense on Randle. Bulls Broadcasters, including Stacy King was very complementary to him and the knicks .
Pointed out Randle not shooting well but was passing and not forcing it. Yeah, knicks need to tighten things up. If Obi comes in who comes out?
Fournier went cold last night.
Leads are not always held in the NBA. Vooch is an offensive all star center and a problem for teams.
Leads lost are not games lost. Credit Bulls for nice try.
ONly complaint is when randle gets ball they sneak up on him from behind. Happend vs. Orlando in the loss.
But he is handling the double team much better now. Double-double last night, and that made the difference. OUr back court was clutch.
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10/29/2021  7:31 AM
With the constant clammoring for change after every game just wondering is some fans have the ability to just enjoy the ride. This team is playing well and fun to watch. Athlete performance is not linear.
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10/29/2021  7:39 AM
Through 5 games, there are things that I like and things I don’t. I have a real issue with guys forcing shots. It’s infectious. Randle, Fournier, and Quickley are the biggest culprits. All can get hot and go on a tear. All of them may have the green light from Thibs (I don’t know) but I think guys like Burks and Barrett facilitate a bit more.

Randle is certainly tasked with being the primary in a bit of a heliocentric basketball model. When in doubt the ball goes through him. Fournier appears to be the second option though I would argue that role belongs to Kemba. Off the bench Rose is the primary but it seemed like Quicks has the green light from Thibs.

I do not mind these guys shooting, I just think they force a few too many shots rather than being patient and waiting for the right shot. It’s great that these guys can find those shots with 2 secs left on the shot clock, it’s different for me when there is 15 seconds. Not even a SSOL scenario. Just some mediocre shot selection.

Not saying we drop Fournier or Quickley or that we denote Randle, just saying they need to work on shot selection a little better.

I love love what Barrett is doing this season. I love love everything else about Randle other than his shot selection.

Fournier and Quickley need to simmer down a bit. Attack the paint.

Side thought on Quickley is that he looks like he packed on some muscle over the offseason. There was a floater he missed at the end of the game where I was think that he looked like he could have gone in for the layup/dunk though he would have drawn contact. I think he might be strong enough now to take that contact and finish. I kind of want to see him taking that contact and getting to the line. I think he might be stronger than he thinks and is settling for deep threes and floaters.

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10/29/2021  7:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/29/2021  7:46 AM
Nalod wrote:Ball played intense Defnense on Randle. Bulls Broadcasters, including Stacy King was very complementary to him and the knicks .
Pointed out Randle not shooting well but was passing and not forcing it. Yeah, knicks need to tighten things up. If Obi comes in who comes out?
Fournier went cold last night.
Leads are not always held in the NBA. Vooch is an offensive all star center and a problem for teams.
Leads lost are not games lost. Credit Bulls for nice try.
ONly complaint is when randle gets ball they sneak up on him from behind. Happend vs. Orlando in the loss.
But he is handling the double team much better now. Double-double last night, and that made the difference. OUr back court was clutch.

3/5 games 4 th quarter break downs. That’s not the formula we want to follow. We need an adjustment to play better.

I think saying let’s let D Rose play( even with Kemba)
Giving obi some of the center minutes and changing up Grimes for iq are all ressonable moves that have almost zero change on the core of this team. If Iq was playing well after 5 games no reason for the change but the fact is he’s been erratic. On the other hand obi is not playing enough. He Shouod get all of Randle back up minutes and 10 more from
The center position. Playing d Rose even with kemba down the stretch is a no brainer. He gets the best shots on the team and he doesn’t turn it over. I don’t want the ball to be dominated by Randle — it’s not as good
Look at the amount of 4 th Q 3s we’re taking. That’s bad game planning— we want good shots down the stretch. Rose gives us that

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10/29/2021  7:45 AM
foosballnick wrote:With the constant clammoring for change after every game just wondering is some fans have the ability to just enjoy the ride. This team is playing well and fun to watch. Athlete performance is not linear.

I’m used to us starting out 1-4 instead of 4-1. I could care less if we win ugly

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10/29/2021  7:49 AM
Philc1 wrote:
foosballnick wrote:With the constant clammoring for change after every game just wondering is some fans have the ability to just enjoy the ride. This team is playing well and fun to watch. Athlete performance is not linear.

I’m used to us starting out 1-4 instead of 4-1. I could care less if we win ugly

Winning ugly will turn into losing quickly. But I feel good that we can rectify. In sports u always want to try and improve. We played poorly and got lucky. Let’s alter a few things

RIP Crushalot😞
I’m glad we won by we need some alterations

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