Knixkik wrote:Turning down the big contract isn't on Rich Paul. But if he did not return calls or act on behalf of his client than that's different. Naming Brett Brown was big. If he provides some sort of proof than this might have legs. People who read the headline will focus on the contract, but the details of essentially freezing out his own client is the real issue here.

At the end of the day NOEL makes the final decision, your agent can advise all he wants, nobody knows you better than you, and he knows damn well he's not a max player and never has been(those are usually two way high level players) something he's not.

Turning down 70 mill because LBJ friend told you..lol

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:You hire a agent to negotiate deals, you hire a manager to give you advise and manage your career.

At the end of the day NOEL makes the final decision, your agent can advise all he wants, nobody knows you better than you, and he knows damn well he's not a max player and never has been(those are usually two way high level players) something he's not.

Turning down 70 mill because LBJ friend told you..lol

100%. If Noel was given an offer sheet of 70 mm and turned it down. Advice what have you. That’s on him. What’s the difference between 70 and 90 million? Answer at that point not much. Noel is a greedy fool who is the ultimate boss. Now if he got an offer similar and wasn’t told — and there is legit proof— whole different ball game.

jrodmc wrote:The Post's version basically makes it a case of negligence; Nerlens wasn't a big enough fish to spend time returning phone calls on. I'm honestly trying to figure out what the hell would Rich Paul get out of "freezing" Noel out?

Knixkik wrote:Turning down the big contract isn't on Rich Paul. But if he did not return calls or act on behalf of his client than that's different. Naming Brett Brown was big. If he provides some sort of proof than this might have legs. People who read the headline will focus on the contract, but the details of essentially freezing out his own client is the real issue here.

I hadn't heard that piece about Brett.

https://www.si.com/nba/76ers/news/former-sixers-coach-brett-brown-nerlens-noel-agent

But former Sixers head coach Brett Brown allegedly proved that wasn't the case. In Heitner's report, he notes that Noel initially learned from his former head that the 76ers were reaching out to his representatives during the offseason to try and work out a deal for a reunion. Rich Paul "refused to respond," according to the report.

Later on, Noel reportedly found out that was the case with several teams. Over the last few years, Noel has been a free agent twice. Both times, the Sixers were rumored to be linked to the big man as he would've been a stellar backup for the team's MVP finalist Joel Embiid.

Each time Noel was linked to the Sixers but never actually signed, there was never any concrete proof as to whether there was truly an effort to sign Noel or not. While Paul hasn't confirmed or denied wrongdoing on his behalf, the report indicates that the Sixers attempted to form a Nerlens Noel reunion a few years back. Unfortunately, it seems they weren't able to negotiate properly.

If you have actual names and officials who can substantiate that - that's pretty damning. It ended up working out in our favor, but hope Noel gets paid!

BRIGGS wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:You hire a agent to negotiate deals, you hire a manager to give you advise and manage your career.

At the end of the day NOEL makes the final decision, your agent can advise all he wants, nobody knows you better than you, and he knows damn well he's not a max player and never has been(those are usually two way high level players) something he's not.

Turning down 70 mill because LBJ friend told you..lol

100%. If Noel was given an offer sheet of 70 mm and turned it down. Advice what have you. That’s on him. What’s the difference between 70 and 90 million? Answer at that point not much. Noel is a greedy fool who is the ultimate boss. Now if he got an offer similar and wasn’t told — and there is legit proof— whole different ball game.

How can both of you render an opinion when you don’t ask the right questions?

The difference between 70 to 90 is 28%.

jrodmc wrote:The Post's version basically makes it a case of negligence; Nerlens wasn't a big enough fish to spend time returning phone calls on. I'm honestly trying to figure out what the hell would Rich Paul get out of "freezing" Noel out?

Question is, why did he wait so long? This happened in 2017. Especially only after Klutch recently filed a grievance claiming Noel had not paid commission on his first NY contract. The timing is suspicious.

Understand how that decision was a kick in the nuts though. He probably has not had a good night's sleep since he turned that deal down.

At the end of the day, it's on Noel, unless Paul was directed to take the deal and he refused or if Paul guaranteed a bigger deal in writing. Noel is the one that knew what was on the table and got a bit greedy and then got unlucky with the injury. Us normal folk just do not understand how anyone can turn down $70M guaranteed. But these guys are dealing with absurd money.

Time to ice those marbles........

Why wait? Maybe now that he got a multi year deal the damage is measurable? Maybe it took time for the laywers to build a case and they got testimonial that can verify? Remember they have to demonstrate to a court there is a case before the go to trial. Most get negotiated settlement. Mabye it has no leg to stand on? Maybe Paul is adamant that he is golden and Norlens holding his commission is him just having regret?
I don’t know.