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martin
Posts: 77067 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/4/2021 5:05 PM
FO did this all right IMHO
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Knixkik
Posts: 35510 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
8/4/2021 8:53 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:I really hate that we traded the #19 for two seconds in 2026 or whatever it is It will he traded again before it’s ever used. |
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NYKMentality
Posts: 23995 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/12/2012 Member: #4385 |
8/4/2021 9:04 PM
Philc1 wrote:I evaluate offseasons based on whether the starting 5 is upgraded. Based on below Id say yes Yes and our bench is much improved too. C: Nerlens Noel. That's disgusting man. All 5 of Rose/Quickley/Burks/Obi/Nerlens will have more team experience and better chemistry during year #2 under coach Thibs too. Both McBride and Grimes should give us more heart and hustle than Elfrid/Frank too. And more importantly Julius Randle at only 26-27 now has the potential to out up MVP production because not only were his numbers damn near identical to MVP Jokić last year but he became the first NBA player to average over 20/10/5/+.400% from 3 since Larry Bird's MVP season. Julius had a bad playoff series vs. ATL but his 2020 season was even greater than most realize. Kemba Walker is the X-Factor. 4x All-Star and led Boston to the ECF 2019-2020 as their starting PG. He's also a Trae Young killer (4-1 @ .800% against him). Kemba is not only going to take pressure off of Julius Randle but he's also going to make sure both R.J. Barrett flourishes and Mitchell Robinson FEASTS. With both Kemba Walker/Mitchell Robinson as starters (at full strength) and with Derrick Rose back to the bench as our sparkplug? We're much better than ATL. |
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franco12
Posts: 34069 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
8/4/2021 9:24 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:Kemet wrote:SupremeCommander wrote:I really hate that we traded the #19 for two seconds in 2026 or whatever it is I wanted Kemba out of college- i thought he was a very big time cold blooded winner. Here is the biggest problem I have- we kinda got lucky with Kemba. And maybe we knew he was going to be released. Maybe we worked behind the scenes to know that or make it happen. Maybe Fournier was part of a Kemba package. As it stands now, things look pretty good. I want to be optimistic. Fournier is an upgrade over Bullock, but it’s a lot of money and I think we over paid. I would have liked to go after a player like Ball and be building for the next 5 years- meaning adding a potential star that was the same age as IQ, RJ, et al. But no long term contracts, thank god, and we are built for today. I don’t think this is a championship contender. Kemba, Rose are two old, too many miles. Hopefully we get back to the play offs, get past the first round this time. I don’t know we can ask for more. |
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Philc1
Posts: 28512 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
8/4/2021 9:39 PM LAST EDITED: 8/4/2021 9:40 PM
NYKMentality wrote:Philc1 wrote:I evaluate offseasons based on whether the starting 5 is upgraded. Based on below Id say yes We significantly upgraded at both PG and SF. Maintained long term cap flexibility. I also still don’t think a superstar in 2022 is out of possibility tho it be would likely have to involve a sign and trade with Randle and/or Mitch I’m more concerned with staying relevant than beating the hawks. Who knows if we even bump into them next playoffs |
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FrenchFreak
Posts: 20062 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/2/2017 Member: #7568 |
8/5/2021 8:09 AM
For me the most important thing to remember is that there wasn’t even a theoretical path to getting the Knicks to the level of the Bucks or Nets this offseason. Admitting that fact- I think Leon Rose and company had a brilliant offseason.
The starting 5 is clearly better. Fournier is a much more dynamic offensive player than Bullock and Kemba is in a different category than Payton. Coupled with a (hopefully) healthy Mitch and you’ve got a tough starting 5. I think the bench is now top 5 in the league and it’s set up to give IQ and Obi the chance to continue to improve. Heck, we have interesting young guys like Grimes and McBride who will be lucky to see the floor this year. And perhaps most important- the roster construction kept the long term plan intact. We still have our draft assets and none of the contracts will hamstring us beyond the next two years. If healthy, I think every contract on the books is tradeable if need be. The one big decision that I’m on the fence on is whether to commit long term to Julius on a max deal. Is he the centerpiece for the long term? There seems to be an attitude among a lot of fans these days that you either have a championship contender or you tank. As a 53 year old who’s endured too many unwatchable regular seasons I don’t get that opinion. Give me a competitive team that I can watch all season and I’ll be happy for now. Then If the young guys develop into stars you might have a chance to fight for that championship. Looking forward to a fun year… |
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FrenchFreak
Posts: 20062 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/2/2017 Member: #7568 |
8/5/2021 8:16 AM LAST EDITED: 8/5/2021 8:17 AM
FrenchFreak wrote:For me the most important thing to remember is that there wasn’t even a theoretical path to getting the Knicks to the level of the Bucks or Nets this offseason. Admitting that fact- I think Leon Rose and company had a brilliant offseason. My son texted me that Julius just got a 4 year extension about two minutes after I posted this. I guess we’re going to find out if he’s a long term centerpiece. He could be even better with good point guards around him if he wants to be. |
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
8/5/2021 8:31 AM LAST EDITED: 8/5/2021 8:32 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:They took care of all the teams immediate needs. No complaints from me still want a stretch big....but this was an efficient off season done smoothly and swiftly. Now we can comfortable watch summer league and see what we have in these rookies knowing we won't have to rely on them ES
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xavier
Posts: 20310 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 2/19/2021 Member: #8938 Croatia |
8/5/2021 9:00 AM
Okay, now things make a little more sense. I wasn’t for Kemba, but on a contract like this he is a great catch. We knew we were going to a win now mode and if nothing else, the roster is really nice filled in all positions. Randle’s extension is a great thing because he’s certainly worth more than that. But I would not rule out an attempt at some serious trade during the season. I’m pretty sure the FO will try to bring in Beal or someone like that.
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martin
Posts: 77067 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
8/5/2021 9:00 AM
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foosballnick
Posts: 21535 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/17/2010 Member: #3148 |
8/5/2021 9:16 AM
martin wrote: That's awesome. |