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After the draft netted the knicks Grimes, Mcbride and Sims what moves can you see the Knicks making in free agency?
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Jimbo5
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7/30/2021  2:29 AM
With Grimes and McBride, the knicks have solidified their backcourt. Frank most likely is gone. Burks might be walking out as well. The team needs after the draft hasnt been fully addressed, the knicks still need a starting point guard as well as wing help.

I dont think Rose will be back. Im not sure Luca is also a part of this time next year.

We need a starting PG and a Starting SF. Who will that be?

After the draft, looking at the players the teams just picked, which teams created role redundancies? Can there be new trade candidates that was created with this draft? Who can the knicks new trade targets be? Can Fox be made available? Or Haliburton?

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7/30/2021  6:30 AM
I still think Rose comes back- everything he says is he likes Thibs. He has a solid role here.

Burks does probably leave for a big pay day, though not a lot of teams have money to throw around.

Would like to see us keep Bullock & Noel. I’d love to keep Frank N, but that is such a tortured issue that just maybe it is time to move on.

And then they have to find an upgrade for an attacking pg. Ball?

You make those moves and I give the team an A+ for off season moves.


But I’ll say this - after the moves the FO made in the draft, I have total faith they can pull rabbits out of hats.

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7/30/2021  7:52 AM
Donovan was less than thrilled about SAC and perhaps there was a busted trade issue. He went higher than I thought he would. Thought maybe he had a nice March madness run and would drop to the teens.
Buddy, Fox, Halliburton and now Donovan. Something has to give. Buddy looked to be LA bound before the brilliant trade by Lakers for Westbrook. Thats a big salary to take on but that is so the right move for them at this moment in time. Same for Wiz. They now has smaller pieces they can move if they wish.
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7/30/2021  8:02 AM
Basically the Knicks got a Burks or Bullock replacement in Grimes and a Ntilikina replacement in McBride as a situational defensive backup stopper. No harm in that. Sims profiles as maybe a solid potential 3rd string big and I know he had some fans here. Good value. The euro pick was a punt for now. The trade of 19 told us the Knicks are more concerned about assets than players in this draft. They want to keep the cupboard full. I expect Rose and Gibson back, but I expect us to grab a new starting PG and possibly a new starting wing. The rest probably remains about the same.
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7/30/2021  8:06 AM
I think Rose comes back. PGs will be Rose, Luca, and McBride. The next decision is whether the Knicks see RJ as a SF or SG. I could see them starting Rose, Quickley, RJ, Randle, and Mitch. More than likely they will go after a FA shooting guard though and bring Quickly off the bench.
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7/30/2021  8:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/30/2021  8:15 AM
Knixkik wrote:Basically the Knicks got a Burks or Bullock replacement in Grimes and a Ntilikina replacement in McBride as a situational defensive backup stopper. No harm in that. Sims profiles as maybe a solid potential 3rd string big and I know he had some fans here. Good value. The euro pick was a punt for now. The trade of 19 told us the Knicks are more concerned about assets than players in this draft. They want to keep the cupboard full. I expect Rose and Gibson back, but I expect us to grab a new starting PG and possibly a new starting wing. The rest probably remains about the same.

This analysis seems accurate. Pundits seem to reward the swing for the fence picks. I see guys that will be Knicks rotation players here.

Currently we have 5 rookies on the roster - 4 assuming Rokas is a stash. Sims should get a two way contract to work with the NBA staff and get time with GLeague Westchester - so probably not a full roster spot. You have to wonder if the Knicks will even carry three “rookies” on the 15 man roster.

Vildoza/Grimes/McBride/Jokaitus/Sims

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7/30/2021  8:18 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:This analysis seems accurate. Pundits seem to reward the swing for the fence picks. I see guys that will be Knicks rotation players here.

Currently we have 5 rookies on the roster - 4 assuming Rokas is a stash. Sims should get a two way contract to work with the NBA staff and get time with GLeague Westchester - so probably not a full roster spot. You have to wonder if the Knicks will even carry three “rookies” on the 15 man roster.

Vildoza/Grimes/McBride/Jokaitus/Sims

Rokas is certainly a stash, Luca will get a chance in the summer league and preseason to show if there is a place for him in NBA games, and Sims is certainly far from NBA minutes.

Only Grimes and McBride can count on minutes at this point.

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7/30/2021  8:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/30/2021  8:46 AM
We need a real PG imho I want along term solution not a stop gap. Give me Lonzo or Sexton ..
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7/30/2021  8:50 AM
We just made a deal with Aamir Simms.
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7/30/2021  9:09 AM
TheGame wrote:I think Rose comes back. PGs will be Rose, Luca, and McBride. The next decision is whether the Knicks see RJ as a SF or SG. I could see them starting Rose, Quickley, RJ, Randle, and Mitch. More than likely they will go after a FA shooting guard though and bring Quickly off the bench.

I like the plan just switch out Rose with Reggie Jackson


Unless Rose is willing to do a 1 year deal

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7/30/2021  9:18 AM
still thinking its Reggie Jackson

Clips are a bit handcuffed. SO even if he liked it there he'd probably have to settle for way less than he can get

we would have to be sold on him being more mature and professional (I am), and that his shooting is for real. Guy has a 7' wingspan to boot.

i also can't stop looking at Sacramento as some form of trade partner

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7/30/2021  10:27 AM
1. Play one: try to get Derozan and Lowry to both committ to 3 year 90 million contracts. We can later negotiate a sign and trade with one of SAS or TOR for a minimal asset to whoever gets back to us first. With a sign and trade can preserve enough cap space to resign Rose and Gibson. Pick up Robinsons team opyion use NTP MLE to find a back up center.

2. Play two: If they don't commit extend Lonzo a 25 million per deal and Duncan Robinson 15 million per 3 year deals.

3. Play three: If not 1 or 2, Bargain bin shopping for 1 year deal guys.

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7/30/2021  10:28 AM
The knicks might have potentially drafted another steal in the 2nd round. Going over scouting reports alot of scouts are high on Rokas. If he continues to develop scouts compare him to Goran Dragic. My gut is telling me this Euro stash is better than when Phil even traded up to get his Euro point guard.
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7/30/2021  10:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/30/2021  10:35 AM
Philc1 wrote:
TheGame wrote:I think Rose comes back. PGs will be Rose, Luca, and McBride. The next decision is whether the Knicks see RJ as a SF or SG. I could see them starting Rose, Quickley, RJ, Randle, and Mitch. More than likely they will go after a FA shooting guard though and bring Quickly off the bench.

I like the plan just switch out Rose with Reggie Jackson


Unless Rose is willing to do a 1 year deal

Why would you reward Rose with only a 1 yr deal after what he did for the team.

He can get that deal from 10 other contenders.

Under no circumstance (maybe temporary due to injury) that Rose should start on any team. You saw how he broke down in the last 2 playoff games

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7/30/2021  10:37 AM
Chandler wrote:still thinking its Reggie Jackson

Clips are a bit handcuffed. SO even if he liked it there he'd probably have to settle for way less than he can get

we would have to be sold on him being more mature and professional (I am), and that his shooting is for real. Guy has a 7' wingspan to boot.

i also can't stop looking at Sacramento as some form of trade partner

I can see Reggie Jackson or Devonte Graham , along with Rose coming back. Jackson (or Graham), Rose, Quickley, McBride and Vildoza is a nice group of ball handlers and combo guards with different skill sets.

I see us carrying 3 rookies on the 15 man roster with Grimes, McBride and Vildoza. Sims probably signs a 2-way contract. I bet he and Pinson are the 2-way guys.

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7/30/2021  10:38 AM
gradyandrew wrote:1. Play one: try to get Derozan and Lowry to both committ to 3 year 90 million contracts. We can later negotiate a sign and trade with one of SAS or TOR for a minimal asset to whoever gets back to us first. With a sign and trade can preserve enough cap space to resign Rose and Gibson. Pick up Robinsons team opyion use NTP MLE to find a back up center.

2. Play two: If they don't commit extend Lonzo a 25 million per deal and Duncan Robinson 15 million per 3 year deals.

3. Play three: If not 1 or 2, Bargain bin shopping for 1 year deal guys.

Keep in mind the front office intends to create money for next year for a max contract. I think they can pay Lonzo his big money and just sign a wing to a 1 year overpay deal.

Ideally if Kawhi opts out and the knicks can sign him, if they cant get a good long term point guard maybe the knicks can reunite Kahwi with Lowrey to form a starting 5 of

Mitch, Randle, Kahwi, RJ and Lowrey.

This could be a winner!

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7/30/2021  10:38 AM
I think a lot of teams will be after Rose, but it would be great to get him back. Only way I don't try to re-sign him is if we are making a move for another young lead guard. I just don't think we have the assets at the moment to do that.
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7/30/2021  10:46 AM
Whats the possibility of Fox being fed up by the kings front office planning and demand a trade?

I think the only way the knicks can get fox is by including Randle or RJ. Can Mitch, IQ, knox, oBi plus a couple of 1st be enough,

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7/30/2021  11:25 AM
Knixkik wrote:
Chandler wrote:still thinking its Reggie Jackson

Clips are a bit handcuffed. SO even if he liked it there he'd probably have to settle for way less than he can get

we would have to be sold on him being more mature and professional (I am), and that his shooting is for real. Guy has a 7' wingspan to boot.

i also can't stop looking at Sacramento as some form of trade partner

I can see Reggie Jackson or Devonte Graham , along with Rose coming back. Jackson (or Graham), Rose, Quickley, McBride and Vildoza is a nice group of ball handlers and combo guards with different skill sets.

I see us carrying 3 rookies on the 15 man roster with Grimes, McBride and Vildoza. Sims probably signs a 2-way contract. I bet he and Pinson are the 2-way guys.

i totally expect Rose back. he and Thibs have some form of bromance based on mutual respect.

Graham has torched us so i understand the appeal but i think he's too small. I could see Rozier being a knick but not sure how that would happen. LaMelo is going to start and Rozier won't be happy. Bouknight will be their 2 at some point soon. Maybe a midseason trade?

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7/30/2021  11:30 AM
Jimbo5 wrote:Whats the possibility of Fox being fed up by the kings front office planning and demand a trade?

I think the only way the knicks can get fox is by including Randle or RJ. Can Mitch, IQ, knox, oBi plus a couple of 1st be enough,

love RJ and hear all the karma defenses

but i think a deal centered around RJ and Fox makes sense. Have to give to get

I think Thibs wants an attacking pg, then there's the Kentucky thing

RJ as Sacramento's SG makes sense next ot Halliburton or Mitchell

Also Randle and RJ are each going to make a LOT of money. Once those are done, we won't have enough money for a prime time pg. I think Thibs would prefer a prime time pg

All that said, I'd prefer to keep RJ. I think he's the type of guy who will get better and better every year

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After the draft netted the knicks Grimes, Mcbride and Sims what moves can you see the Knicks making in free agency?

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