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6/17/2021  8:18 PM
2nd team all rookie. Position has to matter right ? Because there’s no other logical reason he misses and Bey and Tate make it. Besides Bane, Quickley was the only impact rookie on a playoff team. Hopefully he uses it as fuel to improve next year.
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6/17/2021  9:01 PM
Knixkik wrote:2nd team all rookie. Position has to matter right ? Because there’s no other logical reason he misses and Bey and Tate make it. Besides Bane, Quickley was the only impact rookie on a playoff team. Hopefully he uses it as fuel to improve next year.
This isn't a rookie MVP voting.
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6/17/2021  9:57 PM
Welpee wrote:
Knixkik wrote:2nd team all rookie. Position has to matter right ? Because there’s no other logical reason he misses and Bey and Tate make it. Besides Bane, Quickley was the only impact rookie on a playoff team. Hopefully he uses it as fuel to improve next year.
This isn't a rookie MVP voting.

Last year barrett gets penalized for putting up numbers on a bad team. This year quickley gets beat out by guys putting up numbers on bad teams.
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6/17/2021  10:07 PM
Knixkik wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Knixkik wrote:2nd team all rookie. Position has to matter right ? Because there’s no other logical reason he misses and Bey and Tate make it. Besides Bane, Quickley was the only impact rookie on a playoff team. Hopefully he uses it as fuel to improve next year.
This isn't a rookie MVP voting.

Last year barrett gets penalized for putting up numbers on a bad team. This year quickley gets beat out by guys putting up numbers on bad teams.

Effing bonkers. If position dosent matter then there’s no ****ing excuse why he isn’t 1st team. Load of absolute crap.

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6/17/2021  10:10 PM
Jesean Tate...the guard version of Quincy Acy got more votes than Quicks. We aren’t watching the game of basketball. Simple as that.
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6/18/2021  2:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/18/2021  2:42 AM
Knixkik wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Knixkik wrote:2nd team all rookie. Position has to matter right ? Because there’s no other logical reason he misses and Bey and Tate make it. Besides Bane, Quickley was the only impact rookie on a playoff team. Hopefully he uses it as fuel to improve next year.
This isn't a rookie MVP voting.

Last year barrett gets penalized for putting up numbers on a bad team. This year quickley gets beat out by guys putting up numbers on bad teams.

TPercy wrote:Jesean Tate...the guard version of Quincy Acy got more votes than Quicks. We aren’t watching the game of basketball. Simple as that.


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TPercy wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Knixkik wrote:2nd team all rookie. Position has to matter right ? Because there’s no other logical reason he misses and Bey and Tate make it. Besides Bane, Quickley was the only impact rookie on a playoff team. Hopefully he uses it as fuel to improve next year.
This isn't a rookie MVP voting.

Last year barrett gets penalized for putting up numbers on a bad team. This year quickley gets beat out by guys putting up numbers on bad teams.

Effing bonkers. If position dosent matter then there’s no ****ing excuse why he isn’t 1st team. Load of absolute crap.

As ignorant as this is it’s not quite as bad as RJ getting totally snubbed last season
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6/18/2021  5:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/18/2021  5:20 AM
Other than Jesean Tate, those other players did have a better year than Quickley, so I don’t see it as a huge snub. I am more concerned with Quick improving his game because he has a lot he needs to work on including his ball handling and decision making. The RJ snub was far worse.
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6/18/2021  7:55 AM
TheGame wrote:Other than Jesean Tate, those other players did have a better year than Quickley, so I don’t see it as a huge snub. I am more concerned with Quick improving his game because he has a lot he needs to work on including his ball handling and decision making. The RJ snub was far worse.

Bey was not good early in the season. He came on really late when the Pistons were flat out tanking and just playing him a ton of minutes. Bey's shooting numbers and eFG% were also worse for the entire year. Context has to matter. At the very least, Quickley was the 4th best rookie this year.
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6/18/2021  8:07 AM
TheGame wrote:Other than Jesean Tate, those other players did have a better year than Quickley, so I don’t see it as a huge snub. I am more concerned with Quick improving his game because he has a lot he needs to work on including his ball handling and decision making. The RJ snub was far worse.

Agreed, only thing he showed us is that he can shoot, no ones really raving about any other part of his game.

He definitely needs to step up his defense because we should have been able to put him on Trae

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6/18/2021  8:37 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/18/2021  8:37 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
TheGame wrote:Other than Jesean Tate, those other players did have a better year than Quickley, so I don’t see it as a huge snub. I am more concerned with Quick improving his game because he has a lot he needs to work on including his ball handling and decision making. The RJ snub was far worse.

Agreed, only thing he showed us is that he can shoot, no ones really raving about any other part of his game.

He definitely needs to step up his defense because we should have been able to put him on Trae

That's a lot to hold him accountable for as a rookie in the playoffs, no? The front office/coaching staff shouldn't have to do that.
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Knixkik wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
TheGame wrote:Other than Jesean Tate, those other players did have a better year than Quickley, so I don’t see it as a huge snub. I am more concerned with Quick improving his game because he has a lot he needs to work on including his ball handling and decision making. The RJ snub was far worse.

Agreed, only thing he showed us is that he can shoot, no ones really raving about any other part of his game.

He definitely needs to step up his defense because we should have been able to put him on Trae

That's a lot to hold him accountable for as a rookie in the playoffs, no? The front office/coaching staff shouldn't have to do that.

I'm mean I'm not expecting him to be all defense, and I'm well aware he's a rookie, I'm just saying he has a lot of developing to do.

He's a good dude with a great work ethic and has a solid coaching staff to help him so i really want to see him raise his IQ.

He has a (shoot first ask questions later) mind set, and that's ok but I would like to see him develop into a true combo guard (patrick Beverly/Lou williams) Type

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6/18/2021  9:20 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/18/2021  9:27 AM
Joke

Yes he has things to work on.

He also could average over 15 ppg on a bad team. He could have also had Atleast 15 games greater than 20 ppg performances this year if played more.


Also provided a futile effort comeback in our final loss. Big heart. Very competitive. Winner mentality.
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6/18/2021  10:05 AM
Knixkik wrote:
TheGame wrote:Other than Jesean Tate, those other players did have a better year than Quickley, so I don’t see it as a huge snub. I am more concerned with Quick improving his game because he has a lot he needs to work on including his ball handling and decision making. The RJ snub was far worse.

Bey was not good early in the season. He came on really late when the Pistons were flat out tanking and just playing him a ton of minutes. Bey's shooting numbers and eFG% were also worse for the entire year. Context has to matter. At the very least, Quickley was the 4th best rookie this year.

I think we're kinda splitting hairs between IQ, Tate and Bey. You could make a legit case for any of them being 1st team and the closeness of the vote between the three indicate that. I probably would lean towards IQ since his numbers are comparable in fewer minutes playing in more meaningful games. But I'm not sure I would consider it a snub. IQ not squeezing on to the 1st team is not egregious in my opinion.
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6/18/2021  10:14 AM
Knixkik wrote:
TheGame wrote:Other than Jesean Tate, those other players did have a better year than Quickley, so I don’t see it as a huge snub. I am more concerned with Quick improving his game because he has a lot he needs to work on including his ball handling and decision making. The RJ snub was far worse.

Bey was not good early in the season. He came on really late when the Pistons were flat out tanking and just playing him a ton of minutes. Bey's shooting numbers and eFG% were also worse for the entire year. Context has to matter. At the very least, Quickley was the 4th best rookie this year.

I don't know who you are comparing Bey to but if it's IQ your statement is wrong. Bey eFG% was 53%, IQ was south of 50%

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6/18/2021  10:28 AM
You swap IQ for Bey who having the bigger impact?
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6/18/2021  10:30 AM
TPercy wrote:You swap IQ for Bey who having the bigger impact?

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6/18/2021  10:35 AM
Would you rather have Bey or IQ? Bey is a plus defender and you’re not finding many people that wouldn’t take him over IQ.

He was the 6-7th best rookie in the class. That’s a huge accomplishment. If we can have the same luck this season we are in great shape.
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6/18/2021  10:41 AM
FWIW TRiple Threat was pushing for Saddiq Bey. looks like a good player
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