Lowry
Barrett
Barnes
Randle
Robinson

Rose
Quickley
Bullock
Toppin
Noel

With Mann,Vildoza and Bassey in development.

The question would be what would Sac want back? If it’s a couple draft picks ok maybe. If they want IQ and/or Obi hell no

Philc1 wrote:He’s owed $38 million next 2 years. We’re already crowded at the 4. Yes he can play SF but we can bring back Burks and Bullock on cheap one year deals

The question would be what would Sac want back? If it’s a couple draft picks ok maybe. If they want IQ and/or Obi hell no

Philc1 wrote:He’s owed $38 million next 2 years. We’re already crowded at the 4. Yes he can play SF but we can bring back Burks and Bullock on cheap one year deals

The question would be what would Sac want back? If it’s a couple draft picks ok maybe. If they want IQ and/or Obi hell no

All season long we talk about needing an upgrade in Talent, If you bring back Burks and Bullock on cheap deals how is that an upgrade.

I think barnes is a pretty solid upgrade, and you can use him in more than one way on both ends.

IMO, I don't see us trading for him unless it's to move up in the draft

Knixkik wrote:

Philc1 wrote:He’s owed $38 million next 2 years. We’re already crowded at the 4. Yes he can play SF but we can bring back Burks and Bullock on cheap one year deals

The question would be what would Sac want back? If it’s a couple draft picks ok maybe. If they want IQ and/or Obi hell no

If Burks and/or Bullock are avaiable on 1 year deals that's a no brainer, but i don't think that will be the case. I think both get MLE offers.

Why? I am assuming you mean full MLE around $9M?

There were only a few guys last year that got the full MLE and they were essentially a special situation. How does Burks/Bullock compare to that level of production and why would they deserve to get a contract like that? Why is a playoff team using essentially the last tool in their shed on those players at that level?

Welpee wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:He’s owed $38 million next 2 years. We’re already crowded at the 4. Yes he can play SF but we can bring back Burks and Bullock on cheap one year deals

The question would be what would Sac want back? If it’s a couple draft picks ok maybe. If they want IQ and/or Obi hell no

All season long we talk about needing an upgrade in Talent, If you bring back Burks and Bullock on cheap deals how is that an upgrade.

I think barnes is a pretty solid upgrade, and you can use him in more than one way on both ends.

IMO, I don't see us trading for him unless it's to move up in the draft

At $20M is the upgrade worth the $14M-$16M additional cap space over what we paid Burks or Bullock? We can probably find similar production elsewhere for less money than we would have to pay Barnes.

Like who? Burks and Bullock were as cost efficient as it got and they are likely getting a slight pay rise this year on longer term deals.

Knixkik wrote:

Philc1 wrote:He’s owed $38 million next 2 years. We’re already crowded at the 4. Yes he can play SF but we can bring back Burks and Bullock on cheap one year deals

The question would be what would Sac want back? If it’s a couple draft picks ok maybe. If they want IQ and/or Obi hell no

If Burks and/or Bullock are avaiable on 1 year deals that's a no brainer, but i don't think that will be the case. I think both get MLE offers.

I dunno. The book is out on Bullock he’s a catch and shoot guy who can play capable not great defense. Trey ran circles around him in the playoffs. Burks had an excellent game 1 and was meh rest of the series plus he has a long injury history. Both guys will get offers but I doubt long term offers

Welpee wrote:

TPercy wrote:

Welpee wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:He’s owed $38 million next 2 years. We’re already crowded at the 4. Yes he can play SF but we can bring back Burks and Bullock on cheap one year deals

The question would be what would Sac want back? If it’s a couple draft picks ok maybe. If they want IQ and/or Obi hell no

All season long we talk about needing an upgrade in Talent, If you bring back Burks and Bullock on cheap deals how is that an upgrade.

I think barnes is a pretty solid upgrade, and you can use him in more than one way on both ends.

IMO, I don't see us trading for him unless it's to move up in the draft

At $20M is the upgrade worth the $14M-$16M additional cap space over what we paid Burks or Bullock? We can probably find similar production elsewhere for less money than we would have to pay Barnes.

Like who? Burks and Bullock were as cost efficient as it got and they are likely getting a slight pay rise this year on longer term deals.

I have no idea who is actually available for a trade, but if healthy what about T.J. Warren? I'm not advocating for him or anything like that, but wouldn't he provide similar production for around 40-50% less money.

Also at this point in his career do you think Barnes is a finished product compared to Oubre? If you had to pay either similar money would you prefer getting what you're getting now out of Barnes or roll the dice on Oubre's potential to elevate his game? I don't know the answers, just putting it out there.

Zach LaVine is actually the guy I want. Either via trade or just waiting until next summer and signing him as an UFA.

I have a big anti-Oubre bias. He's just an athlete that dosen't offer much else.

I'd love Zach Lavine too but....why not both

knicks1248 wrote:

There appears to be trouble brewing in the Big Easy.

Zion Williamson is questioning his relationship with the New Orleans Pelicans because the organization hasn't made him and his family happy, sources told The Athletic's Shams Charania, Joe Vardon, and William Guillory.

Some family members reportedly want the 2019 No. 1 pick to be on another team, adding that there's been internal dysfunction within the club for months.

The Williamsons reportedly found former Pelicans head coach Stan Van Gundy too rigid and demanding. Their "thinly veiled unhappiness" toward the franchise began before the 2020-21 campaign, according to The Athletic.

The trading of veteran guard JJ Redick is said to have irritated Williamson, according to Charania, Vardon, and Guillory. The sharpshooter developed a bond with the rising star over parts of two seasons in New Orleans, and Redick called out Pelicans executive David Griffin on his podcast after being dealt to the Dallas Mavericks at the trade deadline.

Redick's thoughts reportedly influenced some of Williamson's feelings about the Pelicans' direction.

New Orleans has missed the playoffs in each of Williamson's first two seasons in the Association. The 20-year-old earned his first career All-Star selection in 2020-21, averaging a career-high 27 points, 7.2 boards, and 3.7 assists over 61 appearances.

Will Nola and Dallas look for a trade partner in the next couple of days? Hehe. The difference between Porzingis and Luka, the knicks thought Porzingis is not a true superstar because of injury concerns, Luka is already solidifying himself as a superstar. Zion's weight concerns have been put aside since he just finished a relatively healthy season.

I would like either Luka or Zion in a knicks uniform but the package will be a melo type package that will include everyone of value.

knicks1248 wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

There appears to be trouble brewing in the Big Easy.

Zion Williamson is questioning his relationship with the New Orleans Pelicans because the organization hasn't made him and his family happy, sources told The Athletic's Shams Charania, Joe Vardon, and William Guillory.

Some family members reportedly want the 2019 No. 1 pick to be on another team, adding that there's been internal dysfunction within the club for months.

The Williamsons reportedly found former Pelicans head coach Stan Van Gundy too rigid and demanding. Their "thinly veiled unhappiness" toward the franchise began before the 2020-21 campaign, according to The Athletic.

The trading of veteran guard JJ Redick is said to have irritated Williamson, according to Charania, Vardon, and Guillory. The sharpshooter developed a bond with the rising star over parts of two seasons in New Orleans, and Redick called out Pelicans executive David Griffin on his podcast after being dealt to the Dallas Mavericks at the trade deadline.

Redick's thoughts reportedly influenced some of Williamson's feelings about the Pelicans' direction.

New Orleans has missed the playoffs in each of Williamson's first two seasons in the Association. The 20-year-old earned his first career All-Star selection in 2020-21, averaging a career-high 27 points, 7.2 boards, and 3.7 assists over 61 appearances.

Will Nola and Dallas look for a trade partner in the next couple of days? Hehe. The difference between Porzingis and Luka, the knicks thought Porzingis is not a true superstar because of injury concerns, Luka is already solidifying himself as a superstar. Zion's weight concerns have been put aside since he just finished a relatively healthy season.

I would like either Luka or Zion in a knicks uniform but the package will be a melo type package that will include everyone of value.

Neither of these guys have won a Playoff series, so how much power do they really have within the organization

knicks1248 wrote:

Welpee wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

There appears to be trouble brewing in the Big Easy.

Zion Williamson is questioning his relationship with the New Orleans Pelicans because the organization hasn't made him and his family happy, sources told The Athletic's Shams Charania, Joe Vardon, and William Guillory.

Some family members reportedly want the 2019 No. 1 pick to be on another team, adding that there's been internal dysfunction within the club for months.

The Williamsons reportedly found former Pelicans head coach Stan Van Gundy too rigid and demanding. Their "thinly veiled unhappiness" toward the franchise began before the 2020-21 campaign, according to The Athletic.

The trading of veteran guard JJ Redick is said to have irritated Williamson, according to Charania, Vardon, and Guillory. The sharpshooter developed a bond with the rising star over parts of two seasons in New Orleans, and Redick called out Pelicans executive David Griffin on his podcast after being dealt to the Dallas Mavericks at the trade deadline.

Redick's thoughts reportedly influenced some of Williamson's feelings about the Pelicans' direction.

New Orleans has missed the playoffs in each of Williamson's first two seasons in the Association. The 20-year-old earned his first career All-Star selection in 2020-21, averaging a career-high 27 points, 7.2 boards, and 3.7 assists over 61 appearances.

Will Nola and Dallas look for a trade partner in the next couple of days? Hehe. The difference between Porzingis and Luka, the knicks thought Porzingis is not a true superstar because of injury concerns, Luka is already solidifying himself as a superstar. Zion's weight concerns have been put aside since he just finished a relatively healthy season.

I would like either Luka or Zion in a knicks uniform but the package will be a melo type package that will include everyone of value.

Neither of these guys have won a Playoff series, so how much power do they really have within the organization

KP never even made the playoffs here and got himself traded. I don't think making the playoff equates to "power."

I just have a dislike for players who put themselves ahead of the team.

I felt a little different with KP because we were losing so much and going into Tank mode 3 weeks into a season

I'm a DIE hard Packers FAN since 1993, and the sht that A-Aron Rodgers is doing is definitely making me not like him anymore.