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That's some company he's keeping!

HoustonSprewell84 wrote:There’s no way he doesn’t get a max contract, if not by us. Then no doubt, by another team.

If I was in Randle's shoes, I'd sign an Early Bird Rights contract extension and get the money now. ( 4 years maximum, can start at 175 percent of last AAV, 8 percent raises each year)

Doing the rough math in my head, with accelerators and assuming the BRI doesn't completely tank, then under a max after his team option year

2024 - 40 million
2025 - 43 million
2026 - 46 million

I just don't see it honestly. That's shifting into his early decline phase. Do any of you think Randle is worth 46 million at age 32? The Knicks won't burn 30 percent of their total cap on Randle.

Here's are some problems in general

1) The general US economy is going to take a real beating from the pandemic. That's going to have a ripple effect eventually in all of professional sports. People are going to cut corners and tighten their belts and **** like League Pass, game tickets, merchandise, jerseys, shoes, etc, etc will all take a hit. The NBA is in bed with China and that's going to come home to roost at some point. As US/China relations fracture, the NBA will look like greedy traitors and Anti-American. Lots of fans will turn on the entire sport.

2) The BRI is going to collapse. I don't care what vaccinations are out there or if there are COVID passports or whatnot, the NBA has lost lots of fans for life and they won't come back. Its coming from different directions. The game itself is not fun to watch. A lot of the star players are pieces of ****. The broadcasts are chock full of social justice and politics and you can't alienate half your potential fan base like that. Then there's the problem of parity, lots of teams have no chance and the Super Team issue makes it hard for many fans to feel good about their team rosters ( why invest in a player when he'll just leave for LA in a few years?)

3) All the math and league history says the Knicks record next year and Randle's production will face some kind of regression. He also risks injury and then that changes everything. DeMarcus Cousins could have signed a pretty fat deal and then he kept pushing his luck and now look at him. I can't blame a player fr betting on himself, but that kind of situation needs to be measured.

Don't **** around, take the money. Take the money now.

TripleThreat wrote:

HoustonSprewell84 wrote:There’s no way he doesn’t get a max contract, if not by us. Then no doubt, by another team.

If I was in Randle's shoes, I'd sign an Early Bird Rights contract extension and get the money now. ( 4 years maximum, can start at 175 percent of last AAV, 8 percent raises each year)

Doing the rough math in my head, with accelerators and assuming the BRI doesn't completely tank, then under a max after his team option year

2024 - 40 million
2025 - 43 million
2026 - 46 million

I just don't see it honestly. That's shifting into his early decline phase. Do any of you think Randle is worth 46 million at age 32? The Knicks won't burn 30 percent of their total cap on Randle.

Here's are some problems in general

1) The general US economy is going to take a real beating from the pandemic. That's going to have a ripple effect eventually in all of professional sports. People are going to cut corners and tighten their belts and **** like League Pass, game tickets, merchandise, jerseys, shoes, etc, etc will all take a hit. The NBA is in bed with China and that's going to come home to roost at some point. As US/China relations fracture, the NBA will look like greedy traitors and Anti-American. Lots of fans will turn on the entire sport.

2) The BRI is going to collapse. I don't care what vaccinations are out there or if there are COVID passports or whatnot, the NBA has lost lots of fans for life and they won't come back. Its coming from different directions. The game itself is not fun to watch. A lot of the star players are pieces of ****. The broadcasts are chock full of social justice and politics and you can't alienate half your potential fan base like that. Then there's the problem of parity, lots of teams have no chance and the Super Team issue makes it hard for many fans to feel good about their team rosters ( why invest in a player when he'll just leave for LA in a few years?)

3) All the math and league history says the Knicks record next year and Randle's production will face some kind of regression. He also risks injury and then that changes everything. DeMarcus Cousins could have signed a pretty fat deal and then he kept pushing his luck and now look at him. I can't blame a player fr betting on himself, but that kind of situation needs to be measured.

Don't **** around, take the money. Take the money now.

Before we go down a political rabbithole, we are just getting out of the pandemic. Several states are now reporting 75-80% fully vaccinated. The Dow is at around 34,000. The NBA’s revenues are set to rebound in a big way next year now that arenas will be allowed at least 75% capacity so gate receipts and concessions will be back

If the Knicks are smart, they do nothing with Randle this offseason and then wait for the FA class of 2022. They can sign a bunch of guys and then lock up both Randle and Mitch long term using the Bird exception- this is what Pat Riley did with the Heat and Wade in 2010

TripleThreat wrote:

HoustonSprewell84 wrote:There’s no way he doesn’t get a max contract, if not by us. Then no doubt, by another team.

If I was in Randle's shoes, I'd sign an Early Bird Rights contract extension and get the money now. ( 4 years maximum, can start at 175 percent of last AAV, 8 percent raises each year)

Doing the rough math in my head, with accelerators and assuming the BRI doesn't completely tank, then under a max after his team option year

2024 - 40 million
2025 - 43 million
2026 - 46 million

I just don't see it honestly. That's shifting into his early decline phase. Do any of you think Randle is worth 46 million at age 32? The Knicks won't burn 30 percent of their total cap on Randle.

Here's are some problems in general

1) The general US economy is going to take a real beating from the pandemic. That's going to have a ripple effect eventually in all of professional sports. People are going to cut corners and tighten their belts and **** like League Pass, game tickets, merchandise, jerseys, shoes, etc, etc will all take a hit. The NBA is in bed with China and that's going to come home to roost at some point. As US/China relations fracture, the NBA will look like greedy traitors and Anti-American. Lots of fans will turn on the entire sport.

2) The BRI is going to collapse. I don't care what vaccinations are out there or if there are COVID passports or whatnot, the NBA has lost lots of fans for life and they won't come back. Its coming from different directions. The game itself is not fun to watch. A lot of the star players are pieces of ****. The broadcasts are chock full of social justice and politics and you can't alienate half your potential fan base like that. Then there's the problem of parity, lots of teams have no chance and the Super Team issue makes it hard for many fans to feel good about their team rosters ( why invest in a player when he'll just leave for LA in a few years?)

3) All the math and league history says the Knicks record next year and Randle's production will face some kind of regression. He also risks injury and then that changes everything. DeMarcus Cousins could have signed a pretty fat deal and then he kept pushing his luck and now look at him. I can't blame a player fr betting on himself, but that kind of situation needs to be measured.

Don't **** around, take the money. Take the money now.

No way is Randle worth 40 million a year (30 is a stretch). After watching him in the playoffs I'm hesistant on a max contract. What if his production is just a product of empty gyms. If he wants to take the extension this off-season with the modest raise fine, but I think its way more likely he regresses back to the 2019-20 Randle

In any event its a good thing that has happened to Knicks and for him! Aller, Perry and Leon get paid the big bucks to sweat this out.

Philc1 wrote:If the Knicks are smart, they do nothing with Randle this offseason and then wait for the FA class of 2022. They can sign a bunch of guys and then lock up both Randle and Mitch long term using the Bird exception- this is what Pat Riley did with the Heat and Wade in 2010

Ugh man. You constantly do this, talk out your ass as if you understand and know facts and it's clear you do not.

I've made a whole thread on Julius extensions and what it takes and then there is also Google and other sources of information where you can just search it to verify.

This is how dumb information gets passed around and reality is exactly the opposite of what you wrote.

If Randle extends THIS 2021 offseason, he can sign for max of $26M starting in 2022. If Randle waits to sign in 2022, his cap hold will be $31M and he can sign for upwards of $34M.

Read the rest here: https://www.thestrick.land/strick/inside-math-of-julius-randle-future-max-contract-new-york-knicks

Playoffs - All NBA 8th Team

Reading comments suggesting to pay him 30% of our cap because he's been a hard worker, has faced bird rights unsuccessfully before...

Really hope the Knicks sit down with him and say something like, "Julius - you had a terrific regular season and also struggled in the post season. We like you and want to pay you a reasonable amount to continue adding pieces to support your solid play. We can't do that if we give you 30% or more of the cap so $24m is here for you to take or leave."

I do agree that the smart move is to do nothing and wait to see how things develop throughout next season. I still think even if we do wait - the Knicks should look to move Randle and not resign him for a max contract. For some reason I doubt the Knicks do that but hope I'm wrong.

TPercy wrote:I’ll take Randle at 26mm 4 years easily. A bloody steal if he replicates last seasons performance which I’m very confident he will.

IDK man, that was one of the worst playoff performances i ever seen, especially after the season he had.

It was like "WHO THE HELL IS THAT GUY" that wasn't the same Randle from the regular season.

I can except a "DEER in HEADLIGHTS" from the rookie IQ (who also had an awful playoff run) but not from randle