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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
6/14/2021 5:53 PM
He’s very interesting but yeah he’s definitely seems a bit offensively raw. I love the fact that he’s a good passer and finisher and that his shot may develop but I can’t help but see a much more defensive version of Obi.
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39803 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
6/14/2021 6:29 PM
TPercy wrote:He’s very interesting but yeah he’s definitely seems a bit offensively raw. I love the fact that he’s a good passer and finisher and that his shot may develop but I can’t help but see a much more defensive version of Obi. I see why scouts like him, but does he fit on the roster? Most draft experts have him in tier three, while I've seen a couple have him up in their tier 2. The key to him unlocking his upside depends on his ability to shoot. In a perfect world, I would draft and stash this kid and have him develop more in Spain. I doubt he falls to us anyway. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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Philc1
Posts: 28301 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
6/14/2021 6:34 PM LAST EDITED: 6/14/2021 6:42 PM
I have zero issue drafting a project at SF at 19.We are probably bringing back both Burks and Bullock on one year deals anyway
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39803 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
6/14/2021 6:36 PM
Philc1 wrote:I have zero issue drafting a project at SF at 19.We are probably bringing back both Burks and Bullock on one year deals anyway Most reports I've seen have him as a PF/C. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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Philc1
Posts: 28301 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
6/14/2021 6:43 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Philc1 wrote:I have zero issue drafting a project at SF at 19.We are probably bringing back both Burks and Bullock on one year deals anyway He’s fast enough to play the 3. At least on defense. He has to develop an outside shot that’s the key |
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 27467 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
6/14/2021 10:43 PM
Definitely the right physical attributes. I haven’t spent much time on him because I’ve assume d he would be off the board by 19. That said, dream scenario would be for him to stay in Spain another year or two and focus on fundamentals while coming to the US for Summer league.
Not sure that is his intention. Only issue with him is the idea of training him for his next contract. I’d still take him at 19 if he drops, just need to get a sense of his position pretty early. You know I gonna spin wit it
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KnickDanger
Posts: 24375 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
6/14/2021 11:09 PM LAST EDITED: 6/14/2021 11:12 PM
Mocks I’ve seen have him going late lotteryish, well before our current picks. Of course we could move up but I don’t see us doing that for a power forward, especially if the word project is attached. I do trust this FO to make good decisions so who knows.
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39803 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
6/14/2021 11:12 PM
KnickDanger wrote:Mocks I’ve seen have him going late lotteryish. Same here, but who knows. Mocks had Haliburton going early to mid lottery and Maxey going late lottery last year. I have a feeling this draft will be even crazier. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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KnickDanger
Posts: 24375 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
6/14/2021 11:55 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:KnickDanger wrote:Mocks I’ve seen have him going late lotteryish. Oh yeah things will change a lot - they always do. |
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martin
Posts: 76105 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
6/15/2021 2:20 PM
Also, almost goes without saying: Perfect Thibs player
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martin
Posts: 76105 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
6/15/2021 4:05 PM
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blkexec
Posts: 28298 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
6/15/2021 9:15 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:KnickDanger wrote:Mocks I’ve seen have him going late lotteryish. Last year's draft was impacted by covid with the lack of footage and in house workouts they couldn't do. But I hope we get teams to start reaching early in the drsft. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27954 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
6/15/2021 9:48 PM LAST EDITED: 6/15/2021 9:51 PM
martin wrote: Not a bad pick. Very athletic and only 19. I still like Trey Murphy though. Has 3 and D potential, shot 43% from three(Grant it on lower volume), and is 6'9" 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39803 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
6/15/2021 9:59 PM
blkexec wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:KnickDanger wrote:Mocks I’ve seen have him going late lotteryish. Up close workouts are important and probably helped us nab IQ. But nternational scouting is still an issue and restrictions aren't uniform. I also think the fact that people have numerous prospects in the same tier. The top four is locked in, but every other spot is up for grabs. Is Jalen Johnson late lottery, mid first or second round? He's been mocked every where. Would it surprise you if Scottie Barnes leap frogged Johnathan Kuminga? Don't think it's likely, but it's definitely a possibility. We'll see... Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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Philc1
Posts: 28301 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
6/16/2021 5:26 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:Definitely the right physical attributes. I haven’t spent much time on him because I’ve assume d he would be off the board by 19. That said, dream scenario would be for him to stay in Spain another year or two and focus on fundamentals while coming to the US for Summer league. We can trade up or, if we trade for Kemba we can demand the C’s first round pick which is 17th overall |
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Philc1
Posts: 28301 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 9/2/2020 Member: #8897 |
6/16/2021 5:27 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:blkexec wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:KnickDanger wrote:Mocks I’ve seen have him going late lotteryish. IQ fell because Calipari used him primarily as a 2 at Kentucky. If he had played PG he probably is a top 15 pick last year |
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Chandler
Posts: 26774 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
6/16/2021 7:02 AM
A lot of nice attributes but we need shooting badly
Plus I like Mitch a lot and have Julius and obi at 4 (5)(7)
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Knixkik
Posts: 35423 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
6/16/2021 8:53 AM
Looks like a nice big man prospect. He's the best defensive upside player in the draft so has to be in consideration. And i think the Knicks have an overseas scout located in that area so they are probably all over him.
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martin
Posts: 76105 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
6/16/2021 11:01 AM
What do you like about his D potential?
I don't see a guy with fast enough feet, lack of strength everywhere and his steal rate is so low that it points to his general lack of anticipation. For his 6'9" height, his rebounding rate seems low too. I don't really watch him so it's only highlight stuff for me. HofstraBBall wrote:I still like Trey Murphy though. Has 3 and D potential, shot 43% from three(Grant it on lower volume), and is 6'9" Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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