I’m back on the frank train myself— I don’t know if he will ultimately stay a Knick but for the first time in two years I see that he can be a valuable nba player

BUll or Burk? Like a house or a job one can always wish for a greener pasture but the reality is how to upgrade. That could be via trade, FA or draft. Why answer it now anyway? Two more games then a playoff series.

Both stepped up thru the season. Perhaps there are others that will also if given a chance. Maybe we draft Kispert and he can do that Alec Burkes thing? Or JJ Reddick? Or Obi and IQ step up and we don’t need. Microwave like Burkes.
Bullock if he don’t start maybe he is the one to go? They do different things. Burkes can create better then BUllock for the role he fills.

Would love the Knicks to be able to bring them both back but I suspect they may only be able to bring one of them. Not sure who I would prefer. I think if the Knicks are able to bring in a PG with a reliable outside shot, Burks could be expendable.

As for Frank.....For the league min, he can stick around. At the rate that he is progressing, I don't think he will be in the league for very long.

TripleThreat wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:
I’m back on the frank train myself— I don’t know if he will ultimately stay a Knick but for the first time in two years I see that he can be a valuable nba player

Frank N has a 7 million dollar qualifying offer this off season. Does anyone think he's worth 7 million OR some kind of extension? I don't. It's obvious he needed to change his game to help this team but just didn't do it. He has flashes to show he can do it, but it appears he just doesn't give a ****. If what you do is not working, you have to humble yourself enough to find something you can add to the team that will help them win.

Alonzo Trier played like a complete and total *******. But it was loud and in your face. It didn't help the team actually win ( he put up numbers, but hollow ones when considering wins and losses)

Frank N also plays like a complete and total *******. But it's much much quieter.

I see zero urgency from Frank N. That's not acceptable. If you fail, fail hard. If you are going to get cut, then lay it all out on the floor every single night so you have no regrets and you can face your teammates every single day.

If someone just isn't a good player, then they are not. OK, that happens. However if you could do more but you don't give a **** or won't see the reality of what you are on the court versus what you think you are, then that's entirely selfish.

Whoever is willing to come back on a 2 year deal at reasonable money ($9-10 million per)

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Never left the Train. Not sure it really goes anywhere but cost me nothing to ride..........

BUll or Burk? Like a house or a job one can always wish for a greener pasture but the reality is how to upgrade. That could be via trade, FA or draft. Why answer it now anyway? Two more games then a playoff series.

Both stepped up thru the season. Perhaps there are others that will also if given a chance. Maybe we draft Kispert and he can do that Alec Burkes thing? Or JJ Reddick? Or Obi and IQ step up and we don’t need. Microwave like Burkes.
Bullock if he don’t start maybe he is the one to go? They do different things. Burkes can create better then BUllock for the role he fills.

I think Frank wants to stay here but the years of both the Perry and now Rose regime burying him on the bench while Elfrid Payton lays brick every night has gotten to him

Frank will be a Net next year

Frank isn't a point guard. Payton isn't his competition. Noticed he looked really good(with braids) pairing next to Rose as a 3&D wing the other game. That's his game. Playing defense, knocking down 3s, extra pass.

Knicks will most likely look for a player on a rookie scale deal to slide into this slot that they can wait 2 yrs to develop. Frank will look for a place where he can get PT. I can see him going to Dallas. They have had ties to him dating back to the draft. He has had some good games vs them, fits very well with Doncic.

Nalod wrote:
Time will tell.

Time has TOLD

Frank N has had many years and multiple opportunities to take a starting job and make it his own. He didn't. No one gives you **** in the NBA and in this life. You want something? You go out and take it. You make it yours.

There were specific things he needed to do consistently to help this team win. He didn't do them. He's show, in flashes, he can do them. So it's not a question of skill, it's a question of heart and effort and humility.

Some of you guys make so many excuses for Frank N, it's like listening in on a marriage counseling session.

Nalod wrote:Frank in Thibs world is not a PG. IF thats his passion then he’ll follow it. As a glue guy that can defend move the ball and hit a jumper with good % is a valuable commodity. At 22 he still might not be a finished player.
An ass hole? Not sure I get that. Compared to rookie Steph Curry? I think if frank was all lackadaisical and did that shuffle Thibs would pull him and he’d be cut by now. He moving to the corner as instructed. He may instinctively uncomfortable moving away from the ball as his whole life we going toward it and passing without remorse. Now he is being instructed to shoot.

Time will tell. A guy running out of contract and space on the bench is not a good sign so him being released is not a suprise.

Frank in Thibs world doesn’t exist