Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lock down defender. This is the type of guy we need between RJ/Randle, not Cameron Phuckin Payne.

You send out RJ/Randle/Powell every night with rim protection and we will pound you into submission. 3 guys who play both ends and defend multiple positions and can score from anywhere. That's how you go from good to elite.

Powell wont cost max money so good chance you can bring back Noel/Bullock/Rose

PG Rose
SG RJ
SF Powell
PF Randle
C Mitch

Bench: Luka/IQ/Bullock/Obi/Noel
rest of roster: Taj/Knox?/FRP/FRP/?

I'm very interested in Powell, but how good of a defender is he? I've heard mixed results on him defensively. Is he really lock down like you say?

Its a good option. We need a blue chip player to add, and Powell def fits the mold of impact on both ends of the floor and doesnt cost us anything

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lock down defender. This is the type of guy we need between RJ/Randle, not Cameron Phuckin Payne.

You send out RJ/Randle/Powell every night with rim protection and we will pound you into submission. 3 guys who play both ends and defend multiple positions and can score from anywhere. That's how you go from good to elite.

Powell wont cost max money so good chance you can bring back Noel/Bullock/Rose

PG Rose
SG RJ
SF Powell
PF Randle
C Mitch

Bench: Luka/IQ/Bullock/Obi/Noel
rest of roster: Taj/Knox?/FRP/FRP/?

I'm very interested in Powell, but how good of a defender is he? I've heard mixed results on him defensively. Is he really lock down like you say?

How good of a defender was RJ and IQ before Thibs and his staff got in their heads.

There's 2 thing you should know longer concern yourself with, the FO OVER PAYING A PLAYER, or bringing in a suspect defensive player.

Base on what you have witness so far, the knicks will rather put there cap space in a piggy bank rather than over paying a player, and despite guys like drummond being available, if they don't think the player will fit or plays enough defense, they will bypass that player despite and his talents.

Powell is a solid player for what it's worth, but he was traded from a struggling Raptors team, and the spurs have not been much better with his acquisition, so IDK

The Trailblazers....and they have won 4 straight.

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lock down defender. This is the type of guy we need between RJ/Randle, not Cameron Phuckin Payne.

You send out RJ/Randle/Powell every night with rim protection and we will pound you into submission. 3 guys who play both ends and defend multiple positions and can score from anywhere. That's how you go from good to elite.

Powell wont cost max money so good chance you can bring back Noel/Bullock/Rose

PG Rose
SG RJ
SF Powell
PF Randle
C Mitch

Bench: Luka/IQ/Bullock/Obi/Noel
rest of roster: Taj/Knox?/FRP/FRP/?

I'm very interested in Powell, but how good of a defender is he? I've heard mixed results on him defensively. Is he really lock down like you say?

How good of a defender was RJ and IQ before Thibs and his staff got in their heads.

There's 2 thing you should know longer concern yourself with, the FO OVER PAYING A PLAYER, or bringing in a suspect defensive player.

Base on what you have witness so far, the knicks will rather put there cap space in a piggy bank rather than over paying a player, and despite guys like drummond being available, if they don't think the player will fit or plays enough defense, they will bypass that player despite and his talents.

Powell is a solid player for what it's worth, but he was traded from a struggling Raptors team, and the spurs have not been much better with his acquisition, so IDK

The Trailblazers....and they have won 4 straight.

LOL... yeah. That was a SELL move for Toronto, and despite not shooting great in Portland he's really helped them.

With Lil/CJ/Norm/Nurkic Portland has a very good squad and could get hot and upset a LOT of teams. Melo/Kanter get you tons of bench buckets as well. Looking forward to the playoffs for once

Uptown wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lock down defender. This is the type of guy we need between RJ/Randle, not Cameron Phuckin Payne.

You send out RJ/Randle/Powell every night with rim protection and we will pound you into submission. 3 guys who play both ends and defend multiple positions and can score from anywhere. That's how you go from good to elite.

Powell wont cost max money so good chance you can bring back Noel/Bullock/Rose

PG Rose
SG RJ
SF Powell
PF Randle
C Mitch

Bench: Luka/IQ/Bullock/Obi/Noel
rest of roster: Taj/Knox?/FRP/FRP/?

I'm very interested in Powell, but how good of a defender is he? I've heard mixed results on him defensively. Is he really lock down like you say?

How good of a defender was RJ and IQ before Thibs and his staff got in their heads.

There's 2 thing you should know longer concern yourself with, the FO OVER PAYING A PLAYER, or bringing in a suspect defensive player.

Base on what you have witness so far, the knicks will rather put there cap space in a piggy bank rather than over paying a player, and despite guys like drummond being available, if they don't think the player will fit or plays enough defense, they will bypass that player despite and his talents.

Powell is a solid player for what it's worth, but he was traded from a struggling Raptors team, and the spurs have not been much better with his acquisition, so IDK

The Trailblazers....and they have won 4 straight.

LOL... yeah. That was a SELL move for Toronto, and despite not shooting great in Portland he's really helped them.

With Lil/CJ/Norm/Nurkic Portland has a very good squad and could get hot and upset a LOT of teams. Melo/Kanter get you tons of bench buckets as well. Looking forward to the playoffs for once

I like Powell a heckuva lot more than Trent. Trent is one dimensional and is, ideally, a rotation player. Powell offers a bit more versatility offensively and defensively IMHO and would help the team. My thing Fish is that you hesitate to re-sign our role players, who would sign to cheaper deals, but then you want to sign role players from other teams who are going to cost at least 2x as much. Powell is better than Reggie, but is he 2.5x the player Reggie is? That's what it might take to sign him.

The Blazers gave up Trent for Powell, so I wonder how committed the Blazers are to re-sign him. I imagine that's a goal but how much are they willing to sign him for?

I like Powell and he will definitely fit in with our style and culture. He's a 2-way player on the wing and is an upgrade from Bullock and Burks. You raise an interesting point in terms of value. Bullock is a role player while Powell is more than that. Powell can put the ball on the floor and create for himself and others while Reggie needs players like Powell to create open looks for him.

With that said, I do prefer a wing with a little more size than Powell, but he would be a major upgrade if we were able to get him this summer.

Think about it differently: how flexible is the Portland cap situation such that they would add a player as productive as Powell?

Feel like they would do a lot to keep him.

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lock down defender. This is the type of guy we need between RJ/Randle, not Cameron Phuckin Payne.

You send out RJ/Randle/Powell every night with rim protection and we will pound you into submission. 3 guys who play both ends and defend multiple positions and can score from anywhere. That's how you go from good to elite.

Powell wont cost max money so good chance you can bring back Noel/Bullock/Rose

PG Rose
SG RJ
SF Powell
PF Randle
C Mitch

Bench: Luka/IQ/Bullock/Obi/Noel
rest of roster: Taj/Knox?/FRP/FRP/?

Wanted him at the trade deadline. Was glad it was not a sign and trade. This may be the first time Briggs, you and I have been on the same page.

Think he will get 4 years @ $25M?

HELL NO, not even close to that.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lock down defender. This is the type of guy we need between RJ/Randle, not Cameron Phuckin Payne.

You send out RJ/Randle/Powell every night with rim protection and we will pound you into submission. 3 guys who play both ends and defend multiple positions and can score from anywhere. That's how you go from good to elite.

Powell wont cost max money so good chance you can bring back Noel/Bullock/Rose

PG Rose
SG RJ
SF Powell
PF Randle
C Mitch

Bench: Luka/IQ/Bullock/Obi/Noel
rest of roster: Taj/Knox?/FRP/FRP/?

Wanted him at the trade deadline. Was glad it was not a sign and trade. This may be the first time Briggs, you and I have been on the same page.

Think he will get 4 years @ $25M?

HELL NO, not even close to that.

Yeah, that's to low. That's not even the mid-level.

ha Per Year

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lock down defender. This is the type of guy we need between RJ/Randle, not Cameron Phuckin Payne.

You send out RJ/Randle/Powell every night with rim protection and we will pound you into submission. 3 guys who play both ends and defend multiple positions and can score from anywhere. That's how you go from good to elite.

Powell wont cost max money so good chance you can bring back Noel/Bullock/Rose

PG Rose
SG RJ
SF Powell
PF Randle
C Mitch

Bench: Luka/IQ/Bullock/Obi/Noel
rest of roster: Taj/Knox?/FRP/FRP/?

I'm very interested in Powell, but how good of a defender is he? I've heard mixed results on him defensively. Is he really lock down like you say?

How good of a defender was RJ and IQ before Thibs and his staff got in their heads.

There's 2 thing you should know longer concern yourself with, the FO OVER PAYING A PLAYER, or bringing in a suspect defensive player.

Base on what you have witness so far, the knicks will rather put there cap space in a piggy bank rather than over paying a player, and despite guys like drummond being available, if they don't think the player will fit or plays enough defense, they will bypass that player despite and his talents.

Powell is a solid player for what it's worth, but he was traded from a struggling Raptors team, and the spurs have not been much better with his acquisition, so IDK

The Trailblazers....and they have won 4 straight.

LOL... yeah. That was a SELL move for Toronto, and despite not shooting great in Portland he's really helped them.

With Lil/CJ/Norm/Nurkic Portland has a very good squad and could get hot and upset a LOT of teams. Melo/Kanter get you tons of bench buckets as well. Looking forward to the playoffs for once

I like Powell a heckuva lot more than Trent. Trent is one dimensional and is, ideally, a rotation player. Powell offers a bit more versatility offensively and defensively IMHO and would help the team. My thing Fish is that you hesitate to re-sign our role players, who would sign to cheaper deals, but then you want to sign role players from other teams who are going to cost at least 2x as much. Powell is better than Reggie, but is he 2.5x the player Reggie is? That's what it might take to sign him.

I love Reggie btw and was defending him when he was playing like **** early in the year. We need higher end talent, higher impact. If we end up spending on PG I am all for bringing Reggie back (although I would prioritize Noel first regardless)

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lock down defender. This is the type of guy we need between RJ/Randle, not Cameron Phuckin Payne.

You send out RJ/Randle/Powell every night with rim protection and we will pound you into submission. 3 guys who play both ends and defend multiple positions and can score from anywhere. That's how you go from good to elite.

Powell wont cost max money so good chance you can bring back Noel/Bullock/Rose

PG Rose
SG RJ
SF Powell
PF Randle
C Mitch

Bench: Luka/IQ/Bullock/Obi/Noel
rest of roster: Taj/Knox?/FRP/FRP/?

Wanted him at the trade deadline. Was glad it was not a sign and trade. This may be the first time Briggs, you and I have been on the same page.

Think he will get 4 years @ $25M?

HELL NO, not even close to that.

Yeah, that's to low. That's not even the mid-level.

ha Per Year

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:Lock down defender. This is the type of guy we need between RJ/Randle, not Cameron Phuckin Payne.

You send out RJ/Randle/Powell every night with rim protection and we will pound you into submission. 3 guys who play both ends and defend multiple positions and can score from anywhere. That's how you go from good to elite.

Powell wont cost max money so good chance you can bring back Noel/Bullock/Rose

PG Rose
SG RJ
SF Powell
PF Randle
C Mitch

Bench: Luka/IQ/Bullock/Obi/Noel
rest of roster: Taj/Knox?/FRP/FRP/?

Wanted him at the trade deadline. Was glad it was not a sign and trade. This may be the first time Briggs, you and I have been on the same page.

Think he will get 4 years @ $25M?

HELL NO, not even close to that.

Yeah, that's to low. That's not even the mid-level.

ha Per Year

Powell will get a Levert/Randle/Harrison Barns type contract... depending on structure and market $15mm-$25mm per year. Would 4 years and anything between $60mm-$100mm surprise anyone?

It'll be interesting to see what teams beyond Portland are in play for Powell.

Team cap space: https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/262106/2021-NBA-Cap-Space-Projecting-All-30-Teams-Version-20