BRIGGS wrote:I think yes

I say yes tentatively. I think this ultimately depends on the amount of off season work and development. I do expect to see IQ at point next season but this also depends on moves made. Draft, FA acquisitions. Long term I see him as more a versatile combo guard,as opposed to a playmaking pg ala CP3.
I do like this kid though and am rooting for him to have a successful tenure as a Knick.

That being said if we are running the ball through RJ/Randle you can hide him at PG. Its less than ideal. Much better signing a vet and using IQ as a bench scorer where we see his scoring moving the needle

Nalod wrote:Knicks use Randle and Barrett to facilitate the offense. Doe it have to be a short guy?
The fixation on PG should be based on who you can get. Guys like Morant and Fox are super quick but its not like their teams are that much better because of it. Good/Great basketball players come in all shapes and sizes. Zion is the PG in NOLA for now. Brunson is a good player.

IQ is doing great. Not sure I’d label him a PG given his playmaking is not great. He does what he does well and no doubt has a role. Might even be a starter. But If its him and RJ on the court I’m letting RJ facilitate/probe/Penetrate.

I think the key is facilitate. Neither of the guys orchestrate yet - and for me there is an obvious gap between the 2. Randle and RJ are stop gap and kudos to Randle for really being able to handle it but I think the offense will really hum when a real PG stops in

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:Knicks use Randle and Barrett to facilitate the offense. Doe it have to be a short guy?
The fixation on PG should be based on who you can get. Guys like Morant and Fox are super quick but its not like their teams are that much better because of it. Good/Great basketball players come in all shapes and sizes. Zion is the PG in NOLA for now. Brunson is a good player.

IQ is doing great. Not sure I’d label him a PG given his playmaking is not great. He does what he does well and no doubt has a role. Might even be a starter. But If its him and RJ on the court I’m letting RJ facilitate/probe/Penetrate.

I think the key is facilitate. Neither of the guys orchestrate yet - and for me there is an obvious gap between the 2. Randle and RJ are stop gap and kudos to Randle for really being able to handle it but I think the offense will really hum when a real PG stops in

Great point. Big difference between those who are able to facilitate an offence ( RJ & Randle ) and those that can orchestrate ( Eg CP3 ). Can you imagine CP3 running the offence with our current roster? In theory the additional wins?

The modern NBA dictates that the pg’s of yesteryear are no longer needed. Would players such as Stockton, Thomas, Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway been anywhere near as successful if they played in the current era? Debatable.

Devil’s advocate. I see our greatest need as an orchestrator, names thrown around being, Conley, Nunn, Schroeder, Brunson. Best playmaking FA pg is Lonzo. Only knock on the kid being his mediocre J at best. Modern day pg necessity. I say roll the dice Thibs. You know I love ya.

You could also say that Rose perhaps should start alongside Randle/RJ and Quickley can backup either/both guard spots. It honestly doesn't really matter so long as Quickley gets mins, is put in a position to succeed and help the team.

If we see him eventually playing more PG, he needs reps at the position over time in real game situations. It may not be next year, it may not even be the following year. But something to consider with young players is that the Knicks should be helping to drive their development to be the best player they can be and not just pigeon-hole him into a specific role for the future.

Kemet wrote:The Knicks need to go after signing FA D.Angelo Russell in the offseason to replace Payton. .

For the second time, I don't know if it was you who wanted Russell a few days ago, but he's only FA in 2023.

Rose is good in spurts and has been very good for the team, but he’s 20 minutes a night. I wouldn’t mind Lowry on a two year deal or a large one year deal at $35MM as a stop gap. Toughness, defense and leadership.