Unfortunately it's three years to late. At this point, unless he's trade fodder for something bigger, I doubt he will fetch anything alone.

Can't wait for the Trade Knox thread (another player we held on for too long).

.....Let's not make the same mistake with Obi

martin wrote:This is Frank's opportunity and he is FAILING.

When you shoot while pretty much wide open and either barely hit rim or miss everything it's just a slap in the face. When you want to be a PG and make a pass that shouldn't even be contemplated when a defender is licking his lips waiting to intercept and almost does, Thibs notices.

Frank man, you are failing us all

I think we are failing him. Hes not a PG...hes a Swiss army knife.....3 and D guard/sf bench player. If everybody was healthy he wouldn't even get any mins. But he hasn't complained about. I think they trying to up his value as well...and probably shot themselves in the foot looking at his offensive play. 🤔

Nalod wrote:Fans prerogative to act emotionally. If you take the same parameters and offer him on trade with the recent shooting issue you think there is much of a market?
But, can anything be said that the minutes he played his defense DID matter and the TEAM did well?
NO doubt he needs to hit some shots and I am baffled at how well he was doing, then moment he gets the start it fell off the cliff.
But there is no comeback without his defense and last night he played well off the ball.
It was a tough loss and tough to watch.

Boils down to this: If that shot can’t be fixed then he can’t sustain in the NBA. His defense and ball movement is that good but at some point the shot has to fall. the issue of value is moot if another measure does not fancy his potential. Its not like a secret we trade him and other teams don’t know his shot is off.
If Mr impressionable Briggs the morning after is calling for him then its a bit impulsive fan reaction. Frustration is valid. What to do? I don’t know. He is not our starter, nor is IQ and the air balls was a new low. Was he playing thru a bangled up hand because we sort?
The defense was good. The passes were very good. Turnovers were not great timing but that happens. WE used Burks as PG and that was not great. I like Alec but this was to be DRoses minutes.
As for Frank? Is it the “Yips”? Thats as more than a lack of confidence, that was more debilitating.

If I'm a team like Orlando or Washington - hugely over the cap and in last place- then I would absolutely salivate over the prospect of modest cap relief and a chance to get our young, struggling players like Knox, Frank & Obi & a potential first round pick.

And if I am the Knicks, I have to look at trading some of these young players that aren't able to contribute and maybe need a change of scenery to determine whether they have a future in the league for an established NBA player.

franco12 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Fans prerogative to act emotionally. If you take the same parameters and offer him on trade with the recent shooting issue you think there is much of a market?
But, can anything be said that the minutes he played his defense DID matter and the TEAM did well?
NO doubt he needs to hit some shots and I am baffled at how well he was doing, then moment he gets the start it fell off the cliff.
But there is no comeback without his defense and last night he played well off the ball.
It was a tough loss and tough to watch.

Boils down to this: If that shot can’t be fixed then he can’t sustain in the NBA. His defense and ball movement is that good but at some point the shot has to fall. the issue of value is moot if another measure does not fancy his potential. Its not like a secret we trade him and other teams don’t know his shot is off.
If Mr impressionable Briggs the morning after is calling for him then its a bit impulsive fan reaction. Frustration is valid. What to do? I don’t know. He is not our starter, nor is IQ and the air balls was a new low. Was he playing thru a bangled up hand because we sort?
The defense was good. The passes were very good. Turnovers were not great timing but that happens. WE used Burks as PG and that was not great. I like Alec but this was to be DRoses minutes.
As for Frank? Is it the “Yips”? Thats as more than a lack of confidence, that was more debilitating.

If I'm a team like Orlando or Washington - hugely over the cap and in last place- then I would absolutely salivate over the prospect of modest cap relief and a chance to get our young, struggling players like Knox, Frank & Obi & a potential first round pick.

And if I am the Knicks, I have to look at trading some of these young players that aren't able to contribute and maybe need a change of scenery to determine whether they have a future in the league for an established NBA player.

And what do we get in return? Change of scenery? LIke a different coaching scenario? He has had plenty. Washington or Orlando are struggling which is not exactly a place to put frank back into. I can see more a SAS or Miami, perhaps even Indiana. Places that are culturally engrained and not filled with new players to get used to. I can very much see him in Miami.
What cap relief players do the want to shed that they don’t see as part of their future that eats our cap some and has the upside? I’m not all “Pro frank” here. I see the issue but he is 3rd strong PG and 3rd as a wing. If we can’t fix that shot while he physically matures then he is done. While we project him wanting “a fresh start” the issue is he has had them with each new coach and regime that has been here. Kid passes the ball without hesitancy, fills the lane on defense, and on one can flat out defend. He gave us a lot the last two games. He gave us the opportunity and then he bricked which is what we are all upset about.
Thibs plays who gets you close. Damn shame.