Dig this article. Can’t vouch for its accuracy but seems more substantial than a blogger making **** up or a fans perspective.
Does not quench the thirst for figuring the future but its never-the-less a bit of a peek under the hood.

And now we can put a face to the name Brock Aller, never seen him before

The writer Weitzman is about to be interviewed by Moose and Maggie on the FAN. Will see if there is anything else to add....

Real checks and balances situation with strong basketball guys and egos. Not yes men. Handled by Rose (with "hands off" often) for now has borne good fruit. Thibs in particular is painted as "Thibs being Thibs" wanting to flip younguns for vets etc. but also to some degree being open minded and being convinced by Randle, RJ, and Mitch. (Maybe Frank now?) There's also a sense of being in unforeseen territory with the brain trust as the team has exceeded expectations, so more to be revealed.

Randle is shown to be the real game changer in his transformation from last year's Randle. Thibs saw it right away and praised the guy and allowed Thibs a different mindset going forward.

WW Wes was super emphatic about Quicley, far more than Maxey or other Wildcats, although the Kentucky/CAA connection is viewed with some caution.

Weitzman doubts any kind of sell off going forward, but also skeptical of a Bradley Beal type move.

Overall a very positive view of the current FO, especially relative to recent years.

GustavBahler wrote:We're a 500 team. How about making the playoffs before declaring the team "rebuilt"? This "insider" article was written to give the reader the impression that the only thing Perry has done is get into a turf war with Mills.

Who signed Randle?
Who signed Burks?
Who drafted Mitch/RJ?
Who acquired the assests for Quickley?
Who created all that cap space for Rose to have flexibility in pursuing FAs?

This looks like an attempt to marginalize the work Perry did before Rose was hired. Get the feeling he wont be back. Which is a shame, because he made Rose's job a hell of a lot easier.

Most incoming team presidents have to deal with a capped out, injury ridden roster, with few if any future picks on the horizon. Defintely not what Rose walked into

You make an excellent point about Perry which I hadn't thought of. Perry is set aside in this article. On the other hand Perry is still with us, which may show some equilibrium on Leon's part.

GustavBahler wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:We're a 500 team. How about making the playoffs before declaring the team "rebuilt"? This "insider" article was written to give the reader the impression that the only thing Perry has done is get into a turf war with Mills.

Who signed Randle?
Who signed Burks?
Who drafted Mitch/RJ?
Who acquired the assests for Quickley?
Who created all that cap space for Rose to have flexibility in pursuing FAs?

This looks like an attempt to marginalize the work Perry did before Rose was hired. Get the feeling he wont be back. Which is a shame, because he made Rose's job a hell of a lot easier.

Most incoming team presidents have to deal with a capped out, injury ridden roster, with few if any future picks on the horizon. Defintely not what Rose walked into

You make an excellent point about Perry which I hadn't thought of. Perry is set aside in this article. On the other hand Perry is still with us, which may show some equilibrium on Leon's part.

His contract is almost up. Will be pleasantly surprised if Perry is brought back.

I know it bends some minds that Perry was as respected given his limited authority in previous positions thru the years. For all we know its Perry that might want to leave and get his own gig. Maybe ATL opens up?
Maybe Leon offers an extension, or maybe Leon has his guy already picked out under mutual understanding. Basis is its a good front office executing a plan that I’m sure has contingencies when opportunities knock and if not Perry hopefully he goes on to green pastures and next up is as good or better going forward.

Brock Aller is exactly as I would have imagined hm to be!! LOL

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:We're a 500 team. How about making the playoffs before declaring the team "rebuilt"? This "insider" article was written to give the reader the impression that the only thing Perry has done is get into a turf war with Mills.

Who signed Randle?
Who signed Burks?
Who drafted Mitch/RJ?
Who acquired the assests for Quickley?
Who created all that cap space for Rose to have flexibility in pursuing FAs?

This looks like an attempt to marginalize the work Perry did before Rose was hired. Get the feeling he wont be back. Which is a shame, because he made Rose's job a hell of a lot easier.

Most incoming team presidents have to deal with a capped out, injury ridden roster, with few if any future picks on the horizon. Defintely not what Rose walked into

You make an excellent point about Perry which I hadn't thought of. Perry is set aside in this article. On the other hand Perry is still with us, which may show some equilibrium on Leon's part.

Perry is nothing more than a consultant. Very nice guy, a bit of a yes man, but his name is not ringing any bells in the NBA.

He's a what i consider a role player in the FO, he's not a major player

As for Thibs...

He pleaded for Rose to offer long-term deals to free agents such as Gordon Hayward, Marcus Morris and Bogdan Bogdanovic. He wanted to trade for Derrick Rose, a longtime favorite of his. He thought RJ Barrett and Mitchell Robinson could potentially be flipped for seasoned veterans. Initially, he was hardly sold on Julius Randle, according to a colleague.

“There’s no rebuilding or long term with Thibs,” a former colleague said.

This doesn't surprise me at all and is one of the reasons why I had Atkinson ahead of him on the hiring depth cart. Atkinson seems to fit more of what Aller visualizes with this roster in terms of a slow-build and smart moves that preserve cap-space. You don't hire Thibs to rebuild. You hire him to win-now and build culture. I like the culture he has instilled as it has us playing with an actual identity, one that we haven't had in years. Not a fan of his win-now-at-all-costs motives, especially with This particular team. Again, thank God for Aller. It will be interesting to see this relationship moving forward especially if we slip in the standings during the second of the season and moving into the summer.

Wes

When conversations centered around players not connected to the school — or Creative Artists Agency, where he and Rose had worked — he’d often close his eyes.

Much props to Wes for pushing for Quickley, perhaps the steal of the draft. However, during the summer, some were able to point out that the Knicks were now in bed with CAA/Kentucky. Taking a look at our roster, its hard to dispute. I just hope we don't narrow our scope on draft prospects if those prospects are not affiliated. Also, Curious to know Walt Perrins role in the Obi and Quickley picks.

Aller...

Aller, however, wanted to do exactly that. He thought the Knicks should target second-tier veterans like Austin Rivers and Alec Burks with one-year deals — and then during the season try flipping them for future draft picks. He wanted future cap space preserved. He believed current cap space should be used to harvest other team’s poor contracts in exchange for additional picks.

Did I mention, thank God for Aller. Also, I would be shocked if Perry returns...

Yeah, I'm pretty convinced the Thib's fave guys on the team are Randle, Rose, Taj, and Noel - okay, maybe Elfrid.

He's totally fine trading away EVERYONE ELSE. It'll be up to the rest of the front office staff to keep him honest and develop some of the young guys.

Interestingly, since they mentioned it in the article, the Celtics ultimately drafted Pritchard, who is having a pretty excellent rookie season in his own right - shooting 40%+ 3pt land and 94% FT. He got a lot of minutes early when Kemba was out.

In another universe (where we didn't make those crazy trades and get back more assets than we started with), he might have been our guy. He's a little older (23) and less "quick" than Quickley, but he's very capable - and perhaps more PG than Quickley.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pritcpa01.html

fishmike wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:We're a 500 team. How about making the playoffs before declaring the team "rebuilt"? This "insider" article was written to give the reader the impression that the only thing Perry has done is get into a turf war with Mills.

Who signed Randle?
Who signed Burks?
Who drafted Mitch/RJ?
Who acquired the assests for Quickley?
Who created all that cap space for Rose to have flexibility in pursuing FAs?

This looks like an attempt to marginalize the work Perry did before Rose was hired. Get the feeling he wont be back. Which is a shame, because he made Rose's job a hell of a lot easier.

Most incoming team presidents have to deal with a capped out, injury ridden roster, with few if any future picks on the horizon. Defintely not what Rose walked into

You make an excellent point about Perry which I hadn't thought of. Perry is set aside in this article. On the other hand Perry is still with us, which may show some equilibrium on Leon's part.

Perry is nothing more than a consultant. Very nice guy, a bit of a yes man, but his name is not ringing any bells in the NBA.

He's a what i consider a role player in the FO, he's not a major player

lol the free will you use to make up stuff that you don't know and can't even put an ounce of reality into is amazing

Its like a gift

As for Perry he was competent. He bought when you are supposed to buy and sell when you are supposed to sell. Perry's history speaks for itself. He's been competent everywhere he's been. Knicks fans get enamored with things they dont see very often. It was part of the Mike Miller love.

Perry has not been impressive, and you know it, if he was he would have easily slid into the president seat full time , or offered an extension and a larger role, or maybe even received offers from other franchises to run their teams.

Has any of that happen? so apparently im not the only person that views him as a avg at best exec.

Perry is still here because of his relationship with Leon and CAA?

Mills hired perry because he came cheap and he wanted an all black FO, not because he was one of the sharpest execs available.

Do you think PERRY will be retain after this season?

Uptown wrote:Didn't know much about Aller, but clearly, he has a voice and thank God for that!

As for Thibs...

He pleaded for Rose to offer long-term deals to free agents such as Gordon Hayward, Marcus Morris and Bogdan Bogdanovic. He wanted to trade for Derrick Rose, a longtime favorite of his. He thought RJ Barrett and Mitchell Robinson could potentially be flipped for seasoned veterans. Initially, he was hardly sold on Julius Randle, according to a colleague.

“There’s no rebuilding or long term with Thibs,” a former colleague said.

This doesn't surprise me at all and is one of the reasons why I had Atkinson ahead of him on the hiring depth cart. Atkinson seems to fit more of what Aller visualizes with this roster in terms of a slow-build and smart moves that preserve cap-space. You don't hire Thibs to rebuild. You hire him to win-now and build culture. I like the culture he has instilled as it has us playing with an actual identity, one that we haven't had in years. Not a fan of his win-now-at-all-costs motives, especially with This particular team. Again, thank God for Aller. It will be interesting to see this relationship moving forward especially if we slip in the standings during the second of the season and moving into the summer.

Wes

When conversations centered around players not connected to the school — or Creative Artists Agency, where he and Rose had worked — he’d often close his eyes.

Much props to Wes for pushing for Quickley, perhaps the steal of the draft. However, during the summer, some were able to point out that the Knicks were now in bed with CAA/Kentucky. Taking a look at our roster, its hard to dispute. I just hope we don't narrow our scope on draft prospects if those prospects are not affiliated. Also, Curious to know Walt Perrins role in the Obi and Quickley picks.

Aller...

Aller, however, wanted to do exactly that. He thought the Knicks should target second-tier veterans like Austin Rivers and Alec Burks with one-year deals — and then during the season try flipping them for future draft picks. He wanted future cap space preserved. He believed current cap space should be used to harvest other team’s poor contracts in exchange for additional picks.

Did I mention, thank God for Aller. Also, I would be shocked if Perry returns...

Interesting to note about Atkinson, most of us and the rest of the NBA assumed he would grab a HC job in the coaching carousel last summer and not only did he miss out, but he didn't even get an associate HC job. He's low on the coaching depth chart in LA. I wonder why he wasn't able to get higher on a team's bench.