there is financial risk, but if alonzo can play 24 minutes a night 65 games a year and give us 12-13 points 7 reb 2 blocks, its worth every dime. I wonder if they would be willing to take Nazr + 3mm for him? Also, I like the way Borchardt looked--we have to watch him this year--Jaz could be tight with money next year after having to pay Kirilenko. Perhaps we can get Bochardt for something like Doleac money--3 years 7.5m$m or so.

theres no way alonzo could ever post those numbers now, hes to old and to much of a health risk, we thought camby was bad, this guy could up and leave in 2 secs, then what would we do w/o nazr... start baker and play sundov as back up

BRIGGS - didn't we stress not getting has-beens and over the hill players already a few years ago? Have we forgot so quickly? Borchardt is not that good, I remember people ridiculing him a few years ago too.

I like Borchardt, always have for some reason. If he could just get healthy and stay healthy he could be a very good player. He's much more skilled and athletic than Doleac. Kind of like a wirey LeFrentz. Good shot blocker, nice speed, good mid range game.

Posted by fishmike:

I like Borchardt, always have for some reason. If he could just get healthy and stay healthy he could be a very good player. He's much more skilled and athletic than Doleac. Kind of like a wirey LeFrentz. Good shot blocker, nice speed, good mid range game.

Yea I noticed Borchardt is playing good.

Isiah won't make a move like that. He's only looking for playerd with healthy bodies. The Nets cut their own throats signing him for that money. However, if NJ would take Shandone & Moochie, it would make the deal more palpable to fans and management alike.

I think Zo would be a great pickup....problem is, Shandon Anderson for Zo Works.....




New York trades: SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 24.6 minutes)
New York receives: C Alonzo Mourning (8.0 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 17.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.1 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and -0.8 apg.

New Jersey trades: C Alonzo Mourning (8.0 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 0.7 apg in 17.9 minutes)
New Jersey receives: SF Shandon Anderson (7.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 80 games)
Change in team outlook: -0.1 ppg, +0.5 rpg, and +0.8 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to New York and New Jersey being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. New York and New Jersey had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out unless trade exceptions were used for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Or Maybe Moochie, Sundov and $3 mil for Mourning? I think he would be a VERY solid pickup and a great lockerroom guy...plus it makes Nazr VERY expendable...

Posted by gunsnewing:

Alonzo can't play more than 15 consecutive games. When will people learn!

Shandon can't play well in more than zero consecutive games! If we're trading him for Zo like Joe mentioned, that's fine with me.

Posted by TMS:

there's no way NJ is making that trade anyway...

there's no upside at all to trading for Shandon Anderson...he's just 3 years & $24 million dollars on their payroll that they don't need...at least Zo gives them a slim chance of being a factor in the frontcourt if he can stay healthy...his salary is just a bullet they'll have to bite for the next 3 years...he's making less than Shandon anyway.

Alot of teams aren't as down on SHandon as the Knicks and Knicks fans are (both Miami and Houston want him, just not at his contract). Shandon may be able to help he Nets....but it is alot of money ,so my solution would be to throw in an extra $3 mil.

No one knows what Bochardt is YET. Bochardt was a scoring machine at a very good school, but to me with what was available, wasnt worth a pick that high that year. Other years, he couldve easily gone top 7--think this guy was a better player than Chris Kaman who went 6th--Diop who went 8th etc...


Hes an injury ? so he has a lot to prove this year just in terms of staying healthy. Also Mihm is a better player than Gadzuric. You know, Kobe Bryant demanded that they keep Mihm when that trade went a foul and look how he has played. Pretty darn well.

The jury is going to be out on Gadzuric as well this year. I have to believe that IF he plays well, Milwaukee is in nice position to match any MLE offer[remember they tried to give Thomas 40mm]


that stuff is a ways out, unles we were able to make a trade in a few months, but i still doubt it.


Now Id be willing to take a chance on mourning with Nazr. Its a salary match and reliefs NJ of 1 year of long term salary. If HE does play well for 20-25 games, some team like Dallas is going to give them an ending contract for Mourning to play PF with Dampier, or perhaps Minnesota et al.. there will be a HUGE market for him--we might have to throw in 3 mm to even be a player since we dont have expiring contracts.

WHAT is Nazr? He's all right, but hes sure isnt alonzo even with a transplant. Look at the stories this summer about how nazr trained and was coming in with fantastic shape and alonzo plays better in 19 minutes than Nazr has playe d in 8 games.

Posted by TMS:

i've proposed Nazr for Zo trades in the past even before we saw him play the way he did the other day, so you know where i stand on that...maybe the Knicks could squeeze out a future draft pick as well if they include some cash considerations?

C - Zo / Baker
PF - KT / Sweetney / JYD
SF - TT / Ariza
SG - Crawford / Penny
PG - Marbury / Brewer / Moochie
IR - Houston / Shandon / Sundov

that's beginning to look more & more like a Knick team that suits this city.

Starting a busted old freak who only got by on his strength and quickness and Houston on the the IR?

Nazr is not that bad, and he's certainly better than Zo. Obviously, we eventually need to upgrade, but trading for Zo would be a panic move. All these people who preach patience and say Layden was stupid for going for Dyess should look at this trade proposal and realize how insane it is.