I remember when blueseats was around and posting... everyone was like 'I will take 5 years, 10 years of garbage to have a chance at a championship' and blue was like 'I think I would rather have the ECF every year because winning it all really isn't that easy...'

I will say all this losing is changing my fandom. I cut bait early in the season if neede3d and pivot to college because let's face it, unless Obi uses the force from day one, there is no savior on the Knicks and I am starting to doubt if a chip will ever happen. I think Thibs and what we have is a good start but holy **** I am sick of evaluating starts and whether they are good or not

BRIGGS wrote:I was alive when they won but being 4 years old you can’t appreciate it.
I’ve seen the Mets Rangers and UConn win championships
Not so with Jets and Mets.
I hope hope hope I can stay alive long enough to see both do that. Sports to me have been the second or third most important thing in my life. I’m sure it’s the same with many fans here( or u wouldn’t be here!)
I feel atleast for me I’m on the clock for this next cycle. I’m 52 years old abs while I do not have anything diagnosed in anyway as terminal but I do have a longer term issue(s) that has progressively got worse. I don’t know my time— if I’m lucky abs I’m here for another 15-20 years. — it gives me time to see these goals get a chance. But I know to myself that is also an optimistic timeframe. I need the K Ickes and Jets to do work in the next 5-7 years god willing. And I’m sure I’m not alone

Try being a 55 year old life long Rutgers fan LOL (although we are ranked this year!!).

At least I have the Yankees, Giants and 1994 for the Rangers!!

Oddly, I am not as big a fan of the new style of play in the NBA. It's not as gritty and exciting as it was in the last NYK contention era (i.e., Ewings days). But I'd sure like to watch meaningful post-season games in which our team competes hard with some success, even if we don 't get to the chip.

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Briggs penchant for his own threads I suspect will occur in the afterlife? If anyone can start a thread from there it will be Briggs! He’l tell us about prospects him heaven we should have drafted and how much we should pay them! He’ll beg for the big guy to “release him from his heavenly contract (CAA??) if they sign with the knicks! He can be our World Wide Wes from the pearly gates!!

I noticed Briggs you did not write a note in PapaBears thread congratulating him on his resurrection but in true narcissistic manner you start your own and want some love. The man flat on his back from the hospital deserves a congratulation!

We all want to NOT DIE before experiencing a championship! Nothing exceptional. Please don’t take this as not being sympathetic regarding your plight. You been open about your journey many times which is baffling at times but we all like family after 20 years of this.
I’m at risk and am super careful. Many knick fans are at risk for covid and we might not live to see a championship.
Why not end your pity party by offering an “attaboy” to Papa.
If you fall victim to this disease I’ll give you thoughts and prayers for your recovery. I don’t want anyone anymore to die from this vascular disease! This is a hideous virus and time in our lives. Not just Dolan, but covid too!
Stay healthy!

Not sure where this comes from and I’d check papabears thread a tad closer. I think this post prob represents most people here?

No arguement here.

1. Nobody wants to die.
2. Nobody comes to ultimate knicks.come and wants to NOT win a chip!!!!

But I dont just want some one off starphuch where we some how get a bunch of players on one or two year contracts, trade 7 years of picks/swaps,, got to finals, then had another 10 years of misery. I want a team. Part of it in grown players, trades, and FA’s. What LA did this past season to me was not that great.
What GSW did before Durant got there mattered and that he joined mattered because the core of the team, the heart and soul existed. I don’t begrudge AD and Lebron, or the Lakers but as a fan I would think as chips go its not as “organic”. I think Nets run this risk but NY is starved for glory and they will pick up a lot of new fans. If they don’t get Harden and the Core of Nets team stays intact (Dinwiddie, Lavert, Allan and Harris) with Durant and Kyrie and one of those true nets rise that could be a cool thing. Get Harden, its a starphuch. I hope we don’t do this.
I dig what GSW has done, MIlwaukee, Miami, and Boston.
I too was too young to appreciate the 1970 season but I suffered in 71 and 72. I saw enough change and bonded with those players as a kid. When we won in 1973 it was fantastic! Fans that rode the growth of those young knick teams in 68’ and 69’ with the celts in decline felt it was special but it was not easy.
I dig that Mav’s fans stuck with dirk and they finally won! That mattered.
All in all the journey matters.
When the Knicks lost in 1994 I still got up with the baby and then off to work. Win or lose my life was not going to change. It sucked they lost but it was fun! When I look back it was a blast to see Ewing evolve, Starks and Mase come from oblivion to relevance, Riley take over and change the team, etc.
Bernard King was here a very brief time and we really did not accomplish much but his star rose and we made a nice playoff run. It was fun.
Linsanity was fun.
Melo’s magic season was fun winning 54 games.
1999 improbable run was fun.
How is it not fun to see Frank, or Dennis, or Knox, or Mitch blossom? If not, others!
We have picks. They might be fun.
Its the journey that matters. Chips validate the supreme winning conclusion but if we only measured the seasons by chips then we miss so much.

BRIGGS wrote:I was alive when they won but being 4 years old you can’t appreciate it.
I’ve seen the Mets Rangers and UConn win championships
Not so with Jets and Mets.
I hope hope hope I can stay alive long enough to see both do that. Sports to me have been the second or third most important thing in my life. I’m sure it’s the same with many fans here( or u wouldn’t be here!)
I feel atleast for me I’m on the clock for this next cycle. I’m 52 years old abs while I do not have anything diagnosed in anyway as terminal but I do have a longer term issue(s) that has progressively got worse. I don’t know my time— if I’m lucky abs I’m here for another 15-20 years. — it gives me time to see these goals get a chance. But I know to myself that is also an optimistic timeframe. I need the K Ickes and Jets to do work in the next 5-7 years god willing. And I’m sure I’m not alone

Do you think it will happen under Leon and Thibs?

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I was alive when they won but being 4 years old you can’t appreciate it.
I’ve seen the Mets Rangers and UConn win championships
Not so with Jets and Mets.
I hope hope hope I can stay alive long enough to see both do that. Sports to me have been the second or third most important thing in my life. I’m sure it’s the same with many fans here( or u wouldn’t be here!)
I feel atleast for me I’m on the clock for this next cycle. I’m 52 years old abs while I do not have anything diagnosed in anyway as terminal but I do have a longer term issue(s) that has progressively got worse. I don’t know my time— if I’m lucky abs I’m here for another 15-20 years. — it gives me time to see these goals get a chance. But I know to myself that is also an optimistic timeframe. I need the K Ickes and Jets to do work in the next 5-7 years god willing. And I’m sure I’m not alone

Do you think it will happen under Leon and Thibs?

if they give Frank a big enough role then yes

BRIGGS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Briggs penchant for his own threads I suspect will occur in the afterlife? If anyone can start a thread from there it will be Briggs! He’l tell us about prospects him heaven we should have drafted and how much we should pay them! He’ll beg for the big guy to “release him from his heavenly contract (CAA??) if they sign with the knicks! He can be our World Wide Wes from the pearly gates!!

I noticed Briggs you did not write a note in PapaBears thread congratulating him on his resurrection but in true narcissistic manner you start your own and want some love. The man flat on his back from the hospital deserves a congratulation!

We all want to NOT DIE before experiencing a championship! Nothing exceptional. Please don’t take this as not being sympathetic regarding your plight. You been open about your journey many times which is baffling at times but we all like family after 20 years of this.
I’m at risk and am super careful. Many knick fans are at risk for covid and we might not live to see a championship.
Why not end your pity party by offering an “attaboy” to Papa.
If you fall victim to this disease I’ll give you thoughts and prayers for your recovery. I don’t want anyone anymore to die from this vascular disease! This is a hideous virus and time in our lives. Not just Dolan, but covid too!
Stay healthy!

Not sure where this comes from and I’d check papabears thread a tad closer. I think this post prob represents most people here?

Yeah, I think most people are selfish and only care about themselves. But only a few are blessed to have empathy, class and confidence in themselves, where they can support people like Papa. While the rest are still struggling and searching for self love. Sometimes it comes with age and maturity. But sometimes it doesn't come at all. The blessing is within knowledge of self and awareness of others and just being humble. But on a separate note.....YOU OLD BRIGGS. lol. Just kidding. You only a few years older than me. So you not alone. Keep holding onto those good memories of the knicks in the 90s.....I was born during the championship run, but I was even younger than you, I was only a few months old during that chip (lol).

TPercy wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I was alive when they won but being 4 years old you can’t appreciate it.
I’ve seen the Mets Rangers and UConn win championships
Not so with Jets and Mets.
I hope hope hope I can stay alive long enough to see both do that. Sports to me have been the second or third most important thing in my life. I’m sure it’s the same with many fans here( or u wouldn’t be here!)
I feel atleast for me I’m on the clock for this next cycle. I’m 52 years old abs while I do not have anything diagnosed in anyway as terminal but I do have a longer term issue(s) that has progressively got worse. I don’t know my time— if I’m lucky abs I’m here for another 15-20 years. — it gives me time to see these goals get a chance. But I know to myself that is also an optimistic timeframe. I need the K Ickes and Jets to do work in the next 5-7 years god willing. And I’m sure I’m not alone

Do you think it will happen under Leon and Thibs?

if they give Frank a big enough role then yes

LOL

Hopefully he level up his play and can become our starter for yrs to come and be the first rookie to be resign in over 23 yrs.

I hope for the best for every player that wears a KNICK JERSEY because I'm a knick fan not a knick homer