Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/1333161026188173314

This is just another example. If the Knicks assumed Batum, this has nothing to do with whether the Celtics work out a sign and trade on Hayward. They are mutually exclusive transactions.

How do you know the Knicks didn’t turn down a Batum trade unless the Hornets skipped a sign and trade?

Sure, this is only a tweet. But why does the NY media have to make a completely unrelated transaction and Knicks “failure”.

Stupid media.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/1333161026188173314

This is just another example. If the Knicks assumed Batum, this has nothing to do with whether the Celtics work out a sign and trade on Hayward. They are mutually exclusive transactions.

How do you know the Knicks didn’t turn down a Batum trade unless the Hornets skipped a sign and trade?

Sure, this is only a tweet. But why does the NY media have to make a completely unrelated transaction and Knicks “failure”.

Stupid media.

BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/SBondyNYDN/status/1333161026188173314

This is just another example. If the Knicks assumed Batum, this has nothing to do with whether the Celtics work out a sign and trade on Hayward. They are mutually exclusive transactions.

How do you know the Knicks didn’t turn down a Batum trade unless the Hornets skipped a sign and trade?

Sure, this is only a tweet. But why does the NY media have to make a completely unrelated transaction and Knicks “failure”.

Stupid media.

Have to drum up stories, but this tweet is misleading. The stretch means the Hornets don't need to do a sign and trade. I haven't heard of the Celtics acquiring a TPE, unless something dropped. I think Bondy is OK, but this tweet is puzzling. Nevermind, just saw that it is a sign and trade. Oh, well. Celts try and use it in a Westbrook deal I guess.

Celtics paid 2 second rounders to get a 27.9m traded player exception. The Hornets stretched Batum.

So, now Boston is a competitor to assume any contracts for value. This assumes the Knicks are done this offseason and are planning on being a contract dump for the balance of this year. Which they may be. We don’t know.

There just is nothing that implicates the Knicks could have (or didn’t try) to stop Boston from getting a TPE. Accepting Batum doesn’t stop Charlotte from doing a S&T with Boston.

Thing is, if you look deeper at the Knicks moves, like using a S&T on Austin’s Rivers and the Room Exception on Payton, they really look like there is another move coming that they are holding space for. And maybe it will happen. Maybe it won’t. We may not know.

I just don’t want to criticize that front office before they do anything to complain about.

KnickDanger wrote:Lazy Knicks hate is the easy take, gets the clicks, is trendy etc.

It’s not even interesting or compelling journalism at this point. Hack sportswriters and cable tv talking faces laughing at the Knicks not taking on bad contracts - after criticizing them for doing exactly that for years

TheGame wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Listened to the latest KFS podcast. They made the point that OKC also had enough space through their TPE to take on Batum and they didn't do it. I think this has more to do with Charlotte's unwillingness to add a good asset than an unwillingness from the Knicks and OKC to come to the table. Also, don't know why the Hornets would be so adverse to taking back salary (Randle) for a year when the option is taking $9M of dead weight for three years.

Agreed. Clearly, the Hornets were not willing to offer the picks that would have made it worth it to the Knicks to take on that salary. If you take on $27 million, then that takes you out of using your cap space for other trades. I would have demanded that the Hornets give up a top-3 protected first round pick and maybe more, and I am guessing the Hornets realized they are likely going to suck and did not want to give up a first rounder, especially considering they saw how we turned their high second round pick into Mitchell two years ago.

I don't get why they stretched him and have him eating up cap for 3 yrs rather than just eat his contract for the season and be done with it. Would they not be able to sign Hayward otherwise?

newyorknewyork wrote:

TheGame wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Listened to the latest KFS podcast. They made the point that OKC also had enough space through their TPE to take on Batum and they didn't do it. I think this has more to do with Charlotte's unwillingness to add a good asset than an unwillingness from the Knicks and OKC to come to the table. Also, don't know why the Hornets would be so adverse to taking back salary (Randle) for a year when the option is taking $9M of dead weight for three years.

Agreed. Clearly, the Hornets were not willing to offer the picks that would have made it worth it to the Knicks to take on that salary. If you take on $27 million, then that takes you out of using your cap space for other trades. I would have demanded that the Hornets give up a top-3 protected first round pick and maybe more, and I am guessing the Hornets realized they are likely going to suck and did not want to give up a first rounder, especially considering they saw how we turned their high second round pick into Mitchell two years ago.

I don't get why they stretched him and have him eating up cap for 3 yrs rather than just eat his contract for the season and be done with it. Would they not be able to sign Hayward otherwise?

No they wouldn't have, But again, you have to look at the same situation with Noah, Mills said teams wanted draft picks to take on his contract.

What made it so bad stretching NOAH was that we were tanking and he was in the final yr of his contract, that sht made no damn sense

knicks1248 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Media worst enemy... us!!!!

Exactly.

like i said the knicks regimes don't even talk to the fans let alone the media.

We are all left to assume

You forgot to add that its been 4 months since Leon Rose spoke to the media.

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

TheGame wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Listened to the latest KFS podcast. They made the point that OKC also had enough space through their TPE to take on Batum and they didn't do it. I think this has more to do with Charlotte's unwillingness to add a good asset than an unwillingness from the Knicks and OKC to come to the table. Also, don't know why the Hornets would be so adverse to taking back salary (Randle) for a year when the option is taking $9M of dead weight for three years.

Agreed. Clearly, the Hornets were not willing to offer the picks that would have made it worth it to the Knicks to take on that salary. If you take on $27 million, then that takes you out of using your cap space for other trades. I would have demanded that the Hornets give up a top-3 protected first round pick and maybe more, and I am guessing the Hornets realized they are likely going to suck and did not want to give up a first rounder, especially considering they saw how we turned their high second round pick into Mitchell two years ago.

I don't get why they stretched him and have him eating up cap for 3 yrs rather than just eat his contract for the season and be done with it. Would they not be able to sign Hayward otherwise?

No they wouldn't have, But again, you have to look at the same situation with Noah, Mills said teams wanted draft picks to take on his contract.

What made it so bad stretching NOAH was that we were tanking and he was in the final yr of his contract, that sht made no damn sense

You have done some amazing misses on so many things over the years but this warrants a closer look.
Its like both sides of your brain are in conflict. One side is saying “It makes no damn sense”. Thats when the other part should say “Hey, before I call someone stupid (mills) maybe I should fact check because I might look bad). You did not.

You look bad.
In your quest to once again prove to the world with hindsight and limited information that your smarter than Mills your other side of the brain opened the door and let the ignorant out the door. Its like half of you wants the other half to stop. You should figure out away to listen to this.
You are obsessed with making Mills look bad. His record speaks for itself. Nobody argues this.
Nalod is obsessed with making you look bad. Your record speaks for itself. Nobody argues this either.
I need to do better.

I actually agree with 1248 on the stretching Noah thing. They stretched him at an odd time (October 2018) after free agency but before the season. So his 18mm vested for 18-19 and then the 18m for 19-20 gets spread for 19-20, 20-21 and 21-22. Raised my eyebrows cause it did nothing for the Knicks to do that. The extra roster spot didn't do anything for us. Worst case, Noah would have been unhappy that year and this year. Now, most of us are unhappy being reminded of this until 21-22.

Mills was terrible and I am happy to see him called out on his terrible job repeatedly because it will hopefully serve as a reminder to keep him out of the front office.