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Allanfan20
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11/18/2020  9:29 AM
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11/18/2020  9:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/18/2020  9:37 AM
Interesting. I don’t love giving away a early second just to move up 4 spots late in the round but Obviously there must be somebody they are targeting who they feel had no chance to fall to 27. Hopefully we can buy a second rounder too
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11/18/2020  9:36 AM
I think the knicks can still buy a pick on the second round if they want another player. Now the question is who are they trying to get at 23?
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11/18/2020  9:37 AM
Probably someone they could have had with pick 38 anyway
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11/18/2020  9:38 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:Interesting. I don’t love giving away a early second just to move up 4 spots late in the round but Obviously there must be somebody they are targeting who they feel had no chance to fall to 27. Hopefully we can buy a second rounder too

Either that or they plan to trade 23 and 8 to move up.

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11/18/2020  9:38 AM
Who can that player be? The knick can still but a pick in the second round
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11/18/2020  9:40 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Interesting. I don’t love giving away a early second just to move up 4 spots late in the round but Obviously there must be somebody they are targeting who they feel had no chance to fall to 27. Hopefully we can buy a second rounder too

Either that or they plan to trade 23 and 8 to move up.

Possibly. Although I’ve heard the Knicks were only interested in moving up in the top 3. I don’t know if that enough. There have been rumors that’s it would take Mitch, 8, and something else for the warriors to move back
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11/18/2020  9:40 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Interesting. I don’t love giving away a early second just to move up 4 spots late in the round but Obviously there must be somebody they are targeting who they feel had no chance to fall to 27. Hopefully we can buy a second rounder too

Either that or they plan to trade 23 and 8 to move up.

Interesting thought... less than 12 hours and we will know how it will all unravel
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11/18/2020  9:43 AM
Jimbo5 wrote:I think the knicks can still buy a pick on the second round if they want another player. Now the question is who are they trying to get at 23?
Philly has a million second round picks. I'm sure the Knicks could snag one of them if they really needed to.
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11/18/2020  9:45 AM
Now Can we trade the 8th and frank for #2 or 3
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Welpee wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:I think the knicks can still buy a pick on the second round if they want another player. Now the question is who are they trying to get at 23?
Philly has a million second round picks. I'm sure the Knicks could snag one of them if they really needed to.
Agreed. I specially this year I think teams are willing to sell second rounders
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11/18/2020  9:46 AM
FrenchKnicks wrote:Probably someone they could have had with pick 38 anyway

Naw, there are definitely guys in that range like Woodard, Bane, RJ Hampton and Terry that were probably never going to see the second round.

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11/18/2020  9:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/18/2020  9:47 AM
My first thought is this has to be a play for something bigger because face value this trade makes no sense. There is NO way they can predict in this particular draft someone not being there at 27 but being there at 23. Even for a trade for a higher lotto pick it doesn't make sense to me, as in this draft I would think the 27 and 38 would be more valuable than the 23 due to the talent level being so close at the bottom of the first/beginning of the second. The ONLY way I see this making sense is they know someone they like got a guarantee from someone in the picks 24 to 26 range and they needed to get ahead of that team to grab whoever.
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11/18/2020  9:47 AM
I know it's a good thing that we have no idea what the team is planning, but damnit I want to know now!!!
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11/18/2020  9:49 AM
Why would they trade up four spots HOURS BEFORE the draft ???
They could have a deal in place IF the player they're targeting were still on the board.
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11/18/2020  9:53 AM
FrenchKnicks wrote:Why would they trade up four spots HOURS BEFORE the draft ???
They could have a deal in place IF the player they're targeting were still on the board.

Maybe they need Pick #23 as part of another trade.
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11/18/2020  9:56 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Interesting. I don’t love giving away a early second just to move up 4 spots late in the round but Obviously there must be somebody they are targeting who they feel had no chance to fall to 27. Hopefully we can buy a second rounder too

Either that or they plan to trade 23 and 8 to move up.

Possibly. Although I’ve heard the Knicks were only interested in moving up in the top 3. I don’t know if that enough. There have been rumors that’s it would take Mitch, 8, and something else for the warriors to move back

I wouldn’t trade Mitch but I would be inclined to let go of Knox or Frank.

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11/18/2020  9:58 AM
Either way, we know if they move to the top 3, they want Ball and if they move to 4 or 5 they are getting Toppin.
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11/18/2020  9:59 AM
joec32033 wrote:My first thought is this has to be a play for something bigger because face value this trade makes no sense. There is NO way they can predict in this particular draft someone not being there at 27 but being there at 23. Even for a trade for a higher lotto pick it doesn't make sense to me, as in this draft I would think the 27 and 38 would be more valuable than the 23 due to the talent level being so close at the bottom of the first/beginning of the second. The ONLY way I see this making sense is they know someone they like got a guarantee from someone in the picks 24 to 26 range and they needed to get ahead of that team to grab whoever.
I disagree.

If the Knicks see I guy they really like being projected to go in the 20s, if moving up 4 spots increases you chances of getting the guy you want by say 30% and all you had to do is forfeit a 2nd round pick (#38), it makes total sense to me. Especially since acquiring a 2nd pick elsewhere is probably very doable. Philly has four 2nd round picks. You would think simply buying one from them is an option.
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