2) Crazy with the Warriors. Andrew Wiggins and #2 for Julius Randle, Mitchell Robinson, Frank Ntlikina and #2. Not sure how the Wiggins/Thibodeau relationship is in actuality. But this move assumes they get along and want to work together again. With the #2 I’m taking Wiseman. I see this as a lateral trade of Randle for Wiggins and then a trade of 8 and Robinson for Wiseman. We might be giving up a lot, but you gotta give to get.

3)Sign and Trade for Christian Woods and Fred Van Vleet. Use filler and 2nd Rd picks to make the salary work.

FVV
Hield
Wiggins
Wood
Wiseman

It should take a year to gel and get guys playing Thib’s style. You have the 21 draft pick to ease that pain.

The floor would be spread with guys that hit the 3. Couple guys might need attitude adjustments, so it could go poorly from that perspective. It’s missing the veteran presence, but maybe you get a couple guys on a VetMin to help out. Relies on Thibs ability to craft a team defense, but I’d be pretty happy with this.

Buddy Hield is a problem in the lockeroom, why would you give up a hardworking guy that wants to get better for a guy making $20MM that has an attitude problem. Barrett is going to really put it together in the next two years.

BRIGGS wrote:Although there are names I like there---Im not trading RJ Barrett.

Hield I dont like and FVV is a good not great player that is going to get some serious cash.

Im pretty willing to draft the next two years to rebuild.

Im staying with Wiseman Nesmith Okoro at 8

Take BPA at 27 38 (its to hard to put a name in as what if Cole Anthony dropped to 27 for example)
Depending on our situation I also like Woods in free agency.

Yeah I’m all for moving Randle for Hield in a dump situation but otherwise I’d rather put a wing next to Barrett via draft or free agency that can shoot. Nesmith, Vassell, Joe Harris or Malik Beasley would work fine.

KnickDanger wrote:Some of us feel RJ would go first in this year's draft and others want to trade him for a sandwich.

He would absolutely go first in this draft. Would be a better fit in Minnesota than any of the top prospects. RJs upside isn’t out of this world but he’s going to be a very good player. Had he never reclassified he would have been even more dominant at Duke a year older and be an easy , high floor pick at #1. Minn wouldn’t be so desperate to move the pick as they seem.

Knixkik wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:Some of us feel RJ would go first in this year's draft and others want to trade him for a sandwich.

He would absolutely go first in this draft. Would be a better fit in Minnesota than any of the top prospects. RJs upside isn’t out of this world but he’s going to be a very good player. Had he never reclassified he would have been even more dominant at Duke a year older and be an easy , high floor pick at #1. Minn wouldn’t be so desperate to move the pick as they seem.

Is Wiseman the real deal?
If RJ world be no. 1 pick This year, Is there a conversation where we flip RJ for Wiseman?
I don’t know how teams value him, knicks included.
Question then tilts For MInny to who has an higher upside, Edwards or RJ?

I love Robinson, but I worry that his contract will expire before we’ve had a chance to really build with him.

I’ve gotten pretty infatuated with Wiseman.

After Bradley Beal, Buddy Hield is the only high volume/high percentage SG available.

I’d happily see what Thibs can do with our young guys, but I think adding a couple 3 pt shooters would open up the game for the rest of the team.

BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:I guess I just worry about Barrett’s 61% FT%. That’s a real liability. He can’t have the ball in his hands at the end of the game.

I love Robinson, but I worry that his contract will expire before we’ve had a chance to really build with him.

I’ve gotten pretty infatuated with Wiseman.

After Bradley Beal, Buddy Hield is the only high volume/high percentage SG available.

I’d happily see what Thibs can do with our young guys, but I think adding a couple 3 pt shooters would open up the game for the rest of the team.

I get what you're saying about RJ's free throw percentages, but it's no like he's in year three. Too early to sound the alarm. I'm not high on Wiseman yet, but I'm a big fan Oneyka. I might've been more into the idea of moving Mitch for #2 earlier in the season. But the more I look into this draft, the less impressed I become with the top of it. If you said 8, Portia or whoever for Hield, I'd connsider it.

I’m sure that trade is out there also. I don’t really like the idea of moving Barrett to the 3 though.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy just to draft at 8 and see what happens. We will need to address shooting at some point.

wargames wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:Some of us feel RJ would go first in this year's draft and others want to trade him for a sandwich.

He would absolutely go first in this draft. Would be a better fit in Minnesota than any of the top prospects. RJs upside isn’t out of this world but he’s going to be a very good player. Had he never reclassified he would have been even more dominant at Duke a year older and be an easy , high floor pick at #1. Minn wouldn’t be so desperate to move the pick as they seem.

They would take him in a second. He’s more skilled that Edwards, and there are no questions about his BBIQ. RJ also isn’t raw like Edwards where you have to assume he needs 3-4 years of development to unlock his potential.

Russell
Beasley
RJ
Spellman
Wiggins

Would be a really interesting team.

Speaking of Beasley, he's a RFA this year. Coming off his rookie contract, he would make a nice addition at SG. His contract would be much more doable, especially if Minnie keeps their # 1 pick, and need to pay that pick 10 million dollars yearly.