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10/13/2020  9:47 PM
How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.
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10/13/2020  10:00 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.


Maybe a draft day trade. Not sure who we can give them to add Kelly. This is BS season, so take every rumor with with a gallon jug worth of salt. The Knicks have "shown interest" in nearly every combo guard eligible for the draft.
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10/13/2020  10:25 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.

Moreover, why would the Knicks trade down 2 spots while helping a team unload a contract? Oubre a headcase. If you trade for him you receive a pick

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10/13/2020  10:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/13/2020  10:55 PM
I’m intrigued by Maxey and Lewis in a trade down. I think both are in consideration at 8, but ideally you trade down to get future draft equity that can be used in a trade down the road. I’m not sure what Maxeys best position is, but I think in today’s game it doesn’t matter as long as his shooting is better than his college numbers suggest. But I can buy this rumor as legit because I’m sure Payne and Wes really like Maxey.
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10/14/2020  12:00 AM
Oubre really seemed to mature/develop when he went to Phx - he's a great complementary wing who would certainly help our talent-challenged roster. He's not too old either, but he has a history of injuries. I'd take him and try to sign Baynes as a backup to Mitch. Use #10 on a guard and sign a stretch four... not a bad offseason
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10/14/2020  12:11 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.


Maybe a draft day trade. Not sure who we can give them to add Kelly. This is BS season, so take every rumor with with a gallon jug worth of salt. The Knicks have "shown interest" in nearly every combo guard eligible for the draft.

With the way the knicks news cycle have been going, the media is suggesting the the front office would like to have a roster with around 6-8 PG or SG! I guess last season was the year of the power forwards. This year media thinks its time to load up on point gurads and shooting guards, from CP3, FFV, Donavan, Conley, hield, an I missing any other flavor of the week?

I cant wait for this draft to be over to give us more clarity on the direction of this front office. Enough with all these speculations from media. I want them to find a gem or 2 in this draft, i think Vassell and Maxey, one of them can surprise people next year.

Just sign DJ Agustin for point guard stability and just develop both Frank and DSJ.
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10/14/2020  8:22 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/14/2020  8:24 AM
Jimbo5 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.


Maybe a draft day trade. Not sure who we can give them to add Kelly. This is BS season, so take every rumor with with a gallon jug worth of salt. The Knicks have "shown interest" in nearly every combo guard eligible for the draft.

With the way the knicks news cycle have been going, the media is suggesting the the front office would like to have a roster with around 6-8 PG or SG! I guess last season was the year of the power forwards. This year media thinks its time to load up on point gurads and shooting guards, from CP3, FFV, Donavan, Conley, hield, an I missing any other flavor of the week?

I cant wait for this draft to be over to give us more clarity on the direction of this front office. Enough with all these speculations from media. I want them to find a gem or 2 in this draft, i think Vassell and Maxey, one of them can surprise people next year.

Just sign DJ Agustin for point guard stability and just develop both Frank and DSJ.

I think Vassell, Maxey and Lewis all can be very good players. I agree with signing DJ Augustin. He’s a good shooter and pick and roll player. He can play on and off the ball and would be good for RJ. I would also look into Malik Beasley who is a RFA but is only 23 and is a high volume 3pt shooter. The goal this summer should be the rebuild the backcourt to fit better with RJ.
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10/14/2020  10:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/14/2020  10:22 AM
martin wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.

Moreover, why would the Knicks trade down 2 spots while helping a team unload a contract? Oubre a headcase. If you trade for him you receive a pick

what makes you say he's a headcase? I never heard anything like that when he was with the Wiz and DC is my local sports talk radio

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martin wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.

Moreover, why would the Knicks trade down 2 spots while helping a team unload a contract? Oubre a headcase. If you trade for him you receive a pick

what makes you say he's a headcase? I never heard anything like that when he was with the Wiz and DC is my local sports talk radio

I don't have the direct links and perhaps headcase is not the perfect word but I have read about his high maintenance personality more than once. Second alpha guy behind Booker and organization and team needed to
manage him.

Pheonix is an interesting team and they had an incredible run. Will be interesting how they manage their cap and next moves.

I'd guess that Oubre is on the move but will come at a cost for PHO

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10/14/2020  11:11 AM
martin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.

Moreover, why would the Knicks trade down 2 spots while helping a team unload a contract? Oubre a headcase. If you trade for him you receive a pick

what makes you say he's a headcase? I never heard anything like that when he was with the Wiz and DC is my local sports talk radio

I don't have the direct links and perhaps headcase is not the perfect word but I have read about his high maintenance personality more than once. Second alpha guy behind Booker and organization and team needed to
manage him.

Pheonix is an interesting team and they had an incredible run. Will be interesting how they manage their cap and next moves.

I'd guess that Oubre is on the move but will come at a cost for PHO

so I am not supporting acquiring Oubre because I feel like we just paid a king's ransom to dump THJ and Courtney Lee... I don't see Oubre as a massive upgrade from them so I am against Oubre...

that said, I know the DC fanbase did not want to let him go. They thought he was their second best player behind Beal but they are in cap hell.

I do think Oubre could evolve and grow even more but he is an average NBA player atm, he is making bank, and in this COVID world it is probably better to load up on rookie contracts

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martin wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:
martin wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.

Moreover, why would the Knicks trade down 2 spots while helping a team unload a contract? Oubre a headcase. If you trade for him you receive a pick

what makes you say he's a headcase? I never heard anything like that when he was with the Wiz and DC is my local sports talk radio

I don't have the direct links and perhaps headcase is not the perfect word but I have read about his high maintenance personality more than once. Second alpha guy behind Booker and organization and team needed to
manage him.

Pheonix is an interesting team and they had an incredible run. Will be interesting how they manage their cap and next moves.

I'd guess that Oubre is on the move but will come at a cost for PHO

so I am not supporting acquiring Oubre because I feel like we just paid a king's ransom to dump THJ and Courtney Lee... I don't see Oubre as a massive upgrade from them so I am against Oubre...

that said, I know the DC fanbase did not want to let him go. They thought he was their second best player behind Beal but they are in cap hell.

I do think Oubre could evolve and grow even more but he is an average NBA player atm, he is making bank, and in this COVID world it is probably better to load up on rookie contracts

Also think he is sticky with the ball and Phoenix likes Mikal much better

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10/14/2020  12:42 PM
Trade up, Trade down, Trade out, seems like a new rumor every day.

And BTW, there is no perfect player, with the perfect contract, that has the perfect skills, that's the perfect age, with the perfect personality.

All i want is a balance roster, that has a mix of youth, veterans, shooters, defenders, versatile bigs, leaders, role players who will embrace their role, (and most important) unselfish, aggressive players who are passionate about winning, which i felt we had from 1996 to 2002, and 2012.


Thats the route Leon needs to be on

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knicks1248 wrote:Trade up, Trade down, Trade out, seems like a new rumor every day.

And BTW, there is no perfect player, with the perfect contract, that has the perfect skills, that's the perfect age, with the perfect personality.

All i want is a balance roster, that has a mix of youth, veterans, shooters, defenders, versatile bigs, leaders, role players who will embrace their role, (and most important) unselfish, aggressive players who are passionate about winning, which i felt we had from 1996 to 2002, and 2012.


Thats the route Leon needs to be on


Nice contradiction.
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10/14/2020  2:10 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:How do you guys feel about this latest rumor?

Im very intrigued about Tyrese Maxey. If he continues to develop i see a lot of Donovan in his game and with Johnny Bryant with the team they can very well mold him into a Donavan clone.

The Suns want to trade up and clear some cap space by trading #10 and Oubre. Will moving 2 spots up be enough for them? Getting say Oubre and Maxey will be a very interesting prospect for the knicks, that move can solidify our wing positions. But honestly i dont think the suns will be interested to move up just 2 spots.

Feel Rumor is based on Wesley-Calipari connection. And now with the addition of Payne. I like Maxey. Have been calling for him to be considered if we trade down and pick him up with say someone like Bey. My only fear is his low 3pt. shooting percentage. Although a tenacious defender it may be another addition of yet another guard that needs to improve his shooting. Still hoping that if we cannot get Toppin, Avdija at 8 that we trade down for couple more picks in the teens and pick up more shooters (Nesmith, Bey, Terry). Or maybe an athletic 2 way SF. Hoping we add Bane, Joe, with the 27 then Merrill or Pritchard with the 38. Think we have seen how important it is to have guys that can knock down shots. It will be interesting to see what happens. With the equality of talent level and the lack of ability to evaluate this class, I am sure that there will be a lot of different trade scenarios playing out.

Fyi: Here is a decent break down down of his game:

https://theknickswall.com/knicks-2020-draft-profiles-tyrese-maxey-kentucky-guard-worth-keeping-tabs/

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10/15/2020  8:23 PM
This week's news cycle is focusing on trade up to #1 or #2. But the possibility of trading down to the 15-20 range should still be explored. If we go down from 8 to 15-20. What kind of return can the Knicks realistically get?

I believe this draft has 2 tiers, the top 3 players and the rest of the draft class. Moving down from 8 this year feels way different from the previous years, if there is a year to move down its now. Next year is a year to get extra picks and move up.

What should the knicks get if the move down? An extra first rounder top 10 protected? Can we get more?
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10/15/2020  9:09 PM
Holy crap just stay at 8 and draft Vassell or Nesmith. This isn’t rocket science
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10/15/2020  9:16 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:This week's news cycle is focusing on trade up to #1 or #2. But the possibility of trading down to the 15-20 range should still be explored. If we go down from 8 to 15-20. What kind of return can the Knicks realistically get?

I believe this draft has 2 tiers, the top 3 players and the rest of the draft class. Moving down from 8 this year feels way different from the previous years, if there is a year to move down its now. Next year is a year to get extra picks and move up.

What should the knicks get if the move down? An extra first rounder top 10 protected? Can we get more?


I don't think a deal like that happens until we have a firmer outline of the draft order. It might take until draft night. The Celtics are still their with all their picks, so who knows. But if the top 2 draft teams are looking to trade down, then that tells you how this draft is viewed. I don't think teams are going to blow us out the door for pick #8.
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10/15/2020  9:58 PM
If they think Maxey is the guy they should just draft him at 8. He’s not really a reach there because everyone knows he’s talented and has upside. He’s a legit 2-way talent. If he ends up as the next Jrue Holiday or Kyle Lowry which I see as common comps than that’s great. Maybe they can get some extra pieces to move down but can’t move down too much and then have him not be there so if they like him they should take him.
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10/15/2020  10:17 PM
There was a video of Vassell shooting the 3ball with an ugly form, the video was taken out shortly after.

What is easier to do, move down from 8 to 15-20s or move up from 27 to 15-20s?

Maybe we can stay at 8 and draft Maxey and move up from 27 and draft someone like J Smith or Poku?
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10/15/2020  10:34 PM
Yeah if you believe in a player just pick him at 8 or even move up, don't get cute. If it's al a wash then by all means move back.
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