Kidd went and took a bunch of second round picks and a skinny kid from Greece and made a ROY, All Stars, and is the lead assistant coach on the number #1 seed team in the whole damn league. Two teams with his fingerprints all over them are likely going to meet in the finals.

I don’t care if he had beat his ex-wife, and neither did anyone else associated when the Knicks when he played here a few years ago, because that had happened decades ago and he was ostracized over when it happened in the past. He is a scumbag but most athletes are. It’s wrong, but no one cared for a decade after it happened.

I also appreciate the fact he did the Nets dirty, I want more people to do them dirty. As a organization they are a bunch of scumbags that go out there way to do the knicks dirty.

Not saying we have to go with the coach with the most integrity - but maybe just stay away from the ones that seem lowest on the recent list. I'd personally go for Atkinson as he seems like a good fit for the type of roster we currently have and wouldn't have to trade low on all our young players to acquire 29 year old vets to sneak into the playoffs next season.

jskinny35 wrote:WarGames - all players and coaches look out for themselves first - nothing wrong with that as it's to be expected. Kidd and M.Jackson were terrific players but trouble follows them due to their behaviors and that's why they have the reputations they have. Lakers didn't want to touch Kidd as an assistant, but changed minds due to LBJ. It's okay to secretly want your head coaches job - it's different when you get caught trying to overthrow the head coach as an assistant. I'm all for the Mike Millers and type that seem to focus on themselves, their job performance and are accountable for their efforts. Kidd seems like a sophisticated car salesman - great interviews, yet look at the end results. Ok records with terrible departure drama. We have enough of that already. Look how much better Bud is doing with Bucks... no Christmas cards from the Nets arrriving anytime soon.

Not saying we have to go with the coach with the most integrity - but maybe just stay away from the ones that seem lowest on the recent list. I'd personally go for Atkinson as he seems like a good fit for the type of roster we currently have and wouldn't have to trade low on all our young players to acquire 29 year old vets to sneak into the playoffs next season.

He didn’t try to overthrow a HC, he tried to overthrow the worst GM in NBA history in Billy King. Think about that, because we’ve had some real stinkers as GMs and Billy King was worse than all of them. His only issues with coaches was when he had beef with his assistant coach Lawrence Frank and it spilled out into the media.

Also yes Bud is a better coach than Kidd, arguably Budd is the best coach in the NBA. Kidd however took a bunch of Scraps like a skinny Giannis and said put the ball in his hands and that is a major key to Giannis becoming the MVP he is now. He took a second rounder in Malcolm Brogdon (a pg, like we will likely draft) and got ROY production from him. Kidd took Middleton who was a no name add on in a Brandon Knight trade and set him on the path to him being a All Star. His development credentials outshine all the other candidates in the pipeline.

Bring Kidd to NY, draft a PG (hopefully Hayes), let Kidd take RJ aside and teach him how to be the man with the ball in his hands. Keep Miller on as the defensive coach since that is the only real flaw to his coaching history and lets see what happens.

Saying Kidd is a car salesman is mixing him up with Fizdale, his record shows that every team he’s join got better with him. I am not saying he is the long term fix, but for where we are he might be exactly what the Knicks need.

Jimbo5 wrote:Kidd's player development skills hasn't stood out and hasn't been talked about, i think its not his strong suit at all. Hiring him would signal giving up on most of the team's youth. I would expect knox, DSJ and Frank to be casualties if this hire becomes a reality. I see a Kidd hire as a signal to an end to the patient approach, for this to work the front office will be looking to replicate a knicks-denver trade situation bring it the superstar they want at any cost type of deal. In other words, i don't think he is a good coach. I think Kidd can do well if he has descent tools, that is not the knicks right now. I truly hope I'm wrong on this. I really cant see why this hire is a good idea.

Is this a Madlib where you put Kidd in the space where Thibs is supposed to be?

Not even joking that is literally what A Thibs hiring says, not a Kidd hiring who literally at his last job successfully developed a bunch of kids.

The Bucks has the worst (or one of the worst) records in the league and he took a team of mostly youth to the playoffs that year.