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BRIGGS
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7/21/2020  7:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2020  11:21 AM
I’m going to assume no chance at number 1 pick

Pick 6-7 Aaron Nesmith Sg
Pick 17-25 Saddiq Bey F
Pick 37 Payton Pritchard Pg

Free agency. Christian Wood 3 years 60 team option for 4 and Dragic 1 year 13 mm

I’m willing to use Kevin Knox Or a Dallas first rounder to move up to get Bey

This would be a big winner. Battle tested youth with a burgeoning 6-11 nba star

Increase 3 point shooting by a long shot and with Randle Wood and Robinson the best young frontcourt in the nba

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7/21/2020  7:33 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I’m going to assume no chance at number 1 pick

Pick 6-7 Aaron Nesmith Sg
Pick 17-25 Saddiq Bey F
Pick 37 Payton Pritchard Pg

Free agency. Christian Wood 3 years 60 team option for 4

I’m willing to use Kevin Knox Or a Dallas first rounder to move up to get Bey

This would be a big winner. Battle tested youth with a burgeoning 6-11 nba star

Increase 3 point shooting by a long shot and with Randle Wood and Robinson the best young frontcourt in the nba

I agree with the players but we need a starting caliber PG.

BRIGGS
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7/21/2020  8:01 AM
Knixkik wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I’m going to assume no chance at number 1 pick

Pick 6-7 Aaron Nesmith Sg
Pick 17-25 Saddiq Bey F
Pick 37 Payton Pritchard Pg

Free agency. Christian Wood 3 years 60 team option for 4

I’m willing to use Kevin Knox Or a Dallas first rounder to move up to get Bey

This would be a big winner. Battle tested youth with a burgeoning 6-11 nba star

Increase 3 point shooting by a long shot and with Randle Wood and Robinson the best young frontcourt in the nba

I agree with the players but we need a starting caliber PG.

I’d be willing to go with Frank Pritchard and perhaps another d leaguer etc.. is fine for now. I’d also like to look at Barrett at pg.

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7/21/2020  8:19 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I’m going to assume no chance at number 1 pick

Pick 6-7 Aaron Nesmith Sg
Pick 17-25 Saddiq Bey F
Pick 37 Payton Pritchard Pg

Free agency. Christian Wood 3 years 60 team option for 4

I’m willing to use Kevin Knox Or a Dallas first rounder to move up to get Bey

This would be a big winner. Battle tested youth with a burgeoning 6-11 nba star

Increase 3 point shooting by a long shot and with Randle Wood and Robinson the best young frontcourt in the nba

I agree with the players but we need a starting caliber PG.

I’d be willing to go with Frank Pritchard and perhaps another d leaguer etc.. is fine for now. I’d also like to look at Barrett at pg.

There's very little realism to this plan because If thibs is the coach the chances of this roster being predominately young is very far fetch.

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7/21/2020  8:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2020  2:22 PM
Aaron Nesmith at 6-7 pick would be a risk. He only played 14 games this past season and his prior season, he was not a great shooter. We would be putting a lot of faith in a small sample size. He is also only an average athlete who does not create for others and plays only so-so defense (but who has potential to be better). If we were picking 10-13, then not a problem. A guy like Vassell is a better athlete, has proven his shooting ability over more games and more seasons, is a better defender, a better passer, and is more versatile because he legitimately can play the 2 or 3. If we were going to go away from taking a PG, Vassell would be my first choice.
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7/21/2020  8:37 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I’m going to assume no chance at number 1 pick

Pick 6-7 Aaron Nesmith Sg
Pick 17-25 Saddiq Bey F
Pick 37 Payton Pritchard Pg

Free agency. Christian Wood 3 years 60 team option for 4

I’m willing to use Kevin Knox Or a Dallas first rounder to move up to get Bey

This would be a big winner. Battle tested youth with a burgeoning 6-11 nba star

Increase 3 point shooting by a long shot and with Randle Wood and Robinson the best young frontcourt in the nba

I agree with the players but we need a starting caliber PG.

I’d be willing to go with Frank Pritchard and perhaps another d leaguer etc.. is fine for now. I’d also like to look at Barrett at pg.

There's very little realism to this plan because If thibs is the coach the chances of this roster being predominately young is very far fetch.

Agreed. There's no way you go into the next year with Frank as the starter, even if Barrett is the primary playmaker. I see Frank as a great backup combo guard for a thibs team. But it will be CP3 or VanVleet or maybe even Teague, who played under thibs in Minn. But won't be Frank. We just need more offense and shooting at PG right now.

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7/21/2020  8:41 AM
I think Frank starts at PG this year.
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7/21/2020  9:03 AM
Christian Wood 60mm over 3 years is not “realism”. Like Whiteside your drawn to guys with high talent. Riley was too. Some guys have it but their head is not into it until contract year. IM sure he is saying all the right stuff and perhaps has a “life coach” to keep him focused. I would hope so. This is the hard part of being a GM/scout. Assigning market value to a guy’s head/heart vs. his talent. Put him with a pain in the ass coach like Thibs either enhances His career or he gets burned out.
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7/21/2020  9:06 AM
NYKBocker wrote:I think Frank starts at PG this year.

You really think Leon Rose thinks Frank can lead a good offense at this point? He wants to win this year.

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7/21/2020  9:24 AM
Knixkik wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I think Frank starts at PG this year.

You really think Leon Rose thinks Frank can lead a good offense at this point? He wants to win this year.

Whether Rose wants to win or build for the long term, Frank has yet to show he belongs in the NBA. Hey, maybe by the time this next season starts, whenever that is, he'll be ready for a role. But to head into this next season counting on Frank to have a defined role is actual malpractice.

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7/21/2020  9:27 AM
franco12 wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I think Frank starts at PG this year.

You really think Leon Rose thinks Frank can lead a good offense at this point? He wants to win this year.

Whether Rose wants to win or build for the long term, Frank has yet to show he belongs in the NBA. Hey, maybe by the time this next season starts, whenever that is, he'll be ready for a role. But to head into this next season counting on Frank to have a defined role is actual malpractice.


Exactly. I like him but he just hasn't proven it yet.
knicks1248
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7/21/2020  9:32 AM
NYKBocker wrote:I think Frank starts at PG this year.

I think it's more of you "wanting frank to be the starter" because Frank is not a starting NBA pg by any stretch of the imagination.

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7/21/2020  9:34 AM
BRIGGS wrote:I’m going to assume no chance at number 1 pick

Pick 6-7 Aaron Nesmith Sg
Pick 17-25 Saddiq Bey F
Pick 37 Payton Pritchard Pg

Free agency. Christian Wood 3 years 60 team option for 4

I’m willing to use Kevin Knox Or a Dallas first rounder to move up to get Bey

This would be a big winner. Battle tested youth with a burgeoning 6-11 nba star

Increase 3 point shooting by a long shot and with Randle Wood and Robinson the best young frontcourt in the nba

Why the F are you so in love with Christian Wood? There was a post that I though disabused anyone of the idea that he is a good 3pt shooter.

We don't need any more front court players. Our biggest need is PG, and if you don't address that, then you have no idea how to build a winning team.

Great to pick up a PG at 37 - but he or anyone outside of maybe Ball starts the year as a giant question mark.

#1 realistic plan is make Fred VanVleet target #1, 2 & 3. If you miss out on him, save the money, and maybe try to fill in some short term fills. I might bring Bobby Portis back on his option year.

I might say trade for Mike Conley - maybe Utah wants to clear his $34m off their cap next year- that is assuming Mike opts in to his last year, which I kinda think might be his right move, but who knows.

But Christian Wood when we have Julius Randle and Mitchell Robinson up front, RJ Barrett who probably should be a SF and zippo in the back court? Criminal Briggs.

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7/21/2020  9:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2020  9:55 AM
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I’m going to assume no chance at number 1 pick

Pick 6-7 Aaron Nesmith Sg
Pick 17-25 Saddiq Bey F
Pick 37 Payton Pritchard Pg

Free agency. Christian Wood 3 years 60 team option for 4

I’m willing to use Kevin Knox Or a Dallas first rounder to move up to get Bey

This would be a big winner. Battle tested youth with a burgeoning 6-11 nba star

Increase 3 point shooting by a long shot and with Randle Wood and Robinson the best young frontcourt in the nba

Why the F are you so in love with Christian Wood? There was a post that I though disabused anyone of the idea that he is a good 3pt shooter.

We don't need any more front court players. Our biggest need is PG, and if you don't address that, then you have no idea how to build a winning team.

Great to pick up a PG at 37 - but he or anyone outside of maybe Ball starts the year as a giant question mark.

#1 realistic plan is make Fred VanVleet target #1, 2 & 3. If you miss out on him, save the money, and maybe try to fill in some short term fills. I might bring Bobby Portis back on his option year.

I might say trade for Mike Conley - maybe Utah wants to clear his $34m off their cap next year- that is assuming Mike opts in to his last year, which I kinda think might be his right move, but who knows.

But Christian Wood when we have Julius Randle and Mitchell Robinson up front, RJ Barrett who probably should be a SF and zippo in the back court? Criminal Briggs.

I can’t trust M Robinson to play more than 20 minutes.I also love Randle as a scoring 4-5off the bench who can give me 17-7-3 in 28-32 min. Woods I’m betting to become a burgeoning star or atleast low level all star caliber who can also play 4-5.

I’d really like to give frank the keys to start — we’ve heavily invested in him but I also like the idea of moving Barrett to part time pg and then finding our own “ van fleet” in Pritchard and I feel strongly we’re gonna get there. I don’t need to se more than 15 games with Nesmith— he’s a new age Allan Houston with a true nba ready body and I feel he’s got klay thompson is potential while Vessell to me looks complete role player. Bey is the wildcard — obviously I posted 20x on him already. I want to do everything possible to get Bey and I’m willing to use Knox and a Dallas first rounder ( even both assets) to get him. I think gs is hot on him but I don’t think they can take him w a top 3 pick. Then I m hoping he slides into the late teens where w the right reasonable packager we can move up a bit and get him. Nbadraft. Net has him slotted 29 but he’s a teen imho.

So the synapsis here is going strong on young 3 point shooting wings who have strong bodies and play good D looking to acquire our own van fleet at a point where his development matches the Knicks and finally putting together a combination of players upfront that can dominate together — all guys young to the core in the hopes of making a team for 6-10 years

Remember Miami was super young for the most part this year and had a great team. I’m putting this team on the floor to not only develop together but win now. I want to play 11 guys. I want iggy as part of the rotation for sure

RIP Crushalot😞
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7/21/2020  10:46 AM
Knixkik wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I think Frank starts at PG this year.

You really think Leon Rose thinks Frank can lead a good offense at this point? He wants to win this year.

I didnt think about it, but Frank might be the best option, depending on who we draft or add in free agency. The only problem is Frank was picked too high. That doesn't mean he can't mold into a Charlie ward type pt guard. Having a guard with his physical tools and defensive roll would be helpful on any team. He's a good stop gap for now until a better option comes up.

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7/21/2020  11:13 AM
blkexec wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:I think Frank starts at PG this year.

You really think Leon Rose thinks Frank can lead a good offense at this point? He wants to win this year.

I didnt think about it, but Frank might be the best option, depending on who we draft or add in free agency. The only problem is Frank was picked too high. That doesn't mean he can't mold into a Charlie ward type pt guard. Having a guard with his physical tools and defensive roll would be helpful on any team. He's a good stop gap for now until a better option comes up.

If he can come back hit his 3s distribute play good and taken open lanes to the basket— he should be fine. And if he’s not— he’s done

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7/21/2020  11:21 AM
Line up
C Robinson
F Woods 3 years 60 mm
F Barrett
G Nesmith
G Ntkilina

CF Randle
F Bey
F Iggy
G Dragic 1 year 13 mm
Pg Pritchard

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7/21/2020  11:30 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Line up
C Robinson
F Woods 3 years 60 mm
F Barrett
G Nesmith
G Ntkilina

CF Randle
F Bey
F Iggy
G Dragic 1 year 13 mm
Pg Pritchard

what will happen with jared harper and dsj?

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7/21/2020  11:38 AM
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Line up
C Robinson
F Woods 3 years 60 mm
F Barrett
G Nesmith
G Ntkilina

CF Randle
F Bey
F Iggy
G Dragic 1 year 13 mm
Pg Pritchard

what will happen with jared harper and dsj?

Dennis Smith is gone
Harper is to small for me

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7/21/2020  11:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/21/2020  11:51 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Line up
C Robinson
F Woods 3 years 60 mm
F Barrett
G Nesmith
G Ntkilina

CF Randle
F Bey
F Iggy
G Dragic 1 year 13 mm
Pg Pritchard

The back court will get eaten alive. If anything just start Dragic in your scenario or sign Teague for a couple years until either Frank becomes a better shooter and playmaker or you find a long-term fix at PG. But you can't come out next year with Nesmith being the only shooter in the line-up, who is a rookie. We would still be the worst outside shooting team in the league by a mile. I know Woods can knock them down but he's not a true stretch 4. Nothing wrong with Woods, he's a talent, but if you are bringing him in then the other wing position opposite of Barrett and the PG need to be good shooters.

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