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Assistant General Manager of the Brooklyn Nets from 2013 (Promoted) to Apr 4, 2016 (Resigned).
Director of Player Personnel of the Brooklyn Nets from 2012-2013 (Hired) to 2012-2013 (Promoted).
Pro Personnel Scout of the Philadelphia Sixers from 2006-2007 (Promoted) to 2011-2012.
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Nalod wrote:Zanin was Billy Kings assistant In Jersey. , was with 76ers for years, from Philly so obviously Leon hires him (LOL), and seems solid. I suppose its “solid” cuz Leon hired him. When Mills hired Perry it was debated because of Mills. Craig Robinson, Michelle Obama’s brother and former Oregon also was “solid” on paper. THe blame game is “Whose fault is it why our guy don’t develop”?
I don’t know. Maybe the turnover of leadership.....PHil to MIlls, or the turnstile of coaches? Frank 3 years had three different presidents and 3 different coaches. That on Craig Robinson? I don’t know.
Leons on the Clock now and those are his guys. Be curious to see what all these guys think and do with our vast youth. I say “vast” because we have more of these guys than ever before. 7 years ago we had the 54 win team where 5 guys retired off that team. (Sheed, Kurt, Kidd, Camby and Kmart). WE also had Tyson, Earl Barron, Pablo and Q. That an old team.
Leon got a lot of work to be done. As with Perrin, its curious that we are hiring guys from other organizations before the season is technically over. They are technically getting promotions. Zaniness appears to been “just” an east coast scout looking to get back in to management. There are but so many NBA jobs so good for him. Good for us if he gets the job done! These are Leons guys that he likely leaned on for opinions and trust in them.

I get it! Your post made me think of all the great/good/decent coaches we hired that come here to fail. Larry Brown, Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkins, Mike D', Fizdale even. That's not counting the Fishers and Hornaceks. Phil in another capacity. A solid BB mind like Donnie Walsh struggles. So what is it? Players, front office, ownership? Media and fans? All of the above?

Here's hoping.

KnickDanger wrote:

Nalod wrote:Zanin was Billy Kings assistant In Jersey. , was with 76ers for years, from Philly so obviously Leon hires him (LOL), and seems solid. I suppose its “solid” cuz Leon hired him. When Mills hired Perry it was debated because of Mills. Craig Robinson, Michelle Obama’s brother and former Oregon also was “solid” on paper. THe blame game is “Whose fault is it why our guy don’t develop”?
I don’t know. Maybe the turnover of leadership.....PHil to MIlls, or the turnstile of coaches? Frank 3 years had three different presidents and 3 different coaches. That on Craig Robinson? I don’t know.
Leons on the Clock now and those are his guys. Be curious to see what all these guys think and do with our vast youth. I say “vast” because we have more of these guys than ever before. 7 years ago we had the 54 win team where 5 guys retired off that team. (Sheed, Kurt, Kidd, Camby and Kmart). WE also had Tyson, Earl Barron, Pablo and Q. That an old team.
Leon got a lot of work to be done. As with Perrin, its curious that we are hiring guys from other organizations before the season is technically over. They are technically getting promotions. Zaniness appears to been “just” an east coast scout looking to get back in to management. There are but so many NBA jobs so good for him. Good for us if he gets the job done! These are Leons guys that he likely leaned on for opinions and trust in them.

I get it! Your post made me think of all the great/good/decent coaches we hired that come here to fail. Larry Brown, Don Chaney, Lenny Wilkins, Mike D', Fizdale even. That's not counting the Fishers and Hornaceks. Phil in another capacity. A solid BB mind like Donnie Walsh struggles. So what is it? Players, front office, ownership? Media and fans? All of the above?

Here's hoping.

Dolan panics and Fans panic. Phil gets three years in and its not pretty. The moment he actually he goes to make a substantial move Dolan fires him for wanting to move a star. Nalod not saying I would have liked it either but Fair is fair. The moment we needed to let the man do his thing it was harder to muster the confidence because he had sucked. Look at PHilly, Hinkie seemed to be losing his “Process” and had to go. Colangelo’s did not do anythng special but cash some of the chips in for veteran presence and they began to contend. They had basically did not draft well except with Embiid and perhaps Simmons who still can’t shoot. Noel, Oka4 and Fultz were not good picks. Could not retain Butler. Yet they still came a shot away from making finals last year and if GSW broke down like they did for Raptors they would be champs.
My point is NOBODY had faith in Phil because he had noY done the job before and he apparently had work ethic issues around him. Did he deserve the blame? Yes. Was firing him justifiable? Yes. Should we had let him stay an trade KP? Well he thought he was injury prone and not a franchise leader. Yes. We know better of it in hindsight. It don’t work that way thought does it.
ITs not thought business. We come here justify our positions and “Be right and lay blame”. I also thought Mills was an intelligent guy and that would eventually prove to be a good executive.
Maybe he needed more time? He had even here too long and associated with too much pain. He had to go.
That don’t make it right, it makes it necessary.
Let’s hope Leon can get off to a fairly good start so he can withstand the statistical realities that come with the job: AKA “sometimes **** just don’t work out”. If you can get it to work sooner than later you get time.
Jerry Krause built a dynasty but then could not come close to rebuilding anything even close. He had three rebuilds: He inherited Jordan but drafted PIppen and installed Phil. Thats number one. Ten the Elton Brand/Artest/Jalen Rose teams, then a quick rebuild to Eddy/Tyson. He don’t get two chances unless he succeeds the first. Timing is everything.
We can go mad trying to look at “WHY” over our failures for 20 years.

CrushAlot wrote:In regards to Krause, an interesting tidbit came up regarding Floyd. Apparently he liked the nightlife in Chicagoand got himself thrown out of 3 home games so he could start his night out early. Saw this on twitter from a guy that covered the Bulls back then. He said Tim’s drinking habits were well known among the beat writers.

After all I have read and after 10 parts of the "last dance" there are many things to take away.
I'd say that really Rodman was about done, Pippens back was a problem and his while he was still good his back was a problem. Mostly Phil was cooked. The show was very much a Jordan propoganda show and personally I really liked it. it had some good objectivity at times but it painted him as mostly in th positive light.
Jordan cut a tendon in his hand and really could not have played in the strike short season. WHile we can all admire his sociopath competititive nature it comes at a cost and while he was not ready to hang it up he also understood he needed to.

GustavBahler wrote:Rose hiring veteran execs, looks like Leon knows what he doesnt know. Looks like he wants to be able to give himself (and Perry) all the info they need to make an informed decision. From the cap to the draft.

Sometimes its easy to see when someone is being groomed for bigger and better things. These recent hires look more like a genuine effort to have the best supoort staff. Have no idea if they're right for the job, but I believe see why Rose is making these moves.

Guessing Miller will get a 2 year deal while the NBA resets. He handled a lot of drama, was the voice of the team, when he shouldnt have been put in that situation. As well as doing a good job coaching in a difficult situation.

I think there is a lot to say for keeping Miller. Bringing in a new coach, besides being another change for the young players, also brings a new set of expectations and perhaps an unconscious raising of the bar. Whatever the sins of the Knicks as an organization over the past 20 years, stability and staying the course have not been among their virtues.

wargames wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Rose hiring veteran execs, looks like Leon knows what he doesnt know. Looks like he wants to be able to give himself (and Perry) all the info they need to make an informed decision. From the cap to the draft.

Sometimes its easy to see when someone is being groomed for bigger and better things. These recent hires look more like a genuine effort to have the best supoort staff. Have no idea if they're right for the job, but I believe see why Rose is making these moves.

Guessing Miller will get a 2 year deal while the NBA resets. He handled a lot of drama, was the voice of the team, when he shouldnt have been put in that situation. As well as doing a good job coaching in a difficult situation.

I think there is a lot to say for keeping Miller. Bringing in a new coach, besides being another change for the young players, also brings a new set of expectations and perhaps an unconscious raising of the bar. Whatever the sins of the Knicks as an organization over the past 20 years, stability and staying the course have not been among their virtues.

Until we know what coaches are on the market, we have no idea if they’ll keep Miller. Thibs May or may not be media hype, but if there is anything I am learning about Leon he is discreet with his moves.

I do agree that the new hires feel like building up the staff by getting qualified experts and giving them titles that reflect that they have been successful. I don’t think Leon will do the same for GM, he’ll probably just try and hire another teams GM for money. Especially in the soon to be real climate of teams wanting to cut back on staff.

Unless there are game changers out there available at coach and GM, dont see Rose making any changes in the near term. If Rose really wants to save $$$$, keeping Miller and Perry is the way to go. Also dont believe Rose wants to tell Perry and Miller, "Hey guys, thanks for the help getting through this rough patch.. See ya!"

Rose wouldnt have the cap room, the draft picks, etc, without Perry's work. As a long time Knicks fan, Im sure Rose knows thats a sea change from past GMs.

Ujiri, Steve Kerr, become available, who knows? Otherwise I dont see Rose making big moves in the near future, but you never know.

GustavBahler wrote:

wargames wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Rose hiring veteran execs, looks like Leon knows what he doesnt know. Looks like he wants to be able to give himself (and Perry) all the info they need to make an informed decision. From the cap to the draft.

Sometimes its easy to see when someone is being groomed for bigger and better things. These recent hires look more like a genuine effort to have the best supoort staff. Have no idea if they're right for the job, but I believe see why Rose is making these moves.

Guessing Miller will get a 2 year deal while the NBA resets. He handled a lot of drama, was the voice of the team, when he shouldnt have been put in that situation. As well as doing a good job coaching in a difficult situation.

I think there is a lot to say for keeping Miller. Bringing in a new coach, besides being another change for the young players, also brings a new set of expectations and perhaps an unconscious raising of the bar. Whatever the sins of the Knicks as an organization over the past 20 years, stability and staying the course have not been among their virtues.

Until we know what coaches are on the market, we have no idea if they’ll keep Miller. Thibs May or may not be media hype, but if there is anything I am learning about Leon he is discreet with his moves.

I do agree that the new hires feel like building up the staff by getting qualified experts and giving them titles that reflect that they have been successful. I don’t think Leon will do the same for GM, he’ll probably just try and hire another teams GM for money. Especially in the soon to be real climate of teams wanting to cut back on staff.

Unless there are game changers out there available at coach and GM, dont see Rose making any changes in the near term. If Rose really wants to save $$$$, keeping Miller and Perry is the way to go. Also dont believe Rose wants to tell Perry and Miller, "Hey guys, thanks for the help getting through this rough patch.. See ya!"

Rose wouldnt have the cap room, the draft picks, etc, without Perry's work. As a long time Knicks fan, Im sure Rose knows thats a sea change from past GMs.

Ujiri, Steve Kerr, become available, who knows? Otherwise I dont see Rose making big moves in the near future, but you never know.

That’s actually a good point. We wouldn’t have the cap space or the picks if not for Perry. He wasn’t the decision maker as much as the guy executed and he did that. He even went against Mills when it became clear that Mills was prioritizing his own job over the work he did.

This actually makes me feel better about Perry in general.

GustavBahler wrote:

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

wargames wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Rose hiring veteran execs, looks like Leon knows what he doesnt know. Looks like he wants to be able to give himself (and Perry) all the info they need to make an informed decision. From the cap to the draft.

Sometimes its easy to see when someone is being groomed for bigger and better things. These recent hires look more like a genuine effort to have the best supoort staff. Have no idea if they're right for the job, but I believe see why Rose is making these moves.

Guessing Miller will get a 2 year deal while the NBA resets. He handled a lot of drama, was the voice of the team, when he shouldnt have been put in that situation. As well as doing a good job coaching in a difficult situation.

I think there is a lot to say for keeping Miller. Bringing in a new coach, besides being another change for the young players, also brings a new set of expectations and perhaps an unconscious raising of the bar. Whatever the sins of the Knicks as an organization over the past 20 years, stability and staying the course have not been among their virtues.

Until we know what coaches are on the market, we have no idea if they’ll keep Miller. Thibs May or may not be media hype, but if there is anything I am learning about Leon he is discreet with his moves.

I do agree that the new hires feel like building up the staff by getting qualified experts and giving them titles that reflect that they have been successful. I don’t think Leon will do the same for GM, he’ll probably just try and hire another teams GM for money. Especially in the soon to be real climate of teams wanting to cut back on staff.

Unless there are game changers out there available at coach and GM, dont see Rose making any changes in the near term. If Rose really wants to save $$$$, keeping Miller and Perry is the way to go. Also dont believe Rose wants to tell Perry and Miller, "Hey guys, thanks for the help getting through this rough patch.. See ya!"

Rose wouldnt have the cap room, the draft picks, etc, without Perry's work. As a long time Knicks fan, Im sure Rose knows thats a sea change from past GMs.

Ujiri, Steve Kerr, become available, who knows? Otherwise I dont see Rose making big moves in the near future, but you never know.

That’s actually a good point. We wouldn’t have the cap space or the picks if not for Perry. He wasn’t the decision maker as much as the guy executed and he did that. He even went against Mills when it became clear that Mills was prioritizing his own job over the work he did.

This actually makes me feel better about Perry in general.

Unlike past Knicks execs, Perry has walked it like he talked it. He's given the Knicks more flexibility than we've had in years. Other GMs often bid against themselves.

How bright are Mills & Perry to NBA B.Ball? Not bright at all, the two has prove to be 20 win season managers the past 3 seasons.

In the KP trade the Knicks received a star veteran center Andre Jordan from the Mavs to mentor the Knicks rookie star center MitchRob for the next 2 to 4 seasons. Mills & Perry are the only Knicks that didn't notice the quick improvement the rookie MitchRob were making on the court when Andre Jordan joined the Knicks.
When KP joined the Mavs, the owner, manager, and the head-coach pulled out the Red-Carpet treatment for KP to remain a Mavs throughout his NBA career.
When Andre Jordan join the Knicks, the owner, management, and head-coach were drinking 120 proof Vodka playing Candy Crush, while dreaming Keven Durant and Kyrie were gonna sign on to the Knicks in July.
Durant & Kyrie talked Andre Jordan into joining them in BROOKLYN !!!