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BRIGGS wrote:The one thing I’ve realized is we’ve had tremendous failure in free agency. I think dolans strategy through the years is to find gms who will be a “hit” in free agency but it doesn’t work. It is very very hard to find a player at 24 who can do what Woods does. He can play with the top players in the nba toe to toe. He’s versatile long athletic tough. He’s a big time scorer with potential to be 25-10 from the 4-5. Now is that a winning player- not necessarily but it’s all how u fill out any team. We paid Randle 21 mm and I think woods is better

The guy was making probably a mill a year..now give him 22 mill.....fireable offense

BRIGGS wrote:The one thing I’ve realized is we’ve had tremendous failure in free agency. I think dolans strategy through the years is to find gms who will be a “hit” in free agency but it doesn’t work. It is very very hard to find a player at 24 who can do what Woods does. He can play with the top players in the nba toe to toe. He’s versatile long athletic tough. He’s a big time scorer with potential to be 25-10 from the 4-5. Now is that a winning player- not necessarily but it’s all how u fill out any team. We paid Randle 21 mm and I think woods is better

Your not incorrect but there are intangibles. Easy to say based on talent alone but what of Randles contract? Turnover effects? Woods personality? What is his real market value? Guy been in and out floating from team to team for what reason? Then you gonna give him 66 mil? why is he 24 and now just getting his **** together? Randles contract was heavy for reasons but he is a solid kid with good work ethic.
Randle kept his act consistent on a losing team and new found pressure being top 1-2 alpha on a young team with a coaching turmoil. I don’t know what next year brings but Randle was solid teammate, solid interview, and generally handled things well. Sure there was some issues. Look at the teams record!!! Now superimpose Wood in that same situation. i dont know the answer, but I know the questions. IM not the fan throwing out 66mil contracts based on my 5 year fandom of the kid. Kid is talented. What is the rest of his story?

That said, I would only hand out that kind of money if I got some intel about his past teams, behavior, locker room presence, etc... If it's immaturity kind of stuff - I could roll with that... if it's worse/toxic - gotta pass!

Do also agree we shouldn't really compare Randle to him as this season has showns us that while Randle may be our best statistical player and seems like a good guy - he clearly didn't mesh well with how we tried to play (RJ) and would make an great reserve on a better team. We can't make Randle what he isn't - and I think the way he plays (not enough outside threat, too many spin moves to turnovers) is not going to make our team better regardless.

I do think if Woods is mature and emotionally and mentally stable - he could turn into a star and play the way we would need to space our floor. Maybe and incentive based contract? Can we put a behavior/character clause and/or bonuses if the team performs well? If so, I would definitely retain Taj, Bullock and maybe even Ellington. Imagine our defense with Mitch, Woods and a Mo Harkless or even RJ at the 3? Yes, our offense may need a boost but it would be nice to see better rotating, length, hustle, etc...

In that scenario would prefer to trade Randle but if we couldn't and he was our 6th man - we'd suddenly all love Randle again.

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Classic Triple rant on Wood on page 3 of this thread. http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=57915&page=3

I love these:

Body like Tarzan. Mentality like Jane if Jane was a whored out cum guzzling Tinder slut who has crack whore eyes and a really ****ty teeth. And smells bad too. I just added that in for flair. I'm big on flair. Did I mention the crack whore eyes?

We have Mitchell, Randle, Knox up front. I'd keep Bobby Portis long term on the right money. Mo Harkless probably would stay with team friendly money.

We have nothing at the PG spot except question marks.

I'd offer that kind of money and more for Fred VanVleet. He's 26 putting up 17 & 6 as the starting point guard for a play off bound team.

It makes ZERO sense to offer this kind of money to Christian Wood with the giant hole we have in our back court.

Put VanVleet on this roster next year, hope for some development from Robinson, Barrett; hope Randle settles down and has a better role next year; add some talent in the draft; and maybe Frank N turns into a decent player. And that group should be fairly competitive and aiming for the 8th slot in the East.

Add Christian Wood and who is running the offense? Barrett? Randle? Payton, god help us!

Not sure about that price, though...