NYKBocker wrote:Only way that works is if you get an alpha dog type player to put him in his place.

More likely a coach with clout.

Last season in Randle's first yr of available free agency he signed a 2 yr 18mil contract with the Pelicans. Ended up coming off the bench for them for the most part until AD held out. He was a 6th man type for majority of his career in LA prior to that.

This will be where his career ends up heading post Knicks based on how the NBA is shaping up. No matter if he wants to accept it or not imo. If he wants to start then he will need to hit 3s at a higher clip and/or improve defensively. If not he will be a PPS type player off the bench. That's pretty much how teams gauge and value players these days.

BRIGGS wrote:I think Randle can still be part of a good team while still playing 28-32 minutes but like Harrell on the Clippers— maybe it’s would be smartest to deploy him off the bench?

On this particular team he'd be best as a 6th man. He should be replaced in the lineup by a stretch 4, like Gallinari or Bertans.

Its the replace the thing you know vs. the thing you'd like.........but no trade to offer or free agent to ponder. And forget the salary thing.

Lets compare........

Randle career is 16 and 9. This year he is near 20,10 and 3 dimes. KP about the same but 1.7 dimes. No doubt KP is the better shooter. Turnovers, Randle this season 3 vs. 1.8 KP. No doubt handling the ball way more, or way too much. Not the same player, but........

https://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/kristaps_porzingis_vs_julius_randle.htm

......Now Lets pretend he was on Dallas and we got him as part of the trade with KP. Keep an open mind now. Forget MIlls, Janis, and what ever.......Objectively, does it help?
Not saying he is the savior of the trade or anything starphuchedly........
Also, who are we plugging into that Starts over Randle? And like with no salary in this finger typing alternative universe? What make believe scenario can we really just say "Oh, I'd move him to the bench because I have Karl Phuching Malone's secret love child and he said he'd play for free? Oh wait, Christian Wood is having a moment, lets pay him instead and we'll be better? Really?

KP is the better player. KP is playing wit 21 year old Larry Bird. Dallas is a better team then knicks. KP looks better for many reasons and Nalod is the first to say he would not have traded KP. But Nalod is not looking at KP walking away as UFA this season, or playing his leverage and I come out with a worse deal than what we got. I'd like to think we can do better, and kick Mills one more time and lay blame on him.

So I have this bad situation where I HAVE to trade my unicorn, Walk away with 2 first rounders, Dennis Smith who at the moment was a prospect, Get rid of Timmy (debatable but nobody was crying when he left), CLee and we we get a guy that is beasting to 20 and 10 but our biggest compalint is he turns over the ball 3x a game on average vs. 1.6 (this season). Precious.

in football they say you can't demote your starting QB to a back-up; words of wisdom based on the psychology and drama to follow. Right now Randle is our top guy can't push him to the bench -- just like you couldn't push Melo

If we can't find a better way to use him we should get rid of him.

personally i'd like to see him go. nothing personal. but our experience has been consistent with the reports on him that preceded our signing him; he's got a low BB IQ