7 future FRP
Tradable contracts (disgruntled stars?)
Packaging picks + randle/knox/frank/dsj get us somewhere?

Declining Portis option gives us cap space for FA

What REALISTIC moves would you like to see?

BigDaddyG wrote:I think we should trade down this year. The top spots are all question marks. I like Edwards and Ball, but they all huge question marks. I think we can get good value while gaining extra picks. Mills got crap for wanting to trade down last draft, but that is one of the reported moves that came out I could understand. I'm happy with RJ, but would I have been as upset if we landed Herro and Hachimura instead? Just something to consider. I haven't followed Hampton that much, but he looks solid from what I've read. I like Obi but he looks older than Dot lol (He's 21)
Those are guys we could target if we could finagle an extra pick. Haliburton would even look good if we moved back to the mid-lottery range.

We are going to be in the mid lotto range. I'm guessing 6-9 range. Top 5 pick will take a lot of luck. Haliburton might be top 4 when it's all said and done. I think getting Haliburton or Cole Anthony is optimistic where we will be picking. Hampton or a rising 3&D guy like Devin Vassell are options in the 7-10 range. It's a weak draft so getting a quality future starter or 6th man is a win. As far as trading down, i guess it's a possibility if we feel the players are all projected role players anyways. This is a year that might be the case outside of a couple of guys. As for last year's draft, a guy like Herro is excelling in an excellent environment for building a young player, but ultimately is talent doesn't come anywhere close to Barrett if Barrett is developed properly. Herro should end up being a very good player, but Barrett can be a star.

Knixkik wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:I think we should trade down this year. The top spots are all question marks. I like Edwards and Ball, but they all huge question marks. I think we can get good value while gaining extra picks. Mills got crap for wanting to trade down last draft, but that is one of the reported moves that came out I could understand. I'm happy with RJ, but would I have been as upset if we landed Herro and Hachimura instead? Just something to consider. I haven't followed Hampton that much, but he looks solid from what I've read. I like Obi but he looks older than Dot lol (He's 21)
Those are guys we could target if we could finagle an extra pick. Haliburton would even look good if we moved back to the mid-lottery range.

We are going to be in the mid lotto range. I'm guessing 6-9 range. Top 5 pick will take a lot of luck. Haliburton might be top 4 when it's all said and done. I think getting Haliburton or Cole Anthony is optimistic where we will be picking. Hampton or a rising 3&D guy like Devin Vassell are options in the 7-10 range. It's a weak draft so getting a quality future starter or 6th man is a win. As far as trading down, i guess it's a possibility if we feel the players are all projected role players anyways. This is a year that might be the case outside of a couple of guys. As for last year's draft, a guy like Herro is excelling in an excellent environment for building a young player, but ultimately is talent doesn't come anywhere close to Barrett if Barrett is developed properly. Herro should end up being a very good player, but Barrett can be a star.

Can you honestly say what we are going to do..Cause I have no clue.

But you know what they say, OPTIONS is always a good thing, the hard thing is picking the right one.

The Best player in this Draft is probably going to be a sleeper like a PG13, Gannis, type

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:I think we should trade down this year. The top spots are all question marks. I like Edwards and Ball, but they all huge question marks. I think we can get good value while gaining extra picks. Mills got crap for wanting to trade down last draft, but that is one of the reported moves that came out I could understand. I'm happy with RJ, but would I have been as upset if we landed Herro and Hachimura instead? Just something to consider. I haven't followed Hampton that much, but he looks solid from what I've read. I like Obi but he looks older than Dot lol (He's 21)
Those are guys we could target if we could finagle an extra pick. Haliburton would even look good if we moved back to the mid-lottery range.

We are going to be in the mid lotto range. I'm guessing 6-9 range. Top 5 pick will take a lot of luck. Haliburton might be top 4 when it's all said and done. I think getting Haliburton or Cole Anthony is optimistic where we will be picking. Hampton or a rising 3&D guy like Devin Vassell are options in the 7-10 range. It's a weak draft so getting a quality future starter or 6th man is a win. As far as trading down, i guess it's a possibility if we feel the players are all projected role players anyways. This is a year that might be the case outside of a couple of guys. As for last year's draft, a guy like Herro is excelling in an excellent environment for building a young player, but ultimately is talent doesn't come anywhere close to Barrett if Barrett is developed properly. Herro should end up being a very good player, but Barrett can be a star.

After the trade deadline and the various changes, do you really still believe this? I start with the notion that the Knicks just traded their best player.

GSW aren't going anywhere.
CLE just got Drummand, better or worse?
ALT just got Capella and a few others, better worse or same?
TWolves? Can they do any worse?
Knicks? Just lost best player?

Golden State	12-40
Cleveland	13-39
Atlanta 	14-38
Minnesota	15-35
New York	16-36
Charlotte	16-35
Washington	17-32

Maybe, maybe not. But Randle and Payton are catching their stride and we have a light schedule coming up. Plus I don’t think the Knicks will go full youth mode like other teams. They will continue to fight for wins until the end.

Has a little Embid/Anthony Davis in his game (NO, I'm Not Saying He Will Be As Good As Them!!!!!)

CrushAlot wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:With a Interim Coach, A lame duck GM, no official President of Basketball operations, a weird ass owner, a roster full of tradable contracts, expiring contracts and a treasure chest full of Draft picks.

Can you honestly say what we are going to do..Cause I have no clue.

But you know what they say, OPTIONS is always a good thing, the hard thing is picking the right one.

The Best player in this Draft is probably going to be a sleeper like a PG13, Gannis, type

Yeah, Perry can do nothing at this point. He's waiting just like everyone else. This goes back to the issue of the timing of the Rose announcement or the need to pick anybody now at all.

A few articles out connecting Perry to World Wide Wes. Does he get to keep his job? Rose will need some experienced basketball people to rely on. Also what happens to Herb Houston?

We’ll get lots of names thrown out and Perry might stick. Some assistants are being mentioned and some retreads. I’d think rose has strong opinions about some people given the nature of his job the last 20 years.
For all we know he might have taken the job on the condition he partner up with someone specific.
Wes Williams is just rumored to be coming but under what title? The man of mystery. He might be more influential as a non employee given his seemingly best talent is “influence”. Gotta watch that tampering rules! From what I have read Wes advocates patience. Tells players not to spend Nickels but wait for dimes. Something like that. Yet its Dolan who has no patience. First stop need to be “respectable street” but not as a destination but as part of the process.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Uptown wrote:Wiseman has a chance to be a stud. If he's avalbale when we pick, you take him. He's 7'1 lefty, runs the floor like a SF, has range out to 17 feet and can score in the post....The best part about his game is he plays both sides of the ball. You need 2-way players if you are going to be successful in this league.

Has a little Embid/Anthony Davis in his game (NO, I'm Not Saying He Will Be As Good As Them!!!!!)

Wiseman has range out to 17 feet, but that doesn't mean he makes them. He runs the floor hard, but I wouldn't say he runs better than Mitch. Plus his defense awareness and ability to guard the perimeter is said to be worse than Mitch's. I don't see a stud. I see a guy who's not better than Mitch.

While you are reading about him, I've watched him play. He is better player than Mitch on both sides of the ball. Mitch might be a light better shot blocker but thats it. Wiseman is more advanced than Mitch on the offensive end and his court awareness is much better. He makes his fair share, but the difference is he takes them, while Mitch wont even square up to the rim if he's 10 feet away.

Wiseman is still raw, just like Mitch, but like I said he's further along. If he's there when we pick, it will be hard to pass him up just for the simple fact that will be a valuable asset and will give us tremendous flexibility in terms of moving him or Mitch and just seeing if they can develop together. Or, we might be able to trade Wiseman for a pick later on in the lotto and a player. Plenty of options with him.

Uptown wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Uptown wrote:Wiseman has a chance to be a stud. If he's avalbale when we pick, you take him. He's 7'1 lefty, runs the floor like a SF, has range out to 17 feet and can score in the post....The best part about his game is he plays both sides of the ball. You need 2-way players if you are going to be successful in this league.

Has a little Embid/Anthony Davis in his game (NO, I'm Not Saying He Will Be As Good As Them!!!!!)

Wiseman has range out to 17 feet, but that doesn't mean he makes them. He runs the floor hard, but I wouldn't say he runs better than Mitch. Plus his defense awareness and ability to guard the perimeter is said to be worse than Mitch's. I don't see a stud. I see a guy who's not better than Mitch.

While you are reading about him, I've watched him play. He is better player than Mitch on both sides of the ball. Mitch might be a light better shot blocker but thats it. Wiseman is more advanced than Mitch on the offensive end and his court awareness is much better. He makes his fair share, but the difference is he takes them, while Mitch wont even square up to the rim if he's 10 feet away.

Wiseman is still raw, just like Mitch, but like I said he's further along. If he's there when we pick, it will be hard to pass him up just for the simple fact that will be a valuable asset and will give us tremendous flexibility in terms of moving him or Mitch and just seeing if they can develop together. Or, we might be able to trade Wiseman for a pick later on in the lotto and a player. Plenty of options with him.